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12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

And, good for you, sport. You asked what made me believe what I believe and i told you. I might be wrong, but then again, I might not. I will admit, that if this dude did all the shooting, he's probably the best pistol shooter in the world.

If he had high capacity magazines and no one else arounf him was armed or could not get a clear sh0t off and the targets were in a bunch, yes I can see it.
 
And, good for you, sport. You asked what made me believe what I believe and i told you. I might be wrong, but then again, I might not. I will admit, that if this dude did all the shooting, he's probably the best pistol shooter in the world.

With all of this great valid information that you are contributing adpst..tell us how much time did he take to do this?
 
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Thanks for that but he's never served overseas and was raised in America.

In his case, PTSD has nothing to do with it. Maybe an autopsy will reveal a very painful ingrown toe nail.
 
With all of this great valid information that you are contrubuting adpst..tell us how much time did he take to do this?

Other questions:

Was there a glint of evil in his eye as he fired the first shot?
What did he have for breakfast?
What was the last word he spoke before he died?

I mean, if we're going to play the "let me make authoritative claims about **** I know nothing about" game, let's go for the gold.
 
I don't think it's 'bull****' to state the obvious. Most Jews sympathize with Israel, most Muslims identify with their coreligionists. People have their allegiances.
 
With all of this great valid information that you are contributing adpst..tell us how much time did he take to do this?

I have an idea. How 'bout you give us some information that would support you contention that this guy did all the shooting?
 
This guy could have been a rogue or part of one of many radical sleeper cells within America that Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said we had a few months back. These people are unpredictable and can strike at any moment like today. The liberal MSM will down play this as a single act instead of telling the possible real truth. The illegal Usurpers propaganda machine is at work.
 
I have an idea. How 'bout you give us some information that would support you contention that this guy did all the shooting?

The general who gave the news conference said there was just one shooter. :doh
 
This guy could have been a rogue or part of one of many radical sleeper cells within America that Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said we had a few months back. These people are unpredictable and can strike at any moment like today. The liberal MSM will down play this as a single act instead of telling the possible real truth. The illegal Usurpers propaganda machine is at work.


*pulls map out of back pocket and searches for directions to conspiracy cove*
 
So there is a standard written protocal to follow for all people who react to their breaking points?

Or is it "different strokes for different folks"?

This is a naive way to explain away what occurred. I guess Hitler had a "breaking point" too.

If his "breaking point" was to slaughter his own people in uniform then he was not a conscientious objector. Or is it fashionable for a tree hugger to "break" and burn down a forest?

It's not logical at all.
 
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I have an idea. How 'bout you give us some information that would support you contention that this guy did all the shooting?

He probably did do all the shooting, dude.
 
I don't think it's 'bull****' to state the obvious. Most Jews sympathize with Israel, most Muslims identify with their coreligionists. People have their allegiances.

Link? You're literally making this **** up as you go along.

Further, there's a difference between having an affinity for the nation of your background and actually supporting the actions of terrorists.

I have an idea. How 'bout you give us some information that would support you contention that this guy did all the shooting?

Every single source out there has been saying for the past few hours that this guy was the only shooter. There were originally eyewitness reports that the two others were involved, but officials interviewed them and then left them go.
 
I have an idea. How 'bout you give us some information that would support you contention that this guy did all the shooting?

So you haven't been keeping up with the news?

The Base General has said that it was a lone shooter...."THE SHOOTER".

That is what he said specifically.
 
I don't have a link. I have an opinion.
 
This is a naive way to explain away what occurred. I guess Hitler had a "breaking point" too.

If his "breaking point" was to slaughter his own people in uniform then he was not a conscientious objector. Or is it fashionable for a tree hugger to "break" and burn down a forest?

It's not logical at all.

So everybody reacts to stress and their breaking point the same predicable way?
 
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This guy could have been a rogue or part of one of many radical sleeper cells within America that Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said we had a few months back. These people are unpredictable and can strike at any moment like today. The liberal MSM will down play this as a single act instead of telling the possible real truth. The illegal Usurpers propaganda machine is at work.

Good point. He also could have been a Soviet operative here on a top secret mission. Better safe than sorry.


I don't think anyone has claimed that religion had nothing to do with this. What people have said is that it's idiotic to make claims before the facts come out.

If that stuff is true, then that probably had a part to play in this whole thing. I'm sure we'll find out plenty more in the coming days.
 
Man - heard about this on the way home tonight. Major -- Dr. --- Muslim apparently --- 11 killed. I don't know... how did this not get noticed?
 
Man - heard about this on the way home tonight. Major -- Dr. --- Muslim apparently --- 11 killed. I don't know... how did this not get noticed?


Body count is up to 13, I think :(
 
Sounds like questions that people were raising about Japanese Americans during WW2.

Your right it does.............Not sure how many Japanese Americans killed the fellow soldiers though....A little difference I would say.........
 
And with all due respect, it's pretty dumb to make sweeping statements about entire religions based on an opinion.
I don't think it's dumb. I think it's dumb to not realize the obvious and predictable because of political correctness.
 
I don't think it's dumb. I think it's dumb to not realize the obvious and predictable because of political correctness.

And what are you basing your claim that this is "obvious and predictable" on?
 
So why don't you wait until they do and then point out how they're wrong?



There's nothing yet to show that he was a Muslim convert.


Yes, and it's absolutely impossible that he reloaded. Great point.

I heard his cousin on FOX today and he said that he was born a Muslim.........
 
I just want to say that I'm amazingly surprised and respecting of the fact that Bhkad has shown a GREAT example here for all extreme conservatives to follow to focus on the FACTS and not begin to leap to conclusions until they' came about.

Could this be religiously motivated? Sure.
Some kind of disorder? Sure.
Some other dozen factors we don't know about now because its been six hours? Sure.

Even Fox, which is a bastion of conservatism, was trying to be responsible journalists (and this was a shining example for those that claim other wise) trying to focus simply on the FACTS, not leap to conclusions, and even predicated the Col.'s statements that much was 3rd party and not verified yet.

His cousin says he's born a muslim. He also says he's a good american that never harbored ill fillings. You can't take one of the cousins statements and use it as gospel truth while ALSO ignoring the other part. The Col. said he was a convert, but said he harbored anti-american feelings. Again, you can't take part of what he says as gospel truth and ignore the other. Navy Pride and others that are doing that are being nothing but foolishly reactionary in this singular particular instance instead of actually getting FACTS. This is no different than any other type situation, like the Museum shooting recently, where people ASSUME they know what the truth is based on information that comes out within the first 6 hours when in reality within a day or two the picture generally looks different OR if it looks like what some are saying there's actual PROOF of some sort to it.

Wait for that proof, and deal with facts people.
 
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