Stimulus job boost in state exaggerated, review finds

Stimulus job boost in state exaggerated, review finds

While Massachusetts recipients of federal stimulus money collectively report 12,374 jobs saved or created, a Globe review shows that number is wildly exaggerated. Organizations that received stimulus money miscounted jobs, filed erroneous figures, or claimed jobs for work that has not yet started.

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One of the largest reported jobs figures comes from Bridgewater State College, which is listed as using $77,181 in stimulus money for 160 full-time work-study jobs for students. But Bridgewater State spokesman Bryan Baldwin said the college made a mistake and the actual number of new jobs was “almost nothing.’’ Bridgewater has submitted a correction, but it is not yet reflected in the report.

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“After HUD denied me money to make needed improvements and actually create jobs,’’ Ercolini said, “it’s really funny to find out in September that I’ve been receiving stimulus funds all along and they want to know how many jobs we’ve saved or created.’’

By his count, the answer is: “No jobs.’’

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I'm sure this is a common theme across the country. What they are trying isn't going to work. Especially when instead of the "shovel ready" infrastructure projects that the money was supposed to used on, it's just used to extend unemployment.

This is a huge problem for the Democrats.

Even stupid people know when they can't find a job. All the fabricated numbers are cute, but real is real, and real people aren't working.

The effective unemployment (people actually looking for work) is about 17 percent, and even higher in some of the bluest states in the country.

The more Obama/Biden and company stand up and brag about "jobs created and saved", the more their credibility evaporates within their own voter base.

Erod said:

This is a huge problem for the Democrats.

Even stupid people know when they can't find a job. All the fabricated numbers are cute, but real is real, and real people aren't working.

The effective unemployment (people actually looking for work) is about 17 percent, and even higher in some of the bluest states in the country.

The more Obama/Biden and company stand up and brag about "jobs created and saved", the more their credibility evaporates within their own voter base.

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Of course it's fabricated. Because government "Stimulus" never works. For all the drooling praise for FDR, his policies extended the GD, and had WWII not kicked off, he'd of been exposed as a failure.

The empty suit strikes again. :doh

MrVicchio said:

Of course it's fabricated. Because government "Stimulus" never works. For all the drooling praise for FDR, his policies extended the GD, and had WWII not kicked off, he'd of been exposed as a failure.

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Isn't it frustrating how that nary a word of that was uttered in our classrooms growing up? The New Deal is spoken of with the same reverence as Einsteins Theory of Relativity.

We also don't hear much about the FDR's shady dealings with Stalin, and how Poland was left in shambles at Russia's mercy and ignored after the war. Hitler and Stalin were basically one in the same for Poland, and we did nothing.

Erod said:

Isn't it frustrating how that nary a word of that was uttered in our classrooms growing up? The New Deal is spoken of with the same reverence as Einsteins Theory of Relativity.

We also don't hear much about the FDR's shady dealings with Stalin, and how Poland was left in shambles at Russia's mercy and ignored after the war. Hitler and Stalin were basically one in the same for Poland, and we did nothing.

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How old are you?

I heard that Russia was an evil empire and raped the countries behind the Iron Curtain, we must fight this evil least it over come us.

I was a heady student of History, namely the 20th Century because so much CHANGE happened. I was well aware that FDR screwed the pooch when it came to Stalin.

Phoenix said:

Stimulus job boost in state exaggerated, review finds







I'm sure this is a common theme across the country. What they are trying isn't going to work. Especially when instead of the "shovel ready" infrastructure projects that the money was supposed to used on, it's just used to extend unemployment.

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Actually, that's not true at all. Plenty of jobs were created in the state.

BTW, you ARE talking about the state of Denial, aren't you? :mrgreen:

MrVicchio said:

How old are you?

I heard that Russia was an evil empire and raped the countries behind the Iron Curtain, we must fight this evil least it over come us.

I was a heady student of History, namely the 20th Century because so much CHANGE happened. I was well aware that FDR screwed the pooch when it came to Stalin.

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I'm 43, but in the high school classrooms I sat in, we were given more the generic overview of history. More of a memorize and test format than a discussion of any real depth or meaning.

It wasn't really until after college that I became more organically interested in history. I could recite the basic facts and names before, but I wasn't inherently interested in delving deeper as I was later.

Now, I drive my own kids to look beyond their text books, and it seems to be taking root. I wish my parents would have done that for me.

Is there truly anything more fascinating - and entertaining - than history? Even watching Band of Brothers or John Adams is so much more fun when you know the historical fabric and context of the times.

In fact, I honestly believe that not knowing basic history is one of the most dangerous and disturbing aspects of Americans today. It explains an awful lot, doesn't it?

MrVicchio said:

How old are you?

I heard that Russia was an evil empire and raped the countries behind the Iron Curtain, we must fight this evil least it over come us.

I was a heady student of History, namely the 20th Century because so much CHANGE happened. I was well aware that FDR screwed the pooch when it came to Stalin.

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I'm not sure about the facts you mentioned but schools do teach that FDR and his New Deal tactics brought us out of the depression when plenty of evidence exists to the contrary.

Phoenix said:

I'm sure this is a common theme across the country.

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I created a thread about these supposed jobs-

Stimulus dishonesty

the globe's story about the bogus claims of stimulus authors concerning the number of jobs "created or saved" must be the 30th such article to hit our airwaves

and they're from msm sources---abc, cbs, ap, cnn, fox, the la times and now the globe

originally printed by sacbee:

Hawaii Reporter: Hawaii Reporter

from ABC:

$160,000 Per Stimulus Job? White House Calls That 'Calculator Abuse' - Political Punch

Stimulus Jobs Check: Are They for Real? - CBS Evening News - CBS News

The Associated Press: Romer: Impact of stimulus will level off

Big Firms, Little Competition Mark Federal Stimulus Deals - WSJ.com

U.S. government nervous about stimulus fraud, scams | Markets | Markets News | Reuters

$2.3 million in federal stimulus money is going to pay for Tampa Bay area beauty school tuition - St. Petersburg Times

Feds: Stimulus money sent to 4,000 cons - BostonHerald.com

Stimulus Bill Funds Go to Art Houses Showing 'Pervert' Revues, Underground Pornography - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum - FOXNews.com

AP:

SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

cnn:

30,383: First stimulus jobs numbers unveiled - Oct. 15, 2009

etc

no one is buying obama's spin

the truth about the stimulus is it was NOT designed to grow jobs and reverse our downward spiral

it was instead the worst of traditional beltway bacon all earmarked up with absurdities

After a flurry of stimulus spending, questionable projects pile up | Washington Examiner

if pelosi/obama were serious about stimulating employment they'd have used a portion of the 787B to CUT PAYROLL TAXES for a given, certain measure of time, say 2 years

as for the effects of fdr's efforts, historians are very aware of the big economic dip that was 1937, called the "roosevelt recession"

five years in, things got much worse

i'm old enough to remember being taught in hi school that what ended the great depression was NOT fdr's economic measures but the onset of ww2

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1937]Recession of 1937?1938 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

It's typical of government "USE IT OR LOSE IT" mentality. If departments do not make use of their budgeted money they may not get more or may have to pay some of it back. So they inflate the numbers. Add a little insistence by the higher ups to generate numbers and rampant abuse ensues.

Phoenix said:

Stimulus job boost in state exaggerated, review finds

I'm sure this is a common theme across the country. What they are trying isn't going to work. Especially when instead of the "shovel ready" infrastructure projects that the money was supposed to used on, it's just used to extend unemployment.

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What!? A government agency lied to try to make itself look better!!?? Holy crap! Stop the presses.

On the other hand, are there still people out there who trust Obama?

Erod said:

This is a huge problem for the Democrats.

Even stupid people know when they can't find a job. All the fabricated numbers are cute, but real is real, and real people aren't working.

The effective unemployment (people actually looking for work) is about 17 percent, and even higher in some of the bluest states in the country.

The more Obama/Biden and company stand up and brag about "jobs created and saved", the more their credibility evaporates within their own voter base.

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I'm just hoping they continue to blame Bush all the way into 2012.

and we should get ready for another round of "Stimulus"

the not a stimulus, stimulus