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reefedjib said:
I noticed you've made your profile private. I feel like I have missed out on something fantastic!
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Being a muslim, she only shows her ankles though..... It's easier to hide her AK-47 under her burka when she goes out to the night clubs. ;) :2razz:
 
reefedjib said:
I noticed you've made your profile private. I feel like I have missed out on something fantastic!
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My profile is private? News to me.

And I don't post pics on it, I posted it in the Tavern.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
True....


If the majority of people against abortion...

If the majority of people against poverty

If the majority of people against driving while texting

If the majority of people......


point being, until we stop making excused for our apathy, This argument, one I used to use all the time, doesn't hold water in the big picture of things.


yes, MANY MANY muslims are apathetic, or quietly support these savages in certain hot bed countries. but for the vast majority, they are like you and I and just want to live thier lives. :shrug:
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Your response has an air of equating text-driving, abortion & poverty problems with violent religious persecution and genocide.



Shouldn't it be at least expected that all people be aligned against violent religious persecution and genocide? Apathy is complicity.
 
I'm sorry, but haven't the religious right for years upon years been saying that Abortion is the "genocide" of the unborn and mass murder.........?
 
Laila said:
No it wouldn't.

The problem lies in issues surrounding uneducation, corruption and poverty etc, many countries where extremism is alive. These problems are close by.
You will not solve this problem through just getting a bunch of Muslims turning around and telling the extremists 'You are wrong'. You remove their support base by removing the reasons they exist.
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Exactly Laila! This is what I'm talking about. There are many, many factors that people turn to extremism. Most are social and economical. Whole sections of a populace are oppressed, depressed and in despair. They are vulnerable to charismatic firebrands who offer up an enemy to rail against and a way to fight back at their plight.

You attack the social and economic issues that fertilize the breeding grounds of extremism. You will have those who choose extremism regardless, but you will greatly diminish the support mechanism and recruitment efforts when you bring some semblance of social and economic stability.

When dealing with a substance abuser simply taking away the substance isn't going to fix the person. You have to address why they abuse the substance in the first place. Maybe a poor comparison but the logic is the same. Examine and address the factors that lead individuals to turn to violence as a means of expression. Because that's what this is.
 
Laila said:
No it wouldn't.

The problem lies in issues surrounding uneducation, corruption and poverty etc, many countries where extremism is alive.
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Yes, and those components are statistically much higher in countries where Islam is the basis for all laws and economic principles.

These problems are close by.
You will not solve this problem through just getting a bunch of Muslims turning around and telling the extremists 'You are wrong'. You remove their support base by removing the reasons they exist.
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No! You must clean up your own house first. That is unless you accept the fact that the Jew and Kafir are the genesis for all social and economic problems in Muslim nations.
 
Laila said:
My profile is private? News to me.

And I don't post pics on it, I posted it in the Tavern.
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Ahh, I don't drink, so I have only been to the Tavern once or twice. It seems that is an appropriate place for them.
 
The silenced majority said:
Yes, and those components are statistically much higher in countries where Islam is the basis for all laws and economic principles.

No! You must clean up your own house first. That is unless you accept the fact that the Jew and Kafir are the genesis for all social and economic problems in Muslim nations.
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Yes I know. But I doubt Islam plays a factor in why the Saudi royals are still in power ... I think that is due to the West's support of the regime

Why would I accept that?
And what exactly am I supposed to do?
Anyone who thinks I am going to be a crusader against the extremist and somehow magically kill them all can go bugger off.
 
bhkad said:
She may never crack. But then again, the seed may take root after she sees Western culture taking her future children down the wrong road and she decides that she doesn't want her children to become that Westernized.

What we can't deny is that Islam, literal and fundamental, will still be there, unchanged and old school, waiting to be taken up by those willing to accept it's instruction.
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I personally can't wait till we embark upon another Crusade. I've been Christian most of my life, maybe one day something in me will snap and I'll take up the sword and go Old School/Old Testament.

Maybe.

Spooooooooooky.

:rofl
 
The silenced majority said:
Your response has an air of equating text-driving, abortion & poverty problems with violent religious persecution and genocide.
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In order to arive at that conclusion you would have to forget to whom you are talking to. ;)


Though I do view abortion as a continuing holocost...


My reslove in fighting radical islamic-facsism is not something that can be questioned.

That said. I can't have a genocidic view of a whole religion for the actions of its minority.


We have an enemy that we need to fight, kill, and destroy. Mudding the waters with attacking the whole religion helps us not in this fight....


I think Islam has a huge problem, a huge issue, with its extremeists, and many are more than "apathetic", however, I can't look at someone like Laila and think that she is going to crack and shoot up her neighborhood if say they deploy her brother to A-stan....


Come on, do the numbers. it makes little sense to go after the whole of a religion for the actions of less than 10%


Shouldn't it be at least expected that all people be aligned against violent religious persecution and genocide? Apathy is complicity.
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i'm not sure of your point here. can you rephrase?
 
Lerxst said:
I personally can't wait till we embark upon another Crusade. I've been Christian most of my life, maybe one day something in me will snap and I'll take up the sword and go Old School/Old Testament.

Maybe.

Spooooooooooky.

:rofl
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I want a horse and one of those white knight costumes.... :mrgreen:
 
Lerxst said:
I personally can't wait till we embark upon another Crusade. I've been Christian most of my life, maybe one day something in me will snap and I'll take up the sword and go Old School/Old Testament.

Maybe.

Spooooooooooky.

:rofl
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Yay the Crusades. Be sure to kidnap a **** load of children and make them fight too. That worked well last time.
 
The silenced majority said:
They aren't the one's advocating genocide, lol.

FAIL.
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However many abortion clinic bombers and murderers have been Christian or right wing fundamentalist types. Those savages. Who knows when the next Republican Christian will snap and blow up an abortion clinic or shoot an abortion doctor in the head. Savages.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Being a muslim, she only shows her ankles though..... It's easier to hide her AK-47 under her burka when she goes out to the night clubs. ;) :2razz:
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I have a good friend who wears long pants and shirt at all times. Most of my other Muslim friends are quite westernized. For some reason, they don't get the whole AK-47 thing. :shrug:
 
Laila said:
Yes I know. But I doubt Islam plays a factor in why the Saudi royals are still in power ... I think that is due to the West's support of the regime

Why would I accept that?
And what exactly am I supposed to do?
Anyone who thinks I am going to be a crusader against the extremist and somehow magically kill them all can go bugger off.
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So you are saying that a bunch of Bedouins who were made royalty by Standard Oil Co. justifies a racist interpretation of a religion that over its lifespan has been at odds with the Jew or the Kafir?
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm sorry, but haven't the religious right for years upon years been saying that Abortion is the "genocide" of the unborn and mass murder.........?
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I call it a holocost. Religion has nothing to do with it. But I digress.... ;)
 
reefedjib said:
I have a good friend who wears long pants and shirt at all times. Most of my other Muslim friends are quite westernized. For some reason, they don't get the whole AK-47 thing. :shrug:
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Give it time reef...one day the seed will become a sprout and the sprout will become a bomb vest. It's destiny. Islam commands it.
 
Laila said:
Yes I know. But I doubt Islam plays a factor in why the Saudi royals are still in power ... I think that is due to the West's support of the regime

Why would I accept that?
And what exactly am I supposed to do?
Anyone who thinks I am going to be a crusader against the extremist and somehow magically kill them all can go bugger off.
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Years ago when Hasan was taking ROTC (and his family advised him not to do it) he was Westernized, too. Yet, one day the seed took root and grew until he snapped.
 
The silenced majority said:
So you are saying that a bunch of Bedouins who were made royalty by Standard Oil Co. justifies a racist interpretation of a religion that over its lifespan has been at odds with the Jew or the Kafir?
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I'm sorry what? :shock:
Where did you get that conclusion from? Not my post that is for sure.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Bro an AK-47 is a gun, not a bomb vest. :2razz:
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AK-47, bomb vest, VBIED...what would I know. I'm just limp wristed leftist librul puke who has no idea what goes on outside his house and is in complete denial of the "Truth About Islam." (C)

:mrgreen:
 
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