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Again, you have not shown Obama to have jumped to any conclusion.
Again I have and you don't want to admit it.
Again, you have not shown Obama to have jumped to any conclusion.
Why would you think that demonizing a religious group would somehow be what the murdered troops would want? Certainly if I were murdered by some nut the most horrible possible outcome I can imagine of that would be for it to be twisted into a reason to stir up more religious hatred. I presume that at least some of these troops enlisted under the belief that they are going to the middle east on a mission to help the region, so they would presumably share my disgust for the way their deaths are being used to build up the hatred they were ready to give their lives to quell.
Your problem was you excuse Obama jumping to conclusions then chastise anyone else who uses the data we have right now to support this was about Islam.
Here is the part where you ignore the fact he brought up only one possible cause, ignore that and only focus on his second sentence that he wanted to "wait" before drawing any conclusions. :rofl
I wonder if this guy had used a suicide vest instead of a gun would you be equally as gullible in proclaiming it wasn't about Islam?
So its demonizing now to say he committed this act of terrorism based on Islam?
Should we just lie and say he was crazy?
Isn't that how he slipped through all this time?
So its demonizing now to say he committed this act of terrorism based on Islam?
Should we just lie and say he was crazy?
Isn't that how he slipped through all this time?
Again I have and you don't want to admit it.
Reading Comprehension Fail.
Where to begin.
No, actually, I DON'T chastise though that want to take the evidence CURRENTLY available and say that its likely his religion had a factor in this.
I do chastise those that say at this point it was ONLY due to his religion, which is ignorant to say before all facts have came in. I also chastised people who started making accusations the moment this happened that implied "Oh, it is obviously muslim terrorism" because its ignorant to do that as if its factual before it happens (I equally chastised those that immedietely tried to imply "Oh, it is obviously chrsitian teabaggers" when the census worker was hung".
Also, show me where I've ever proclaimed his religion had nothing to do this. Search my posts before you make direct accusations. I've never said such. On the contrary, I specifically have stated I fully believe his religion played into it.
And no, it doesn't appear that Obama is jumping to conclusions.p
His second sentence is the important one, that he's not going to state why or how this happened until all the facts are out. And that's correct, because he's the POTUS not an average citizen, and its important that our chief executive exemplifies the fact that in investigations you don't start making assumptions or difinitive statements without all the facts.
The only way for this to be true is if he meant something completely other than what he said. Here, let me explain what he said to you. He said it might be stress, it might be part of a conspiracy/plot, until the investigation is done, it is premature to comment. Now explain how that is "jumping to conclusions".
So you're a 100% positive it couldn't be that he had some kind of mental condition or issue that along with being close to being deployed, combined with his extreme religious views, caused this and that it was simply and souley based on his following of Islam?
Because he only suggests one possible cause, ignores the one we actually have evidence for then tries a cheap political trick to have it both ways by then claiming he wants to wait for all the evidence.
I think the South Park flag is racist! But it is part of our history.
President Obama said:I think the questions that we're asking now and we don't have yet complete answers to is, is this an individual who's acting in this way or is it some larger set of actors?
I'm wondering if Islam is to blame for this obviously insane act is Christanity to blame for abortion clinic bombings?
Is there a global CHristian movement trying to kill people for not being Christians nd trying to overthrow governments? There isn't, is it?
Is there a global CHristian movement trying to kill people for not being Christians nd trying to overthrow governments? There isn't, is it?
Well there is the neo nazi movement and as far as I know the do claim Christinaity :shrug:
They're not a religious movement, but I group them together with Islam.
In this century? No, in the past, yes.
So was it Christianity that caused it in the past, or was it the PEOPLE that USED Christianity in the past that caused it.
And if you say it was the PEOPLE then, then how can you say its 100% different when it comes to muslims, and say that its completely the religions fault and not the peoples fault that's causing it?
So you think Islam, on the whole, is more comparable to Neo-Nazi's than to say...Christians?
Yeah, it was Chistians that caused it and they did it in the name of Christianity, the same way that Muslims do those things in the name of Islam today. However, Christians have outgrown all that crap in the past few hundred years.
Would you be making all these excusese for Klansmen, or Nazis? Probably not, huh?
Yeah, it was Chistians that caused it and they did it in the name of Christianity, the same way that Muslims do those things in the name of Islam today. However, Christians have outgrown all that crap in the past few hundred years.
Would you be making all these excusese for Klansmen, or Nazis? Probably not, huh?
Aheeem the klan claims they are a Christian org. Why don't ya stop by Stormfront and ask the posters there about their religious beliefs.
Most definitely! Their body counts are comparable.
In terms of body count Islam and Christianity are FAR closer to each other than either of them are to the Neo-Nazi movement.