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Alleged Ft. Hood gunman may have 9/11 mosque link

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Source: AP
Nov 9, 2009

FORT HOOD, Texas – A key U.S. senator said Sunday he would begin an investigation into whether the Army missed signs that the man accused of opening fire at Fort Hood had embraced an increasingly extremist view of Islamic ideology.

Sen. Joe Lieberman's call for the investigation came as word surfaced that Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan apparently attended the same Virginia mosque as two Sept. 11 hijackers in 2001, at a time when a radical imam preached there. Whether Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, associated with the hijackers is something the FBI will probably look into, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

Imagine that, this is going to cause problems for all of you who do not want him to be tied to jihadist. We wouldn't want poor Major Hasan to be called a terrorist. Its just not politically correct.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091109/ap_on_re_us/us_fort_hood_shooting
 
Political correctness kills.

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zimmer pal, you took the words rihjt out of my mouth. All this P.C. (expletive deleted) has got to stop along with the B.S. that we need to be all inclusive and open to diversity in the military. I'm sorry but I thought for sure many of the rights we have as civilians end when we take the oath and put on the uniform of the Nation, and our rights and what control us at that point falls under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, that and little things like being a Democracy do not translate into the Military way of life where it is a Dictatorship as long as the orders a lawful.
This portion of the story should have been more than a red flag and should have been enough to dump this bastard out in the street.
Classmates participating in a 2007-2008 master's program at a military college complained repeatedly to superiors about what they considered Hasan's anti-American views. Dr. Val Finnell said Hasan gave a presentation at the Uniformed Services University that justified suicide bombing and told classmates that Islamic law trumped the U.S. Constitution.
I'm hate saying this but the officers above this wacko should be held to account for dereliction of duty. Even in the private sector as an Executive Manager of a facility is responsible for the actions of his or her subordinates with special emphasis on Junior Managers and I believe the Military is not less stringent in it's demands on it's Senior officers. Responsibility is a burden reserved hopefully for those willing and able to handle it. In this case the failures are glaringly obvious.
 
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Source: AP
Nov 9, 2009

Imagine that, this is going to cause problems for all of you who do not want him to be tied to jihadist. We wouldn't want poor Major Hasan to be called a terrorist. Its just not politically correct.

Resolute Fort Hood soldiers ready for return - Yahoo! News

Could you please provide names of those who "do not want him to be tied to jihadist" and some quote showing this as true, or are you just full of bluff and bluster as you talk out your ass about imaginary people?

Good on Lieberman to call for investigations. If the same mosque is connected to more and more of these that particular mosque should probably be looked at more closely.
 
Political correctness kills.

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Bull****.

Bull.

****.

Terrorists kill. Emotionally unstable gunmen kill. People kill.

Your stupid yet oft repated nonsense is merely another bit of fear mongering in an effort to legitimize intolerance. "See, because we can't call Islams blood thirsty savages they can rape and murder Amuricah at will!"

PC doesn't kill anyone. And if you're truly convinced of that then your a very weak minded and gullible person. The government is not shutting down the internet, turning off radio stations, editing newspaperss, or censoring television to the point that it's endangering this nation. People can say what they want. However reasonably intelligent people don't actually follow the rhetoric that you and other regurgitate on a regular basis.

Nobody is stopping you from spreading any message, good or bad, about Islam. Some people just don't want to hear your ****.

PC kills. Seriously, I can't believe you and other grown adults on this website actually put yourself out there like that in front of other people, but whatever.
 
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Could you please provide names of those who "do not want him to be tied to jihadist" and some quote showing this as true, or are you just full of bluff and bluster as you talk out your ass about imaginary people?

Good on Lieberman to call for investigations. If the same mosque is connected to more and more of these that particular mosque should probably be looked at more closely.

Right, if you're not with them you're against them. Don't you get it. PC kills and all that.
 
I hate political correctness for the most part...

But I don't understand how the crowd that gets amazingly pissed off when you say "Guns Kill" and retorts with "No, PEOPLE kill people. Stop blaming other things and blame the individuals doing it" can turn around and go "PC kills"
 
I hate political correctness for the most part...

But I don't understand how the crowd that gets amazingly pissed off when you say "Guns Kill" and retorts with "No, PEOPLE kill people. Stop blaming other things and blame the individuals doing it" can turn around and go "PC kills"

I blame the evil ideology that requires its members to submit completely and fight holy war for Allahs cause. Major Hasan was doing what is required of him, read the Qur'an. Its all in there, the only thing he did not do right was to die while fighting for Allahs cause.

Muslim:C31B20N4645
"The Prophet said: 'Whoever cheerfully accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his Religion and Muhammad as his Apostle is necessarily entitled to enter Paradise.' Abu wondered at it and said: 'Messenger of Allah, repeat that for me.' He did that and said: 'There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred, and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth.' Abu said: 'What is that act?' He replied: 'Jihad in the Way of Allah! Jihad in Allah's Cause!'"

Qur'an:4:74
"Let those who fight in the Cause of Allah sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the Cause of Allah, whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall We give him a great reward."


Bukhari:V4B52N53
"The Prophet said, 'Nobody who dies and finds Paradise would wish to come back to this life even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to get killed again in Allah's Cause.'"
 
Ah. SgtRock, you're back. Perhaps you can clarify something

Imagine that, this is going to cause problems for all of you who do not want him to be tied to jihadist.

This is your quote. You are claerly through in tense speaking to people who would be reading your post here on this forum. Could you please provide proof with names and quotes of these supposed people who "do not want him to be tied to jihadists"? I'm very curious and would like to see you actually back up your assertion to show there's actually a point to the accuastions you made in this thread.

I'm not going to move on to other points you make when you can't/won't even back up the very first one you made.
 
Ah. SgtRock, you're back. Perhaps you can clarify something



This is your quote. You are claerly through in tense speaking to people who would be reading your post here on this forum. Could you please provide proof with names and quotes of these supposed people who "do not want him to be tied to jihadists"? I'm very curious and would like to see you actually back up your assertion to show there's actually a point to the accuastions you made in this thread.

I'm not going to move on to other points you make when you can't/won't even back up the very first one you made.

I am refering to the poltically correct in our media who seem to be afraid to call things what they are when it has anything to do with Islam / jihad / terrorism, etc. Its as if they are afraid to upset muslims. They are walking on ****ing egg shells and its disgusting to see. We have become a nation oc PC ******s shaking in our shoes. Man I sure miss cherokee. He understood where I was comming from.
 
I am refering to the poltically correct in our media who seem to be afraid to call things what they are when it has anything to do with Islam / jihad / terrorism, etc. Its as if they are afraid to upset muslims. They are walking on ****ing egg shells and its disgusting to see. We have become a nation oc PC ******s shaking in our shoes. Man I sure miss cherokee. He understood where I was comming from.

Exactly!

PC is going to be the death of this nation.
 
I am refering to the poltically correct in our media who seem to be afraid to call things what they are when it has anything to do with Islam / jihad / terrorism, etc. Its as if they are afraid to upset muslims. They are walking on ****ing egg shells and its disgusting to see. We have become a nation oc PC ******s shaking in our shoes. Man I sure miss cherokee. He understood where I was comming from.

Oooooh

You were talking to the media.

I didn't realize that you apparently have the impression we have a large number of mainstream media members that post here since you said...

Imagine that, this is going to cause problems for all of you who do not want him to be tied to jihadist.

Seemed like you were talking specifically about certain people on this forum that'd be reading this, since you say problems "for all of you" seeming to reference the forum and not "for all the media".

Care to enlighten us as to which mainstream media members you suspect are forum members?
 
Oooooh

You were talking to the media.

I didn't realize that you apparently have the impression we have a large number of mainstream media members that post here since you said...



Seemed like you were talking specifically about certain people on this forum that'd be reading this, since you say problems "for all of you" seeming to reference the forum and not "for all the media".

Care to enlighten us as to which mainstream media members you suspect are forum members?

I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you. There all around us Zyp. They could be watching us right now. Jihadist sympathizers around every corner, behind every IP address. :shock:
 
Fort Hood Army Massacre Shooter Has Possible 9/11 Link

Fort Hood Army Massacre Shooter Has Possible 9/11 Link

Nidal Malik Hasan, who savagely opened fire on his fellow servicemen in Fort Hood, Texas last week, killing 12 and injuring dozens others, may have a link to 9/11. Hasan attended a Virginia mosque at the same time as two of the 9/11 hijackers, and the FBI is now investigating whether there is a connection between the men.

Fort Hood Army Massacre Shooter Has Possible 9/11 Link | Cleveland Leader

This is the nail in the coffin for those still claiming that this wasn't a clear cut jihadist attack.

Two of the 9-11 hijackers attended the same Mosque as Nidal under the tutelage of the radical wahhabist Imam Anwar al Awlaki who himself was under investigation by the FBI before he fled to Yemen. This is the same Imam who has since praised the fort hood attacker as a "a hero," and that he "is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people." And that's not all folks, this is the very same Imam who Nidal emailed up to 20 times before the deadly attack.
 
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'Possible'?
So nothing confirmed then?
 
Re: Fort Hood Army Massacre Shooter Has Possible 9/11 Link

'Possible'?
So nothing confirmed then?

No it's been confirmed that he attended the same Mosque as 2 of the hijackers, what has not been confirmed is whether or not he knew them, but he for certain knew their shared radical wahhabist Iman Anwar al Awlaki and that he emailed him upto 20 times before the attacks, that's the link.
 
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No it's been confirmed that he attended the same Mosque as 2 of the hijackers, what has not been confirmed is whether or not he knew them, but he for certain knew their shared radical wahhabist Iman Anwar al Awlaki and that he emailed him upto 20 times before the attacks, that's the link.
This is -far- more concrete than the usual justification for the "Bush lied about an Iraq/9-11 link" claim. By the standards of the people that support said claim, there should be NO question that the Ft Hood shooter was linked to the terrorists that attacked us in 9-11.
 
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It should be clear to anyone by now that this was a Jihadist attack inspired by radical Islamist ideology and not simply a guy who snapped. Let's just look at the facts. Nidal glorified and justified suicide bombings. He carried around business cards with Soldier of Allah inscribed on them. Nidal said that Muslims should murder Americans. Nidal stood up and yelled the Jihadist battle cry of Allahu Akbar before he began opening fire. Nidal and two of the 9-11 hijackers attended the same Mosque under the tutelage of the radical wahhabist Imam Anwar al Awlaki who himself was under investigation by the FBI before he fled to Yemen. This is the same Imam who has since praised the fort hood attacker as a "a hero," and that he "is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people." And that's not all folks, this is the very same Imam who Nidal emailed up to 20 times before the deadly attack.

I mean it doesn't take a freaking rocket scientist here.
 
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Yes, it looks perfectly clear. A mentally disturbed individual that subscribed to an extreme ideology segment of islam was set to be shipped out to the actual front lines and rather than do that, or flee, decided dto essentially martyr himself.

There's still no evidence of him actually having direct links or planning with a terrorist organization, that he was striving to send some large kind of political message, or inspire fear into the population more so than simply killing people. I still see it at this point as a mass murder perpetrated by a islamic extremist, not a "terrorist" attack. My statement on that would remain the same rather it's Obama or Bush in control. If a clear tie to a terrorist organization in some way is found then I'll be more apt to say this was a planned terrorist attack; as it stands it still seems to be a religiously motivated mass murder.

I don't think many people are going to disagree that it was inspired in part due to radical Islamist views. I think people have issues when they try to say islam, general normal islam, was the sole reason for this.

If this man wasn't adhering to a seemingly extreme version of the ideology, this likely wouldn't have happened. If he didn't have the emotional and mental qualities that lead such a person to gravitate to such an ideology, this likely would've never happened. If we were fighting china or russia rather than predominantly muslim middle eastern countries, this likely wouldn't have happened. I think people trying to pin this almost singularly on Islam in general are absolutely ignorant on this issue and simply trying to score political points. But its absolutely impossible to try and legitimately say that radical extremist islamist views did not play a large part into causing this to occur.
 
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How did this loon get into the army?
 
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Yes, it looks perfectly clear. A mentally disturbed individual that subscribed to an extreme ideology segment of islam was set to be shipped out to the actual front lines and rather than do that, or flee, decided dto essentially martyr himself.

There's still no evidence of him actually having direct links or planning with a terrorist organization, that he was striving to send some large kind of political message, or inspire fear into the population more so than simply killing people. I still see it at this point as a mass murder perpetrated by a islamic extremist, not a "terrorist" attack. My statement on that would remain the same rather it's Obama or Bush in control. If a clear tie to a terrorist organization in some way is found then I'll be more apt to say this was a planned terrorist attack; as it stands it still seems to be a religiously motivated mass murder.

I don't think many people are going to disagree that it was inspired in part due to radical Islamist views. I think people have issues when they try to say islam, general normal islam, was the sole reason for this.

If this man wasn't adhering to a seemingly extreme version of the ideology, this likely wouldn't have happened. If he didn't have the emotional and mental qualities that lead such a person to gravitate to such an ideology, this likely would've never happened. If we were fighting china or russia rather than predominantly muslim middle eastern countries, this likely wouldn't have happened. I think people trying to pin this almost singularly on Islam in general are absolutely ignorant on this issue and simply trying to score political points. But its absolutely impossible to try and legitimately say that radical extremist islamist views did not play a large part into causing this to occur.

He was a terrorist. A latent cell that acted independently of the command structure. It's important that we view him as such.
 
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He was a terrorist. A latent cell that acted independently of the command structure. It's important that we view him as such.

You will never convince him. No matter how much evidence you give him he will still deny it.
 
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