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Arch Enemy said:
Well, my friend, then you must remain in your coma of ignorance. Because you hate them won't make them go away.

The situation in G.B. will change whenever the more conservative party wins the election; that's how G.B. works, within one term the entire outward appearance can change.

I don't know who is telling you these boogey man stories, but there will not be any Sharia Law in the United States any time soon. You should be more worried about the implications of transnationalism, as that's going to be a whole new beast.
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Maybe I spend to much time reading Robert Spencer's Jihad Watch

Its opinion based on actual news stories

And I also read http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
 
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I don't have to look for a reason to hate islam. I do however have to seperate my hatred for islam from the muslim.
 
Why are we fearing these people, I just do not understand?:confused:
 
Arch Enemy said:
Really?

Without Islam there is no Muslim. You cannot separate the Islam from the Muslim. It's ridiculous and pointless to argue otherwise.
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So, it's impossile to hate the religion without hating the people too? Surely you dont believe that?
 
Arch Enemy said:
Really?

Without Islam there is no Muslim. You cannot separate the Islam from the Muslim. It's ridiculous and pointless to argue otherwise.
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You can take a Muslim out of Islam, but you can't take the Islam out of the Muslim!

ZING!
 
apdst said:
So, it's impossile to hate the religion without hating the people too? Surely you dont believe that?
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If you take the Islam away, then they're just Arabs, or Persians, or Turks, or Russians, or Uzbeks, or Americans, or Sudanese...

You get the picture.
 
EpicDude86 said:
You can take a Muslim out of Islam, but you can't take the Islam out of the Muslim!

ZING!
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Damn, you joined the forum this month and you already have 957 post. Independent Thinker beter watch out EpicDude is going to pass him by MArch at this rate.
 
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Jackboot said:
Why are we fearing these people, I just do not understand?:confused:
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People said that in Germany in the 30's; Russia in 1917...

Ask the Armenians why they don't like Muslims. Hindus, Christians, Chinese, Indians, Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs, Jews. They've all been slaughtered by the Muslims. Who do you think ran the death camps in the balkans?
 
Arch Enemy said:
If you take the Islam away, then they're just Arabs, or Persians, or Turks, or Russians, or Uzbeks, or Americans, or Sudanese...

You get the picture.
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All the more reason to do so.
 
apdst said:
People said that in Germany in the 30's; Russia in 1917...

Ask the Armenians why they don't like Muslims. Hindus, Christians, Chinese, Indians, Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs, Jews. They've all been slaughtered by the Muslims. Who do you think ran the death camps in the balkans?
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Armenian Genocide had nothing to do with religion.
Armenians hold grudges against Turks, not Muslims.
 
Arch Enemy said:
Armenian Genocide had nothing to do with religion.
Armenians hold grudges against Turks, not Muslims.
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So, it's just a coincidence that the Turks are Muslims?
 
In Arabic “al-Islam” is the religion while “Muslim” is a person professing Islam. In English usage, “Islamic” seems to be more abstract, while “Muslim” refers to the people professing Islam.
Whether you are a Christian or not I would suggest that you take a page from Christian beliefs, and hate the sin and not the sinner. Don't lump all Muslims in with terrorists any more than you would like all white people tied to Jeffery Dalmer or John Wayne Gacy.
There are extremists in every religion and it would be nice if the moderates in the Mosques would do just a bit of self policing. It might save some lives some day, and maybe their own.
I keep hearing the BS that Islam is a religion of peace. Well if that's true being a Muslim makes some people terrorists because of interpretations of mentally challenged teachers at the Mosque.
 
Arch Enemy said:
Not all Turks are Muslims.


Why do you fail to comprehend this?
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How did this debate veer off into discussing this??

Who cares?? (Beyond those of that country and all)
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Wouldn't you guys feel kinda dumb, if this guy just freaked out cause of something like prozac side-effects, and had nothing to do with really anything about race in any way??
 
BmanMcfly said:
How did this debate veer off into discussing this??

Who cares?? (Beyond those of that country and all)
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Wouldn't you guys feel kinda dumb, if this guy just freaked out cause of something like prozac side-effects, and had nothing to do with really anything about race in any way??
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Is Epic Dude gonna have to draw another Venn Diagram up in this piece?
 
apdst said:
People said that in Germany in the 30's; Russia in 1917...

Ask the Armenians why they don't like Muslims. Hindus, Christians, Chinese, Indians, Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs, Jews. They've all been slaughtered by the Muslims. Who do you think ran the death camps in the balkans?
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But not all muslims are the same, and I am aware of certain countries that are using this religion to advance political agendas.....but let us all not single them out.
 
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