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New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

Catawba said:
But that is the thing, we are not. According to the Rand Report to the Pentagon, the war on terror has been a failure. As I mentioned before, killing innocent civilians does nothing for decreasing the recruitment effort of the enemy.
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How about posting where it said that my left wing friend?
 
support the troops? then we are going to need a tax hike on the rich to pay for all the disabled vets who will be coming back from afghanistan.
 
Catawba said:
Yeah I've seen the cowboy approach. They kill 3,000 civilians and we kill 100,000 civilians, we'll show them huh? And that allows them to recruit more terrorists than they had before our 8 years of "war on terror!"

Good plan!;)
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That is pure horse****.......Our troops go out of their way to protect civilian life to a point that they risk their own lives........Why do you lefties hate our military.....I will never understand that.............
 
murtha and kerry are decorated war heroes. what are you?

we SAY we don't target civilians.
 
Navy Pride said:
How about posting where it said that my left wing friend?
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Certainly, my right wing friend -


"The Rand Corporation, a conservative think-tank originally started by the U.S. Air Force, has produced a new report entitled, "How Terrorist Groups End - Lessons for Countering al Qaida." This study is important, for it reaches conclusions which may be surprising to the Bush Administration and to both presidential candidates. To wit, the study concludes that the "war on terrorism" has been a failure, and that the efforts against terrorism should not be characterized as a "war" at all."

"Rand concludes, after studying 648 terrorist groups between 1968 and 2006, that military operations against such groups are among the least effective means of success, achieving the desired effect in only 7% of the cases. As Rand explains, "[a]gainst most terrorist groups . . . military force is usually too blunt an instrument." Moreover, "[t]he use of substantial U.S. military power against terror groups also runs a significant risk of turning the local population against the government by killing civilians."
Dan Kovalik: Rand Corp -- War On Terrorism Is A Failure
 
very good, catawba. that's how it should be done.

richard clarke says the war in iraq destroyed the war on terror.
 
Catawba said:
Certainly, my right wing friend -


"The Rand Corporation, a conservative think-tank originally started by the U.S. Air Force, has produced a new report entitled, "How Terrorist Groups End - Lessons for Countering al Qaida." This study is important, for it reaches conclusions which may be surprising to the Bush Administration and to both presidential candidates. To wit, the study concludes that the "war on terrorism" has been a failure, and that the efforts against terrorism should not be characterized as a "war" at all."

"Rand concludes, after studying 648 terrorist groups between 1968 and 2006, that military operations against such groups are among the least effective means of success, achieving the desired effect in only 7% of the cases. As Rand explains, "[a]gainst most terrorist groups . . . military force is usually too blunt an instrument." Moreover, "[t]he use of substantial U.S. military power against terror groups also runs a significant risk of turning the local population against the government by killing civilians."
Dan Kovalik: Rand Corp -- War On Terrorism Is A Failure
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Just like President Bush said the War on Terror will be a long and drawn out war and we may never know when we have one but at least Conservatives know there is a War on Terror and its not some ****ing police action like youe lefties think..........They can't even say the murder of those 12 soldiers at Fort Hood was not a Terrorist act......Bunch of cowards!!
 
Navy Pride said:
Just like President Bush said the War on Terror will be a long and drawn out war and we may never know when we have one but at least Conservatives know there is a War on Terror and its not some ****ing police action like youe lefties think..........
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You can call it whatever you like. The bottom line is we have spent 3 trillion dollars and sacrificed thousands of innocent lives for an effort that has been counter productive.

I thought the goal was to make the US more secure?
 
turns out obama is a closet bushie

last nite at west point he ESCALATED afghanistan

he's actually SURGING

except he's doing so incoherently

he can't even do bush right
 
comparing me to the president

LOL!

such a mature, large minded view of things

obama is attempting his very own SURGE in afghanistan

except he's doing it characteristically half assed

pithy enough?
 
The Prof said:
comparing me to the president

LOL!

such a mature, large minded view of things

obama is attempting his very own SURGE in afghanistan

except he's doing it characteristically half assed

pithy enough?
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Do you know the best estimation for how many troops it would take to secure Afghanistan like Iraq's surge?
hint:
It's in the ball park of logistically impossible with the resources we have now.
 
Catawba said:

You can call it whatever you like. The bottom line is we have spent 3 trillion dollars and sacrificed thousands of innocent lives for an effort that has been counter productive.

I thought the goal was to make the US more secure?
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I call it what it is........lefties like you call it a police action....It ain't no police action.......Its a war for our very survival.....The sooner as far out lefties like you figure that out the better we will be.............
 
Navy Pride said:
Its a war for our very survival.....
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If I was afraid of my shadow, you might could make a sale. Its time to concentrate on our real problems for a change. It boggles my mind how some in this country, the most powerful on earth, are afraid of a rag tag band of outlaws.

Where does that kind of fear come from?
 
Catawba said:
If I was afraid of my shadow, you might could make a sale. Its time to concentrate on our real problems for a change. It boggles my mind how some in this country, the most powerful on earth, are afraid of a rag tag band of outlaws.

Where does that kind of fear come from?
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There are 3 billion muslims..........it has been estimated that 10% of them are radical and want anyone that does not agree with them dead.......Can you imagine if a group of them got a hold of a nuke? You better wake up my left wing friend before its to late...This is the most serious threat this country has ever faced.........Get your ****ing head out of the sand before its to late.......
 
Navy Pride said:
There are 3 billion muslims..........it has been estimated that 10% of them are radical and want anyone that does not agree with them dead.......Can you imagine if a group of them got a hold of a nuke? You better wake up my left wing friend before its to late...This is the most serious threat this country has ever faced.........Get your ****ing head out of the sand before its to late.......
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When it comes to killing the terrorists are rank amateurs, and we have all the toys! We kill more innocent civilians by accident than they do on purpose. The facts are that we are the only nation to have ever used nuclear weapons on innocent civilians.

They have to steal our own planes and use home made bombs to make a weak attack at us that only kills 3,000, yet some are skeered of them and sacrifice thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on a counter productive effort while we ignore our real problems.

Amazing! Who would have thought we would have been stupid enough to play right into Bin Laden's plans.
 
hiroshima and nagasaki were nuclear terrorism.
 
truman targeted civilians with two nukes. terrorism.
 
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hiroshima and nagasaki were nuclear terrorism.

American said:
You don't have a clue.
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Yeah, Scotty don't you know that "the ends justify the means." That's what the terrorists on both sides say! ;)
 
scottsoperson said:
truman targeted civilians with two nukes. terrorism.
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Yes to save millions of Allied forces lives mostly Americans if they had to invade the Japanese mainland...I might add the Japanese were warned to surrender before the bombs were dropped and they refused.....I can't believe how little you libs know about American history.....Sad...........
 
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