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AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

American said:
So lots of people have ghostwriters, that in no way proves they were literary lemmings to the ghostwriter.
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Sir, I AM a ghostwriter. It's what I do for a living. :doh

Here's how it works: the person who cannot write gives general information, some quotes, and a few interesting anecdotes to the writer, who then does research and crafts the non-writer's ideas into coherent sentences / paragraphs / chapters. The non-writer then reviews the draft, making occasional edits to tone or intent. There is, in fact, little to no actual writing done by the "author" in such cases - it's 99% ghostwriter.

You said that Palin was a good writer; the simple fact is, she didn't write the book.


American said:
I don't suppose Glenda would like to acknowledge Hillary and Bill Clinton's use of ghostwriters?
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How the hell did the Clintons get into this? :confused:
 
j-mac said:
how so?


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It's pretty dull and actually kinda whiny. I don't know what I was expecting but...some attention to her political stances or what. It seems to take a blaming tone and much more combative than I thought it needed to be.
 
j-mac said:
Kind of like Bill Ayers writing Dreams for Obama isn't it? that doesn't seem to bother you much. Correct?
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This is the first time I've heard the claim that Bill Ayers ghostwrote Obama's book Dreams From My Father. Do you have any legitimate documentation to prove this?

Regardless, no, I'm not remotely bothered by anyone using a ghostwriter. If people didn't, I'd be in a world of hurt.

j-mac said:
do you have numbers showing that is how this book was so successful?
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Nope, not now. The latest NYT Political Best Sellers list (which includes information about bulk sales) doesn't currently include Going Rogue. Can you prove bulk sales are NOT jacking up the total sales?

Dr_Patrick said:
Once the price goes down I'll probably get it and read it.
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No need to spend $28.99, or to wait. As of November 16, Walmart.com was selling the book for $8.98, Target.com was selling it for $8.99, and Amazon was selling it for $9.You can also pick up the book for $4.97 at Newsmax.com.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
Yeah, we get it. You like Sarah Palin. It's also obvious by now that anything said that doesn't involve praise of the woman, you will take as a personal attack or insult. I know it's hard for you to get around using regurgitated talking points, but please try.
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You say that when the liberal media show they are obsessed with bashing her?
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Grim17 said:
That's a helluva start for a woman that is claimed to be "irrelevant" and a "Train wreck" by those on the left.
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I'm glad we're having celebrity discussion on a Political debate forum.
 
Grim17 said:
That's a helluva start for a woman that is claimed to be "irrelevant" and a "Train wreck" by those on the left.
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I saw it being sold online today for $4.95; unheard of for a brand new paperback, let alone a hardback.
 
Anybody ever thought that she might have written this book simply to try to get her message out, not to try to make a zillion bucks on it's sales? Not ever politician is money hungry ya know.
 
1069 said:
I saw it being sold online today for $4.95; unheard of for a brand new paperback, let alone a hardback.
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[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Going-Rogue-American-Sarah-Palin/dp/0061939897/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259125180&sr=8-1]Amazon.com: Going Rogue: An American Life (9780061939891): Sarah Palin: Books[/ame]

Amazon is selling it for $14.50, but the list price is $28.99.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Anybody ever thought that she might have written this book simply to try to get her message out, not to try to make a zillion bucks on it's sales? Not ever politician is money hungry ya know.
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Please.....you really believe that. :doh
 
Palin is now so news worthy that the Righties see the need to start reams of threads about her....Their last distraction...Teehee.

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1069 said:
I saw it being sold online today for $4.95; unheard of for a brand new paperback, let alone a hardback.
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Got a link to the site selling it that cheap?

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You guys at all the forums give her more publicity than all the road shows.
 
American said:
Strawman.
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Why do you keep stating this? Do you know what a strawman is? Please tell me you do because you keep throwing it out like you know what it is.

300,000,000 is merely the use of an unrealistic inflated number. That assumes that even infants could buy it, and a copy for each person in a family that might share a book. Totally ridiculous. Your point is irrelevant anyway, if it becomes a best seller it will be as relevant as any other best seller.
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Thank you for supporting my point and ignoring the crux of the argument while you're busy trying to act like you know what a straw man is. How many best sellers could you name? A few dozen maybe? Out of how many thousands? Best seller is merely a term used by book dealers to determine popular books from others which aren't. Popularity and relevancy are not the same thing and you establish this by saying 'it'll be as relevant as any other best seller'.

There are thousands of best selling books in EVERY genre from cooking to science fiction. These books have been bought by thousands and their popularity is unquestionable, the fact that they have been bought by droves does not establish any kind of relevancy. It establishes popularity.

Now to explain to you what a straw man is. I brought up the 300,000,000 figure in a related example(see Ralph Nader). I never stated that 300,000,000 people needed to buy Palin's book for it to become relevant. What I stated was that popularity does not equal to relevancy specially in a world where 'best sellers' number in the thousands and are subjectively defined by each independent dealer. Hopefully this explains to you what a straw man is.
 
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Hatuey said:
Why do you keep stating this? Do you know what a strawman is? Please tell me you do because you keep throwing it out like you know what it is.



Thank you for supporting my point and ignoring the crux of the argument while you're busy trying to act like you know what a straw man is. How many best sellers could you name? A few dozen maybe? Out of how many thousands? Best seller is merely a term used by book dealers to determine popular books from others which aren't. Popularity and relevancy are not the same thing and you establish this by saying 'it'll be as relevant as any other best seller'.

There are thousands of best selling books in EVERY genre from cooking to science fiction. These books have been bought by thousands and their popularity is unquestionable, the fact that they have been bought by droves does not establish any kind of relevancy. It establishes popularity.

Now to explain to you what a straw man is. I brought up the 300,000,000 figure in a related example(see Ralph Nader). I never stated that 300,000,000 people needed to buy Palin's book for it to become relevant. What I stated was that popularity does not equal to relevancy specially in a world where 'best sellers' number in the thousands and are subjectively defined by each independent dealer. Hopefully this explains to you what a straw man is.
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You know young hatuey, you want to make some bull**** argument about Palin's book. Grow ****ing up, nobody gives a **** about your point...and there isn't one anyway. I'm done here.
 
ptif219 said:
You say that when the liberal media show they are obsessed with bashing her?
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It's not just the "Liberal media". There are plenty of Conservatives who can't stand the woman. What is your point?
 
Dr_Patrick said:
It's not just the "Liberal media". There are plenty of Conservatives who can't stand the woman. What is your point?
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Name them all, remember we have 300,000,000 citizens according to Hatuey, so the few you list will mean nothing.
 
American said:
Name them all, remember we have 300,000,000 citizens according to Hatuey, so the few you list will mean nothing.
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My only point is that many Palin supporters are trying to paint the Palin haters as Liberals only, which I think is quite disingenuous.
 
I think if this thread reaches 10 pages I'm going to puke.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
My only point is that many Palin supporters are trying to paint the Palin haters as Liberals only, which I think is quite disingenuous.
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I think it's mostly accurate, there aren't that many that hate her on the right. She's the only thing that kept the McCain campaign from being a bigger failure than it was.

Come on Page 10!!!!
 
American said:
I think it's mostly accurate, there aren't that many that hate her on the right. She's the only thing that kept the McCain campaign from being a bigger failure than it was.

Come on Page 10!!!!
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I disagree. I think she ended up hurting McCain more than anything. Or rather, McCain hurt himself by choosing her as a running mate. All of the criticisms directed at her, legitimate or not, ended up hurting McCain's chances.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I disagree. I think she ended up hurting McCain more than anything. Or rather, McCain hurt himself by choosing her as a running mate. All of the criticisms directed at her, legitimate or not, ended up hurting McCain's chances.
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In looking at the difference in her behavior during the presidential race and her governorship in Alaska, I can only think the McCain campaign had a hand in ruining her career, too.

That was NOT the Sarah Palin I voted for as governor.
 
American said:
You know young hatuey, you want to make some bull**** argument about Palin's book. Grow ****ing up, nobody gives a **** about your point...and there isn't one anyway. I'm done here.
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I accept your choice to quit the way Alaskan voters accepted Palin's choice to quit.
 
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