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Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

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This is not supposed to happen.

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What is not supposed to happen? People using a military situation to try and score political points?
 
What is not supposed to happen? People using a military situation to try and score political points?

No, a mother shouldn't have to beg the president to send her son, who is serving on a foreign battlefield, the support he needs to win.
 
No, a mother shouldn't have to beg the president to send her son, who is serving on a foreign battlefield, the support he needs to win.
How many times did this happen when GWB was President?
When it did, what was the reaction of the current supporters of The Obama?
 
Cindy Sheehan of the right. :) Oh no wait....this one is legitimate because she's trying to make Obama look bad....
 
As I see it we could bring our troops and feel relatively safe and secure but it would require that we fundamentally change our entire out look and relationship with the rest of the world and society here at home.
For us to be able to protect our People from outside Terrorist attacks we would have to tightly secure our borders and make it impossible to enter illegally at all and to do that we whould have to have and almost shoot to kill policy to dissuade those bent on coming here for any reason.
We would have to round up the estimated tens of thousands of illegals from the Middle East and deport them all. We would need to monitor every person or group with any ties no matter how tangential to any radical group, and assign agents to infiltrate every Mosque to insure there is no Imam out there promoting radicalism.
All air flights from anywhere in the world would require that all potential passengers to be tested for there mental state and proclivities for Jihad before they are allowed to board the plane.
It would turn us into "Fortress Amrica" and in some ways limited use of some of this might not be a bad thing like taking control of our borders, but one thing Bush said was at least close to right. That was, "We are fighting the enemy over there so we don't fight them here." There is a smattering of truth in that.
I sort of understand this mothers motivation but only sort of because I haven't lost a child in war. She is motivated by that anguish and as sad as it is it is not a position from which a Government should operate from when trying to balance security and freedoms with the realities radicalism.
This is a short view of the measures that are and would be needed to maintain any semblance security as I see it.
 
Cindy Sheehan of the right. :) Oh no wait....this one is legitimate because she's trying to make Obama look bad....

Can I continue to not like either one of them? Consistency, it's not something certain of our posters are good at.
 
Can I continue to not like either one of them? Consistency, it's not something certain of our posters are good at.

The key here is that what is good for the donkey is good for the elephant.
 
Can I continue to not like either one of them? Consistency, it's not something certain of our posters are good at.
Such as the person you responded to...
 
What is not supposed to happen? People using a military situation to try and score political points?
Get over yourself and your extreme childishness boy. This mother is right.
 
The key here is that what is good for the donkey is good for the elephant.
Indeed.
Tell us what you thought of Sheehan's actions and criticisms.
 
Get over yourself and your extreme childishness boy. This mother is right.

So you assume some one with less information about a situation is making the right decision, while some one with more information than her, you or I is wrong.
 
Get over yourself and your extreme childishness boy. This mother is right.

Unexplained accusations of childishness are themselves childish. I don't see why it is wrong to be annoyed with politicizing these sentiments.
 
No, a mother shouldn't have to beg the president to send her son, who is serving on a foreign battlefield, the support he needs to win.

She didn't. You just made that up. What she said was

"It's time we do something. This has gone on too long. They either need to come home or we need to end it," a tearful Denise Sherman said.
 
Anyway, we just have to bring them home then, because this probably won't end soon no matter what Obama does.
 
So you assume some one with less information about a situation is making the right decision, while some one with more information than her, you or I is wrong.
I don't trust Obama, he a noob and it shows. BTW, I hope Obama fails.
 
Here's the harsh, hard, cynical reality.

Obama should listen and empathize to this woman, but he should not make his judgement on her words.

likewise

Bush should've listened and empathized with the words of parents saying "end it" (IE bring the troops home), but he should not have made judgements based on their words.

A Presidents judgements and duties are to this country, as a whole, the security of people, as a whole, and those things singularly first. The lives of an individual soldier, or the grief of individual parents, can not singularly weigh on a President so much to influence their decision on what to do for the safety of the country.

This was true under Bush when parents were telling him "End it...bring our kids home" and it holds true under Obama when parents were telling him "End it...send them more troops".

Parents are not the commander in chief and we should not suddenly believe their words hold amazingly more value and power to them when the person saying it is saying something we agree with rather than disagree with.
 
Stop playing both sides. We have enough of that going on in the WH, and that's the problem.
 
Stop playing both sides. We have enough of that going on in the WH, and that's the problem.

That's not playing both sides. That's articulating the only reasonable position.
 
Here's the harsh, hard, cynical reality.

Obama should listen and empathize to this woman, but he should not make his judgement on her words.

likewise

Bush should've listened and empathized with the words of parents saying "end it" (IE bring the troops home), but he should not have made judgements based on their words.

A Presidents judgements and duties are to this country, as a whole, the security of people, as a whole, and those things singularly first.
All of this is absolutely correct.
 
No, being decisive is the only reasonable position.
 
Cindy Sheehan of the right. :) Oh no wait....this one is legitimate because she's trying to make Obama look bad....

I wonder if "this one" will get the media attention that Sheehan got since she is challenging Obama... wanna bet she gets ignored by all those MSM who savored every anti-Bush word that Sheehan uttered (no matter how incoherent).
 
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