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Koreas Exchange Fire on disputed sea border

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Koreas Exchange Fire in Naval Clash - North Korea | Map | Government - FOXNews.com

SEOUL, South Korea — The two Koreas briefly exchanged naval fire Tuesday along their disputed western sea border, with a North Korean ship suffering heavy damage before retreating, South Korean military officials said.

There were no South Korean casualties, the country's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement, and it was not immediately clear if there were any casualties on the North Korean side. Each side blamed the other for violating the sea border

-All it's going to take is a lit match and we're going to get pretty busy on the peninsula.
 
NK would be absolutely retarded to start a war with S. Korea. N. Korea's ships are outdated, their subs are noisy and old. N. Korea's only possible joker is the number of kamikazis they could send against the South.
 
But North Korea has a massive standing army militarised to the point of brainwashing and enough artillery pointing at the south to make the place look like a giant crater.
 
It hasn't been so blatant and provacative for a long time, though. Normally it's missile testing and border closing and so forth. This is direct military engagement at a large level.
 
In related news, North Korea is now building a new navy, which will consist of glass bottom boats, so they can look down and see the old North Korean navy. :mrgreen:
 
In related news, North Korea is now building a new navy, which will consist of glass bottom boats, so they can look down and see the old North Korean navy. :mrgreen:

Haha. Terrible in a good way.

Brings up some interesting diplomacy issues for the six-party talks. If it does develop into war can the US really afford to lend the south financial and military aid? Who will China support?
 
But North Korea has a massive standing army militarised to the point of brainwashing and enough artillery pointing at the south to make the place look like a giant crater.

True however it's equipment is extremely dated. And the South and U.S. forces have a very capable and modern military machine in place that easily balances the playing field.

I once held that should North Korea choose to attack we would be stretched too thin to really do much. Then a friend of mine directed me to some good sources on North Korean military capacity and capability...much more informative information than I had seen before (which isn't saying much).

Anyway, the point is this...think Desert Storm. Yes NK has a huge arsenal of artillery, tanks, and men. But the tanks are older and would get eaten alive by the Abrams and K1 and K2 tanks, Their artillery is massed and would fall pray to our advanced counter battery fire, not to mention we would achieve air superiority very quickly and strike their artillery sites with near impunity. I'm not saying we wouldn't lose some ground, but we would win that engagement.

The real worry if you ask me is their asymmetrical warfare capability. It's probably the largest in the world and would be difficult to contain.
 
Is this to be a convential war, though? The North is basically a massive guerrilla army in disguise.
 
They'll need lots of food and money to keep that huge army going.
 
The North Korean army will pour across the DMZ like army ants, killing everything in their path and living off the land. The only bright side to whole ordeal is that ROK's are some of the meanest SOB's in the world and are willing to fight to the death. An a oppurtunity that they will no doubt get.
 
The North Korean army will pour across the DMZ like army ants, killing everything in their path and living off the land. The only bright side to whole ordeal is that ROK's are some of the meanest SOB's in the world and are willing to fight to the death. An a oppurtunity that they will no doubt get.
You mean the South Koreans haven't considered this possibility in their plans?
 
True however it's equipment is extremely dated. And the South and U.S. forces have a very capable and modern military machine in place that easily balances the playing field.

I once held that should North Korea choose to attack we would be stretched too thin to really do much. Then a friend of mine directed me to some good sources on North Korean military capacity and capability...much more informative information than I had seen before (which isn't saying much).

Anyway, the point is this...think Desert Storm. Yes NK has a huge arsenal of artillery, tanks, and men. But the tanks are older and would get eaten alive by the Abrams and K1 and K2 tanks, Their artillery is massed and would fall pray to our advanced counter battery fire, not to mention we would achieve air superiority very quickly and strike their artillery sites with near impunity. I'm not saying we wouldn't lose some ground, but we would win that engagement.

The real worry if you ask me is their asymmetrical warfare capability. It's probably the largest in the world and would be difficult to contain.

Yes, but within the hour, Seoul, which is near the border, would be a massive pile of rubble. That's the trump.
 
Yes, but within the hour, Seoul, which is near the border, would be a massive pile of rubble. That's the trump.
I don't suppose anyone has been planning for this for the last 50 years?
 
You mean the South Koreans haven't considered this possibility in their plans?

Oh yes, they've definitely considered that. In fact, they know that will be the scenario. Last estimate I heard, was that friendly forces in the south will have less than 12 hours to mobilize 90% of all forces, in country and send them down range to engage the NK incursion. The forward camps, that make a semi-circle north of Seoul will act as a speed bump, to slow the enemy down and allow friendly forces to get their **** together and move toward the FEBA, forward edge of the battle area. Those camps in what is known as, "stand alone", country. They don't give it that name, for nothin'.
 
It's not like they didn't have 50 years to move the capital south. Whatever.
 
Oh yes, they've definitely considered that. In fact, they know that will be the scenario. Last estimate I heard, was that friendly forces in the south will have less than 12 hours to mobilize 90% of all forces, in country and send them down range to engage the NK incursion. The forward camps, that make a semi-circle north of Seoul will act as a speed bump, to slow the enemy down and allow friendly forces to get their **** together and move toward the FEBA, forward edge of the battle area. Those camps in what is known as, "stand alone", country. They don't give it that name, for nothin'.

They practice full-scale operations twice a year jointly with U.S. forces in the air, sea, and on the land.
 
They practice full-scale operations twice a year jointly with U.S. forces in the air, sea, and on the land.

Yep, been there, done that. It's scary, because they don't tell you it's not the real deal. We were issued live ordinance and everything, so we could only hope that the ballon didn't go up.
 
I just hope we get our troops out of this region, before all hell breaks loose!
 
NK would be absolutely retarded to start a war with S. Korea. N. Korea's ships are outdated, their subs are noisy and old. N. Korea's only possible joker is the number of kamikazis they could send against the South.

Unfortunately, NK's regime is absolutely retarded
 
More calls for retreat? Really?

There is no need for our troops to be there, S. Korea is well armed, it is high time we bring our troops home.

Do you really want our troops to be slaughtered, and that is what will happen should the north invade, why would we allow that?:confused:
 
China will never let North Korea destabilize that region and give us an excuse to increase our presence there.
 
China will never let North Korea destabilize that region and give us an excuse to increase our presence there.

I disagree, I think China would like nothing more, then for the NK's to invade the south.

Just think about it?
 
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