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Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

abc: RealClearPolitics - Video - ABC News: Stimulus Jobs "Created" In Districts That Don't Exist

washington examiner, wall street journal, sacbee, boston globe, nyt, ap, usa today, las vegas sun, detroit free press, ny post, milwaukee journal sentinel, chi trib, atlanta jc: 76,757 Bogus jobs 'created or saved' by the Stimulus (and counting) | Washington Examiner

abc, BEFORE arizona86: Scrutiny Over Obama Stimulus Jobs Mounting - ABC News

cbs, in OCTOBER: Breitbart.tv Report: Number of Jobs Created or Saved Because of Stimulus Exaggerated

the ex, nov 3: OVN

boston, nov 11: Stimulus fund job benefits exaggerated, review finds - The Boston Globe

ap, oct 29: My Way News - Stimulus jobs overstated by thousands

ap, oct 22, christina romer says the stimulus has already shot its wad: The Associated Press: Romer: Impact of stimulus will level off

st petersburg times: $2.3 million in federal stimulus money is going to pay for Tampa Bay area beauty school tuition - St. Petersburg Times

cnn: 30,383: First stimulus jobs numbers unveiled - Oct. 15, 2009

i could go on, it's too easy

everyone knows
 
Caine said:
OMFG!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought this was about ghost districts and money and all that good ****.

WTF is this **** about Clinton?

enough already!
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Comon Caine, ghost district's was boring i had to derail this into something we could sink our teeth into.:mrgreen:
 
bored---LOL!

if you're not entertained in the moment maybe you should watch the godfather

in the meantime, david obey's NOT bored

nor is omb

nor abc, the nyt, usa today, the globe, cnn, the wsj, the atlanta jc...
 
Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

A non-story. People have been putting the wrong congressional district numbers on the reports. Wow, big scandal.
 
Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

misterman said:
A non-story. People have been putting the wrong congressional district numbers on the reports. Wow, big scandal.
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You would be right, except that the wrong district numbers don't even exist and those non-existant districts are receiving billions of tax payer dollars. We were promised that the stealfromus bill would be the miracle that we need during this recession. This is how they manage it?

yes, it's a big deal.
 
Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

apdst said:
You would be right, except that the wrong district numbers don't even exist
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Right. That's the mistake. People don't know what the districts are. Perhaps they are using state legislative districts instead of federal.

and those non-existant districts are receiving billions of tax payer dollars.
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Sigh.

No, non-existent districts aren't getting any tax money. They don't exist. The money is going to an existing district - it's just not marked right on the forms.

It's just people putting the wrong numbers on a form. That's it.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Making up congressional districts and fake saved jobs?

How is that anything but a lie?
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Because they weren't made up? The jobs exist, they were just allocated to the incorrect, and sometimes non-existent districts, through reporting error. They failed to have a QA process to make sure the district numbers entered aligned with exiting districts.

It was a failure in report processing.
 
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Gibberish said:
Because they weren't made up?
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Yes yes "jobs saved" :roll: Good way to whitewash over record unemployment.

The jobs exist, they were just allocated to the incorrect, and sometimes non-existent districts, through reporting error.
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Prove it.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Yes yes "jobs saved" :roll: Good way to whitewash over record unemployment.

Prove it.
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I'm not trying to whitewash over unemployement records. I'm merely pointing out that this is incompetency in reporting and not a malicious act.

We'll just have to wait and see what the watch dog groups find when the reporting is fixed.

I haven't looked hard but ABC found that that the $34 million spent in Arizona's non-existent 86th district was actually spent in the existent 1st district. The receipts were wrongly inputted to 86 instead of 1.

Jobs Saved or Created in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist - ABC News

"The burden of reporting information lies on the stimulus recipients and if they submit incorrect forms there is no penalty, said Mr. Pound. “The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act set forth all the reporting requirements, but is silent as to penalties to enforce the reporting requirements,” he said. Fraudulent forms could be punished as a crime, but there is no mechanism to deter recipients from submitting inaccurate information through human error."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/webl...erygov-shows-money-flowing-to-nonexistent-di/

As I have said before, it was failure in reporting and process. Whomever built the collection and QA process that recovery.gov follows should be fired.
 
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Gibberish said:
I'm not trying to whitewash over unemployement records. I'm merely pointing out that this is incompetency in reporting and not a malicious act.

We'll just have to wait and see what the watch dog groups find when the reporting is fixed.

I haven't looked hard but ABC found that that the $34 million spent in Arizona's non-existent 86th district was actually spent in the existent 1st district. The receipts were wrongly inputted to 86 instead of 1.

Jobs Saved or Created in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist - ABC News

"The burden of reporting information lies on the stimulus recipients and if they submit incorrect forms there is no penalty, said Mr. Pound. “The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act set forth all the reporting requirements, but is silent as to penalties to enforce the reporting requirements,” he said. Fraudulent forms could be punished as a crime, but there is no mechanism to deter recipients from submitting inaccurate information through human error."
Recovery.gov shows money flowing to nonexistent districts - The Back Story - Washington Times

As I have said before, it was failure in reporting and process. Whomever built the collection and QA process that recovery.gov follows should be fired.
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As you just stated. There is no incentive to report the numbers correctly anyway so why would they? So now which is it? Is the administration malicious or just plain incompetent?
 
Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

misterman said:
A non-story. People have been putting the wrong congressional district numbers on the reports. Wow, big scandal.
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abc, cbs, cnn, the ny times, usa today, the chicago trib, the washington examiner, the wall street journal, the sacbee, the globe, the las vegas sun, the detroit free press, the ny post, the milwaukee journal sentinel, the atlanta journal constitution, the associated press, and many more all disagree with you

to each of these mostly msm outlets, the story is all about the white house MISREPRESENTING the number and types of jobs supposedly created and saved by the stimulus

every news outlet listed above and many others have published repeated articles calling into question the veracity of the admin concerning stimulus jobs

i'm surprised you haven't heard

ask david obey, chair of house oversight

he says the situation is "ludicrous" and "outrageous"

he pushed hard for this phony stimulus, he's very responsible for its passage

he feels his progressive butt is on the line

he's right
 
akyron said:
As you just stated. There is no incentive to report the numbers correctly anyway so why would they? So now which is it? Is the administration malicious or just plain incompetent?
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I haven't seen any evidence to support that these numbers were deliberately altered so I lean on incompetent. In response to all this the process architect for recovery.gov should be fired.
 
Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

misterman said:
Right. That's the mistake. People don't know what the districts are. Perhaps they are using state legislative districts instead of federal.



Sigh.

No, non-existent districts aren't getting any tax money. They don't exist. The money is going to an existing district - it's just not marked right on the forms.

It's just people putting the wrong numbers on a form. That's it.
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It's one of those $5,000 hammer/$10,000 toilet seat things...
 
Agent Ferris said:
Making up congressional districts and fake saved jobs?

How is that anything but a lie?
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Not a lie, a simple clerical error.

Get real.

Why would they lie? It's easily-noticed information, on a public website.
 
EpicDude86 said:
Because they can, and no one of any importance or consequence will do anything to stop them.
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Then they wouldn't even bother lying or trying to hide it, would they? They'd just do it.

Don't act like a paranoid teabagging lunatic and turn a simple clerical error into a massive conspiracy. You demean yourself.
 
misterman said:
Then they wouldn't even bother lying or trying to hide it, would they? They'd just do it.

Don't act like a paranoid teabagging lunatic and turn a simple clerical error into a massive conspiracy. You demean yourself.
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You must not have seen the thread about how many criminals there are in Congress...
 
misterman said:
Uh, yeah, okay.
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After researching public records, newspaper articles, civil court transcripts, and criminal records, Capitol Hill Blue discovered that:


* 29 members of Congress have been accused of spousal abuse.

* 7 have been arrested for fraud.

* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks.

* 117 have bankrupted at least two businesses.

* 3 have been arrested for assault.

* 71 have credit reports so bad they can't qualify for a
credit card.

* 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges.

* 8 have been arrested for shoplifting.

* 21 are current defendants in lawsuits.

* And in 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving, but released after they claimed Congressional immunity.


Double check these though. I'm still trying to find out if Capitol Hill Blue has any political bias.
 
donc said:
Even your fav source..WiKi will say the numbers went down the last two years of the Clinton administration …unless I go in and change them of course, which anyone can. :roll:

Clinton vetoed 17 bills only two were overridden, plus you had the shut down of the government in 1995 instigated by that stellar winger, Newt Gingrich. Who in his wisdom, told a room full of reporters that he “forced the shutdown because Clinton had rudely made him and Bob Dole sit at the back of Air Force One.” :2wave:

Newt was a damn fool to say such s***, that shutdown, is what cost Bob Dole and the Republicans the presidential election in 1996.
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Links Please
 
misterman said:
Not a lie, a simple clerical error.

Get real.

Why would they lie? It's easily-noticed information, on a public website.
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18 million for the website and still they lie about the money.
 
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