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12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

Since he is alive I wonder how long until the Usurper invites him to the White House to congratulate him for his action against America?

Way to go jackass I just report you to the Mods hope they sdend you packing sooner then later. Fxcking Troll
 
Reading the latest article on it gave me all the info. I needed. All of this speculation about his Muslim heritage based on his name and his motivations are conjecture. I'm waiting til more facts are released.
 
Ahh.....okay, so talking out your ass by trying to use a scenario that is no where near alike but allows you to take political jabs at a group you dislike, despite that there was no actual evidence of who did it to the census worker while there is at the very least a good deal of evidence that a muslim did do this, though no concrete evidence as to WHY he did it yet.

Okay, that makes much more sense. The world is in order. Thanks. Thought I had missed a conclusion to the lynching thing

Hey the guy was taking swipes a muslims...basing his assumptions on little known true facts..I was just pointing out that it is not just muslims that can fall under such suspicions reguarding recent violence. Using just little known facts. It can work both ways.

That's all Zyph......:shrug:
 
The rest of your statement was a mere disclaimer to what your actual beliefs are. If you haven't the courage to state it without carefuly constructing a way to pass off moral superiority to those who do have enough courage to state (after enough study and real world experience) what they believe, then perhaps being a spectator suits you better.

Its not a disclaimer, its that I'm not a reactionary baffoon who wants to start pushing for extreme measures not because they honestly believe that's what needs to be done due to this situation but because it fits their political philosophy's and personal agendas and they're manipulating and using the deaths of these soldiers for their own good.

If we did what you're suggesting GySgt we'd have rounded up muslims and put them in internment camps immediately following the recent museum shootings because people who just had a political agenda IMMEDIATELY suggested it would be a Muslim and immediately started launching into their rhetoric then.

I have no problem stating opinions that aren't PC or aren't popular. I've routinely done it on these forums, from the patriot act to abortion to gay marriage to how to execute these wars to hell supporting these words to having legitimate discussion of racial stereotypes and onwards. Get off this bull**** you're trying to spew with your attempts at superiority over people because of your own service and that anyone that doesn't want to think like you is afraid to say what they feel.

I think its LIKELY that his religion affected it. That's all. I don't have proof. I don't have full confidence in that belief definitely being true. I don't believe that means its anything grander than just one lone lunatic religious person. I don't think that its such a pervasive thing that we need to have a "pure bred" military, etc. And I'm not GOING to have those feelings based on the barely credibly evidence we have this far.

Jesus ****ing christ.

Do you suggest that Cops should go forward and shoot to kill individuals because they happen to be the same race as someone that was just reported to have robbed a store and they're in a 3 block radius of the place if they at least think it MAY be him? Do you think we should look people away for life because we think it MAY be them but we have no real proof of it?

Sorry, I know this may harm your sensible little feelings that everyone must act immediately on the littlest of views when it suits your agenda, but I actually like this thing called...evidence...at least a DECENT shred of it...before I start calling for the internment of citizens of this country. Maybe I'm crazy like that.
 
Since he is alive I wonder how long until the Usurper invites him to the White House to congratulate him for his action against America?

Dude, really? There's plenty of criticisms to go around about things without driving off the deep end.
 
Dude, really? There's plenty of criticisms to go around about things without driving off the deep end.
Remember that the man sitting in the Oval Office is not only a Usurper but also a Muslim whos ideology is the same as this radical who pulled this stunt today. They have common beliefs that are harmful to this nation.
 
If we did what you're suggesting GySgt ......

I didn't suggest anything. I merely showed him where this occured in our past and that it is a moral dilemma.

.... Get off this bull**** you're trying to spew with your attempts at superiority over people...

...Jesus ****ing christ....

Control thyself. Perhaps you should accuse the right people before you lash about.
 
Remember that the man sitting in the Oval Office is not only a Usurper but also a Muslim whos ideology is the same as this radical who pulled this stunt today. They have common beliefs that are harmful to this nation.

Yeah and Bush's election was rigged. I've heard the argument against the politician we don't like before.
 
CNN say he isn't talking and probably the reason why is since he didn't want to go to Iraq and is anti-war he is counting on the liberal jewish backed ( A fact) ACLU attorneys to show up to defend him.
 
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I didn't suggest anything. I merely showed him where this occured in our past and that it is a moral dilemma.

Control thyself. Perhaps you should accuse the right people before you lash about.

Your suggesting I don't talk and tell people they shouldn't be jumping to these huge conclusions, such as Pure Bred only military, on such little evidence because they have courage to say what they really feel where as I'm just trying to qualify it. That's what I'm talking about that you're suggesting.

I have zero problem with people that have legitimate, realistic, facts and are talking about the actual, legitimate facts and making relatively rational and not extreme leaps of logic from those actual facts. That's not what happening in this thread. People are taking some information from a cousin while ignoring his other info, and taking some information from a Col. while ignoring his other info, and then jumping to extreme suggestions and statements and beliefs about the situation. That's not courage, that's idiocy.

That said, yes, my issue is far more with others in this thread other than yours. You just happened to have made a point that was somewhat relevant to the over arching comment I was making originally so it got quoted, more as a reference to something I said in my post than an over arching target.
 
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CNN say he isn't talking and probably the reason why is since he didn't want to go to Iraq and is anti-war...

See? The simple basic rational answer people can live with. Eventually, he'll talk. Someone who slaughters his own people like this expected to be killed for his effort and he will not have come all this way to remain silent. He will try to justify his act.
 
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CNN say he isn't talking and probably the reason why is since he didn't want to go to Iraq and is anti-war he is counting on the liberal jewish backed ( A fact) ACLU attorneys to show up to defend him.

You do a lot to advance your cause with your most excellent statements... :rolleyes:
 
Your suggesting I don't talk and tell people they shouldn't be jumping to these huge conclusions....

I'm suggesting that you preach to them without lumping my post in, which didn't call for anything that you accused me of.
 
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I guess everyone's aware now that the shooter is still alive?
I'd been thinking he was dead all this time.
Apparently that was a mistake; he's alive, and simply wounded (not critically, apparently).
I just read that this second.
 
I guess everyone's aware now that the shooter is still alive?
I'd been thinking he was dead all this time.
Apparently that was a mistake; he's alive, and simply wounded (not critically, apparently).
I just read that this second.

Yep and he's in BIG trouble, for sure...
 
I guess everyone's aware now that the shooter is still alive?
I'd been thinking he was dead all this time.
Apparently that was a mistake; he's alive, and simply wounded (not critically, apparently).
I just read that this second.
Journalism has gone out the window. The MSM only does what Obama dictates to them.
 
I guess everyone's aware now that the shooter is still alive?
I'd been thinking he was dead all this time.
Apparently that was a mistake; he's alive, and simply wounded (not critically, apparently).
I just read that this second.

Yeah, I can't believe the General would state otherwise to the media. He'll be talked to by his fellow Generals about PR.
 
See? The simple basic rational answer people can live with. Eventually, he'll talk. Someone who slaughters his own people like this expected to be killed for his effort and he will not have come all this way to remain silent. He will try to justify his act.

I agree with you in general here. He fully expected to likely suicide by cop (or well, military cop) and is now trying to justify. I think his reasoning will come out at some point, likely when it finally truly hits him he's going to be executed for this and whatever he says won't really matter.

Journalism has gone out the window. The MSM only does what Obama dictates to them.

Yeah, those idiot journalists, trusting what the General told them

:roll:
 
Just heard Michael Savage say since Pelosi will ask to get Obamas Health Care passed this Saturday and that this attack is just what the White House needed because the MSM will be focused on the events of today and Pelosi can get his Obamacare passed under the radar.Sounds logical.
 
Just heard Michael Savage say since Pelosi will ask to get Obamas Health Care passed this Saturday and that this attack is just what the White House needed because the MSM will be focused on the events of today and Pelosi can get his Obamacare passed under the radar.Sounds logical.

Oh no - we can all multi task just like Bama.
 
Just heard Michael Savage say since Pelosi will ask to get Obamas Health Care passed this Saturday and that this attack is just what the White House needed because the MSM will be focused on the events of today and Pelosi can get his Obamacare passed under the radar.Sounds logical.

Ohhhh... so Obama put him up to it.
Now it all makes sense; both of them being radical Muslims and all.
I'm sure they know each other from way back.
Probably attended the same madrasah.

/ sarcasm.
 
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