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Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

So I take it you approve of these fake congressional districts.


Nah, bored, I do enjoy seeing conservative circle jerks. Especially when they get all bent up with faux fiscal responsibility after turning a blind eye for eight years of the previous administration.So continue with the circle jerk.Enjoy ;)
 
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I guess the change was just a change in faces and names, the M.O.s remain the same.
 
This is a great strategy to lock up future congressional districts that don't yet exist. Brilliant strategy if you ask me. 20 years from now, the Democrats can campaign in these yet to be determined districts and talk about how they brought jobs to those areas even before those areas had job problems. Talk about showing your foresight as a political party. Progressives indeed.
 
This is a great strategy to lock up future congressional districts that don't yet exist. Brilliant strategy if you ask me. 20 years from now, the Democrats can campaign in these yet to be determined districts and talk about how they brought jobs to those areas even before those areas had job problems. Talk about showing your foresight as a political party. Progressives indeed.

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This really is hilarious. This thread is completely devoid of any Obama apologists. No way to defend him on this one.
 
As I was posting this article on another site, I saw that this website cost $18 million to create. So even if this is just an error on the website, it sure is a waste of $18 million.
 
This really is hilarious. This thread is completely devoid of any Obama apologists. No way to defend him on this one.

Exactly. I don't know why anyone is surprised a Chicago politician makes up districts.

Liberals there had dead people voting in the thousands.
 
Where is the corruption? I haven't seen anything to suggest the receipts were deliberately labeled incorrectly or that, if the receipts were submitted correct, the data was deliberately inputted incorrectly.

Sir,

I think you're missing the point. The Administration's claims to have saved jobs appears to normal people to be a fantasy based on artificial intellectual constructs. But then Obama is so incompetent in telling the story of this artificial intellectual constructs that his errors are easily discovered and explained. He's caught in clear incompetence. This is what exposes him to ridicule. For a politician ridicule is the worst thing in the world.
 
I'm looking at how the money is spent state by state per district, and it's an absolute mess. You see 99th and 00th district all over the place. $18 million and the site can't even track the money correctly. Forget about all of the bells and whistles, it can't even get it's information anywhere close to being right!
 
It is a non-issue if you don't care Obama lies. It is a non-issue if you don't care the dems are not being transparent as they promised. It is an issue to those of us that don't want the government controlling us and lying to us.

Hyperbole.

Please show any proof that Obama is lying here. They are obviously attempting to be transparent by listing how every dollar is spent and allow for inaccuracies like this to be found. Not being transparent would mean that such reporting wouldn't be available.
 
Hyperbole.

Please show any proof that Obama is lying here. They are obviously attempting to be transparent by listing how every dollar is spent and allow for inaccuracies like this to be found. Not being transparent would mean that such reporting wouldn't be available.

Obama has said repeatedly, that there have been hundreds of thousands of jobs created, or saved by the stealfromus bill. That's an obvious lie.
 
Sir,

I think you're missing the point. The Administration's claims to have saved jobs appears to normal people to be a fantasy based on artificial intellectual constructs. But then Obama is so incompetent in telling the story of this artificial intellectual constructs that his errors are easily discovered and explained. He's caught in clear incompetence. This is what exposes him to ridicule. For a politician ridicule is the worst thing in the world.

I'm not arguing that. This clearly shows incompetence on the governments part. It doesn't however show that the numbers were skewed deliberately as many on here are suggesting.
 
Obama has said repeatedly, that there have been hundreds of thousands of jobs created, or saved by the stealfromus bill. That's an obvious lie.

Thanks to the transparency provided in the availability of these reports it is shown that the data he used in making those statements are inaccurate and appear to be fixable to pull accurate data.

You of all people should know you can't blame the President for making decisions or statements based on the faulty Intel he is given. :doh
 
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Obama has said repeatedly, that there have been hundreds of thousands of jobs created, or saved by the stealfromus bill. That's an obvious lie.

How is it a lie, when the stimulus is an ongoing operation?Only about 10% of the stimulus money has been spent so far.
 
Thanks to the transparency provided in the availability of these reports it is shown that the data he used in making those statements are inaccurate.

I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how this is such a great move on PBO's part...:rofl

PBO apologists beat all I ever seen...:rofl

Basically what you're saying is, "yeah, we know he's dicked up, but we know he's dicked up and that's what matters".
 
How is it a lie, when the stimulus is an ongoing operation?Only about 10% of the stimulus money has been spent so far.

It's a lie, because PBO is claiming that hundreds of thousands of job have already been saved by the stealfromus money that has already been spent.

PBO's own recovery chief says that those numbers can't be verified, yet PBO has touted them as accurate for several weeks now. Now, either PBO is lieing, or he's just stupid.

Recovery Board Chairman: We Can?t Certify Jobs Data at Recovery.gov - The Note
 
I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how this is such a great move on PBO's part...:rofl

PBO apologists beat all I ever seen...:rofl

Basically what you're saying is, "yeah, we know he's dicked up, but we know he's dicked up and that's what matters".

Obviously you aren't reading my posts. I have stated there is clear incompetency displayed here.

What you are FAILING to do is provide evidence that supports that this mistake was deliberate and malicious and NOT just incompetency.
 
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It's a lie, because PBO is claiming that hundreds of thousands of job have already been saved by the stealfromus money that has already been spent.

PBO's own recovery chief says that those numbers can't be verified, yet PBO has touted them as accurate for several weeks now. Now, either PBO is lieing, or he's just stupid.

Recovery Board Chairman: We Can?t Certify Jobs Data at Recovery.gov - The Note

He's obviously taking optimistic numbers, in the hopes they are 100% accurate, and touting them out to the populace in hopes of improving his numbers.

That's not lying, that's incompetency and political BS. He thought the numbers were accurate at the time.
 
Obviously you aren't reading my posts. I have stated there is clear incompetency displayed here.

What you are FAILING to do is provide evidence that supports that this mistake was deliberate and malicious and NOT just incompetency.

So, that's your excuse for PBO? Stupidity?
 
So, that's your excuse for PBO? Stupidity?

He saw positive numbers and wanted to get them into the public as fast as possible to help boost support, morale, whatever. He made the assumption the reporting process was accurate and took the chance in presenting numbers not 100% verified. It happens all the time in business. It's a gamble and in this scenario it backfired on him.

It definitely was a stupid move on his part. He should have waited and had the numbers double checked before he opened his mouth. But that's the gamble he choose to take.

I've seen this same type of optimism kill people's careers. Obama seems to be going that way too.
 
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He saw positive numbers and wanted to get them into the public as fast as possible to help boost support, morale, whatever. He made the assumption the reporting process was accurate and took the chance in presenting numbers not 100% verified. It happens all the time in business. It's a gamble and in this scenario it backfired on him.

It definitely was a stupid move on his part. He should have waited and had the numbers double checked before he opened his mouth. But that's the gamble he choose to take.

I've seen this same type of optimism kill people's careers. Obama seems to be going that way too.


So, I'm right; stupidity is your defense? Glad we got that cleared up.

So, it's better to be stupid than to knowingly lie? You won't have a problem selling that defense with this krewe.
 
Hyperbole.

Please show any proof that Obama is lying here. They are obviously attempting to be transparent by listing how every dollar is spent and allow for inaccuracies like this to be found. Not being transparent would mean that such reporting wouldn't be available.

It is not transparent it is getting caught
 
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