• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Work Site Arrests of Illegals Fall

The Prof

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 26, 2009
Messages
12,828
Reaction score
1,808
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
1. Work site arrests of illegals have dropped precipitously since the Apologist became president.

2. More than a 50% decline.

3. Usually, such a report would play POLITICALLY across SOCIAL lines---crime, welfare, race, borders, ethnicity, language, education...

4. These days, though, all these thorny themes become but a thumbnail compared to the only real concern on middle Americans' minds---JOBS.

5. As in---THAT ILLEGAL ALIEN TOOK MY JOB.

6. On the other hand, Obama has upped audits of EMPLOYERS by 300%.

7. In other words, from the Apologist's pinkish perspective, this potential problem is no predicament, it's a source of REVENUE.

8. Firms hit with fines for hiring Fidel are not gonna fire him in favor of folks who earn a fair wage.

9. No, Chili's and Applebee's are only gonna see Obama's I9 as just another cost of doing business, merely one more government intrusion.

10. There are so many.

11. As usual, the administration's answer to this issue is all ideology and all wrong.

12. "These statistics reflect a myopic, outdated and distorted view of effective enforcement," says Homeland Security, contending versus NUMBERS.

13. Characteristically, when asked a careful question, the administration attacks.

14. "Myopic, outdated and distorted" is hardly the measured determination most Americans welcome.

15. Obama is an extremist.

16. He likes illegals more than unemployed citizens.

17. Also greatly reduced under Obama are CRIMINAL arrests of illegals, a 60% decline from 2008 to 09.

18. Once again, Obama is on the EXTREME wrong end of America's political spectrum.

19. Don't forget what happened to Bush and McCain when they attempted AMNESTY in the summer of 2007, the phone lines crashed.

20. And that was a time far more amenable to the movement than our contemporary slump.

Arrests of illegal immigrant workers have dropped precipitously under President Obama, according to figures released Wednesday.

Criminal arrests, administrative arrests, indictments and convictions of illegal immigrants at work sites all fell by more than 50 percent from fiscal 2008 to fiscal 2009.

The figures show that Mr. Obama has made good on his pledge to shift enforcement away from going after illegal immigrant workers themselves - but at the expense of Americans' jobs, said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the Republican who compiled the numbers from the Department of Homeland Security's U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE).

Mr. Smith, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said a period of economic turmoil is the wrong time to be cutting enforcement and letting illegal immigrants take jobs that Americans otherwise would hold.

"Those stolen jobs should be returned to out-of-work citizens and legal immigrants," he said. "The Obama administration should put citizens and legal immigrants first, especially when it comes to jobs."

One area where the Obama administration has made progress was in audits of businesses' I-9 forms, which jumped 300 percent. Those audits could produce fines in the future, but Republicans said that most businesses consider them a cost of doing business, not a deterrent.

The numbers were released just days after Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the administration has made such advances on border security that Congress should now work on legalizing illegal immigrants.

"These statistics reflect a myopic, outdated and distorted view of effective enforcement," said Homeland Security spokesman Matt Chandler. "Just a week ago, we highlighted the more than 11,000 murderers, rapists and kidnappers identified in our jails by the Secure Communities program in the last year, nearly 2,000 of which have already been deported. ICE has prioritized its enforcement efforts by focusing on hardened criminals and employers who knowingly hire illegal workers and break the law."

According to the newly released figures, administrative arrests of violators of immigration laws fell 68 percent from 2008 to 2009, criminal arrests fell 60 percent, criminal indictments fell 58 percent and convictions fell 63 percent.

Fiscal 2008 ran from Oct. 1, 2007, through Sept. 30, 2008. Fiscal 2009 began Oct. 1, 2008, and ran through Sept. 30 of this year. Mr. Obama took office Jan. 20.

The Obama administration has promised to pursue a new legalization program next year. It would create a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who commit to steps such as paying back taxes and waiting a set period of years.

In a speech last week, Ms. Napolitano said they have made enough progress on border security and immigration enforcement that Congress can now turn its attention to legalization.

But Republicans said her speech was premature. They pointed to uncertainties about the numbers and that with hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants still being apprehended on the borders, the flow has not been controlled.

They also argue that legalizing illegal immigrants in the middle of a recession is unfair to Americans looking for jobs.

Work site arrests of illegals fall dramatically - Washington Times


The Prof
 
Last edited:
1. Work site arrests of illegals have dropped precipitously since the Apologist became president.

Hey, bright boy, try to squeeze these numbers through your head:

1) New construction has fallen off.

2) There are not as many jobs.

3) There are less work sites hiring illegals.

4) +Employers are less likely to hire illegals in the current Dobbs anti-immigration climate.

4a) CA state tax crackdowns on under-the-table wages. (I-9 forms)

5) Less illegals working these jobs.

6) Less arrests.

7) Go out and take a basic economics class.

9) Come back when you're ready to talk with the adults.

10) Hasta la vista, chico.
 
1. Work site arrests of illegals have dropped precipitously since the Apologist became president.

McCain would have been no different than Obama in regard to illegal immigration. McCain is just as much of a pro-criminal(illegal immigration is a criminal offense ) scumbag as Obama.
 
1) New construction has fallen off.

2) There are not as many jobs.

3) There are less work sites hiring illegals.

riza en voz alta!

mi amigo, who doesn't know the difference between "there" and "their," is getting pissy

otra vez

why are I9's up 300%, pensador profundo?

why are criminal arrests down 60%?

demasiado facil

REVA!
 
riza en voz alta!

mi amigo, who doesn't know the difference between "there" and "their," is getting pissy

otra vez

why are I9's up 300%, pensador profundo?

why are criminal arrests down 60%?

demasiado facil

REVA!


Risa En Voz Alta ''

LOL :2wave:
 
I am sorry to report that in 1986 I reported on the Amnesty Bill President Reagan backed and it contained fines and stiff penalties for employing illegal aliens and to this day those laws have scarcely been enforced even during Reagan's term.
The some sectors of the construction industry have been all but taken over by illegal aliens.
Obama has ignored the the border issues and the fact that thousands of Middle Easterners have crossed under Bushes watch and now his. Janet Napolitano loves illegals and was on Sheriff Joe Arpaio's case from the time he started enforcing the law.

'Arab terrorists'<br>crossing border
This is from 2001 and it is getting worse all the time.

Border Patrol spokesperson Rene Noriega stated that the number of other-than-Mexican detentions has grown by 42 percent. Most of the non-Mexican migrants are from El Salvador and other parts of Central America, she said, but added that agents have picked up people from all over the world, including the former Soviet Union, Asia and the Middle East.
 
I am sorry to report that in 1986 I reported on the Amnesty Bill President Reagan backed and it contained fines and stiff penalties for employing illegal aliens and to this day those laws have scarcely been enforced even during Reagan's term.
The some sectors of the construction industry have been all but taken over by illegal aliens.
Obama has ignored the the border issues and the fact that thousands of Middle Easterners have crossed under Bushes watch and now his. Janet Napolitano loves illegals and was on Sheriff Joe Arpaio's case from the time he started enforcing the law.

'Arab terrorists'<br>crossing border
This is from 2001 and it is getting worse all the time.

I can't understand why this is even an issue....
Enforce the law, if someone is here illegally, kick them out....
Enforce the law on employers as well.....
It's a shame that we are being over-run & all Napolitano can do is pay lip service........
Set up machine gun nests every 300 yards or so on the border & have them manned by volunteers, to show our amigos el salida.....
I'll wager they will never go unmanned.....;)
In fact, I'd go one step further & say that you could charge a fee for the priviledge.....;)
 
Back
Top Bottom