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12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

David Duke is Right said:
This event today proves that these people are dangerous in our military. They need to be removed. How many middle eastern countries will allow Americans in their Military to serve a career? Does Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lybia etc? The answer is no.
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The guy was an American. American =/= a religion. Your analogy is ****.

The proper analogy would be "How many middle eastern countries will allow Christians in their military?" The answer is "most of them."

fail
 
actually, when cair made its comments, so out of character, cynics such as myself suspected the worst

such an ugly, in so many ways, and complicated world
 
David Duke is Right said:
This event today proves that these people are dangerous in our military. They need to be removed. How many middle eastern countries will allow Americans in their Military to serve a career? Does Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lybia etc? The answer is no.
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The sick piece of garbage was born in the USA. So you question / statement about middle eastern countries allowing Americans in their Military does not even belong in this issue.
 
I heard that the FBI had "investigat d" some nasty crap he wrote on the Internets about suicide attacks etc. MSNBC was the source so maybe that is subject to questioning..
 
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RightinNYC said:
And you're basing this on...?

Believe it or not, I'm gonna go with the general at the base who says all the shooting was done by this one individual.
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I'm basing it on my belief that he didn't have the time to score 43 hits, even with two pistols.
 
F107HyperSabr said:
The sick piece of garbage was born in the USA. So you question / statement about middle eastern countries allowing Americans in their Military does not even belong in this issue.
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What America needs is a military made up with pure bred Natural Born Citizens whos parents were born here as well.
 
apdst said:
I'm basing it on my belief that he didn't have the time to score 43 hits, even with two pistols.
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How long does it take for a praticed gunman to reload adpst? 4 maybe 5 seconds if that?
 
How many middle eastern countries will allow Americans in their Military to serve a career?
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All of them, probably.
Like us, they accept converts who evince a sincere desire to join.

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What about John Walker Lindh, Bryant Neal Vinas, and dozens of other young Americans who have for whatever reason been compelled to convert and travel abroad to join the insurgents?
 
David Duke is Right said:
This event today proves that these people are dangerous in our military. They need to be removed. How many middle eastern countries will allow Americans in their Military to serve a career? Does Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lybia etc? The answer is no.
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Well, what you suggest has a history. When the Japanese attacked, our government rounded up the Japanese and people of immediate Japanese decent and treated them as the enemy. The Japanese in the military ranks were also addressed. People today, scoff at what we did. Since the Gulf War, we have seen the risk in allowing people "of our enemy" in the ranks. We have seen the terrorist plots within our home land from people allowed to roam free.

It's a moral dilemma. The day may come one day where our image no longer trumps the preservation of our lives.
 
apdst said:
I'm basing it on my belief that he didn't have the time to score 43 hits, even with two pistols.
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Then I'll give you the same advice I gave David Duke up above:

Why don't you give them a call and tell them this critical information that you've deduced? I'm sure it will be of great use in correcting their mistaken statements.
 
David Duke is Right said:
What America needs is a military made up with pure bred Natural Born Citizens whos parents were born here as well.
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wtf is a pure bred natural born citizen, and why would our military be better off if we threw the constitution out the window w/ regard to who can serve in the military?


EWWWWWWW:2sick1::screwy:cuckoo:
 
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David Duke is Right said:
What America needs is a military made up with pure bred Natural Born Citizens whos parents were born here as well.
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What an idiotic statement. So you would not have allowed me to serve in Vietnam or the USAF if you had your way. You see I am an American by choice and not by accident of birth.
 
GySgt said:
Well, what you suggest has a history. When the Japanese attacked, our government rounded up the Japanese and people of immediate Japanese decent and treated them as the enemy. The Japanese in the military ranks were also addressed. People today, scoff at what we did. Since the Gulf War, we have seen the risk in allowing people "of our enemy" in the ranks. We have seen the terrorist plots within our home land from people allowed to roam free.

It's a moral dilemma. The day may come one day where our image no longer trumps the preservation of our lives.
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What happened today is a result of the liberal Political Correctness that has swept the nation and is tearing in apart.
 
goldendog said:
How long does it take for a praticed gunman to reload adpst? 4 maybe 5 seconds if that?
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To score 43 hits? Longer than that, and that's a world class shooter.
 
jackalope said:
wtf is a pure bred natural born citizen, and why would our military be better off if we threw the constitution out the window w/ regard to who can serve in the military?


EWWWWWWW
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I think he's talking about citizens that are 100% native Americans.

Others certainly wouldn't qualify as "Pure Bred".
 
goldendog said:
Do people have a breaking point?
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The breaking point is to go AWOL or UA. Some in our history have demonstrated that breaking point by heading to north to Canada. But to murder your own?

This wasn't about any breaking point. And he was no objector. If this was a war against the Koreans or the Japanese or the Germans or the Buffalo Zing Zing Tribe, or Martians (basically anybody but other Muslims), we wouldn't even know his name.
 
RightinNYC said:
Then I'll give you the same advice I gave David Duke up above:

Why don't you give them a call and tell them this critical information that you've deduced? I'm sure it will be of great use in correcting their mistaken statements.
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absolutely, now is the time for calm

for instance, allegations that hasan did NOT act alone are certainly premature

it doesn't look that way, as of now

it plainly appears the sadsack nutball was a loner

but we shall almost certainly see, in time

actually, for the mature ALWAYS is the time for calm

peace, friends of all persuasions

so much sadness in the world

cliff
 
RightinNYC said:
Then I'll give you the same advice I gave David Duke up above:

Why don't you give them a call and tell them this critical information that you've deduced? I'm sure it will be of great use in correcting their mistaken statements.
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So, I can't form an opinion?
 
GySgt said:
The breaking point is to go AWOL or UA. Some in our history have demonstrated that breaking point by heading to north to Canada. But to murder your own?

This wasn't about any breaking point. And he was no objector. If this was a war against the Koreans or the Japanese or the Germans or the Buffalo Zing Zing Tribe, or Martians (basically anybody but other Muslims), we wouldn't even know his name.
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So there is a standard written protocal to follow for all people who react to their breaking points?

Or is it "different strokes for different folks"?
 
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David Duke is Right said:
What happened today is a result of the liberal Political Correctness that has swept the nation and is tearing in apart.
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Yes, political correctness is what put the gun in that guy's hand and make him pull the trigger.

apdst said:
So, I can't form an opinion?
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You can form all the opinions you want, just like I can point out that they're based on absolutely nothing and are contrary to everything that's been reported.
 
GySgt said:
You can get PTSD without serving in combat.

Waking to the noise of distant explosions repeatldy through a series of nights to weeks may affect you differently than it would me. A firefight may affect you differently than me. Ghastly and horrific sights may affect you differently than it would me.

The fact is that most troops feel a sense of PTSD to some degree. The vast majority get over it easy enough, but some may continue to have dreams or creeping thoughts. Few actually have the type of PTSD most people define it as. And lots think PTSD is an excuse for failure long after they've left the battle.
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Thanks for that but he's never served overseas and was raised in America.
 
RightinNYC said:
You can form all the opinions you want, just like I can point out that they're based on absolutely nothing and are contrary to everything that's been reported.
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And, good for you, sport. You asked what made me believe what I believe and i told you. I might be wrong, but then again, I might not. I will admit, that if this dude did all the shooting, he's probably the best pistol shooter in the world.
 
RightinNYC said:
What, pray tell, makes someone "pure bred"?
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Free, White, and 21, Southern and votes Republican. That should pretty much do it !!! Excuse me now since I have to puke for the second time today. First time was when I heard about this attack on Fort Hood the second time was when I read David Dukes posts.

PS Yes I am completely disgusted with Dukes attitude and no Southeners and Republicans are not all like Duke but I am sick over this story and absolutley disgusted that I actually put my life on the line for the likes of a Duke type who just hates for the sake of hatred.
 
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David Duke is Right said:
What happened today is a result of the liberal Political Correctness that has swept the nation and is tearing in apart.
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Well, Muslims were in the ranks under Republican figures as well. This Major knew president Bush and Clinton as Commanders-in-Chief. Far be it from me to defend a leftist and to some extent simple liberals, but this is not a liberal issue.
 
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