Elena
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You ask the wrong questions.
So there will be no answers from you. I thought so.
You ask the wrong questions.
I think it's you who don't know your history.
You really buy into this "The North went to war with the South to free the slaves" crap? If that so, why slavery was legal in the North up until the END of the war?
No, your civil war was about the piss-poor Nothern states denying the rich and abundant in labour Southern states their rights to leave the union. You see, without the South the North was destined to struggle for decades to come, and the North didn't like the prospect.
So there will be no answers from you. I thought so.
Fifty three percent. Compare that to what would have happened ten years ago and this is good news. Ten years from now, they will no longer have a majority.
This is only bad news if you believe that it is necessary for gay marriage to be legalized now. No matter how much I would like certain policies to become law, I believe that it is best for social institutions to change slowly, at a pace that the public can easily tolerate. Rapid, unpopular changes lead to public backlash and regression.
HAHAH, no the opposite.
But the debate in the US (like it was in Europe) has been hijacked by especially the radical religious right and together with the radical gay movement, it has turned into something that it, it is in reality not.
You mentioned government contracts, not me. You stated marriage is nothing but a government approved contract. I'm asking why I cannot enter into this contract with my sister.
Majority
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Plurality win for candidate A. :2wave:
Good! So, can I say "A was voted by a majority of people?" or "A was voted by a plurality of people?"
And two of my opponents said that it's both...
How long have you lived in the United States?....just curious
Yes they are getting older do you live in Maine???
Over the past 10 Years the Population of Maine has been getting smaller. In 2000 we had around 1.6 Million Living in the State we are now down to around 1.2 Million and of these over 45% of them are over the age of 45. The highest # of folks leaving and not returning are the age groups between 18-25. Maine Ranks in the top 10% of folks entering the US Military per popultaion, also for per population Maine is one of the highest in folks under the age of 30 moving and never returning to the State.
Maine is a republican State if you take out Portland and Lewiston-Auburn Population between then they make up 1/3 of the States Population and are the two biggest Blue area in the State.
Maine once again displayed it status as a blue state, with Democrat Barack Obama taking the state with 57.71% of the vote and a difference of 126,650 votes. Maine has voted Democratic since 1992 and is the only state other than Nebraska to split its electoral votes, though it has not yet done so.
It is also the only state in New England where a county voted for Republican John McCain, with Piscataquis County giving McCain roughly 50.7% of the vote.
In the 1960s, Maine began to lean toward the Democrats, especially in Presidential elections. In 1968, Hubert Humphrey became just the second Democrat in half a century to carry Maine thanks to the presence of his running mate, Maine Senator Edmund Muskie, although the state voted Republican in every Presidential election in the 1970s and 1980s. Maine has since become a left-leaning swing state and has voted Democratic in five successive Presidential elections, casting its votes for Bill Clinton twice, Al Gore in 2000, John Kerry (with 53.6% of the vote) in 2004, and Barack Obama in 2008. Republican strength is greatest in Washington and Piscataquis counties. Though Democrats have carried the state in presidential elections in recent years, Republicans have largely maintained their control of the state's U.S. Senate seats, with Ed Muskie, William Hathaway and George Mitchell being the only Maine Democrats serving in the U.S. Senate in the past fifty years.
Hmm a Blue State since the 80s really let see 1980 went for Mr. Reagan 1984 went again for Mr. Reagan in 1988 went for Mr. Bush Sr. in 1992 went for Mr. Perot in 1996 went for Mr. Clinton in 2000 split down the middle for both Mr. Bush and Mr. Gore in 2004 it went for Mr. Bush Jr. barely and in 2008 for Mr. Obama.
Ross Perot achieved a great deal of success in Maine in the presidential elections of 1992 and 1996. In 1992 as an independent candidate, Perot came in second to Bill Clinton, despite the longtime presence of the Bush family summer home in Kennebunkport. In 1996, as the nominee of the Reform Party, Maine was again Perot's best state.
Good! So, can I say "A was voted by a majority of people?" or "A was voted by a plurality of people?"
You don't have "opponents" just bad math skills.
So Elena,
You really want to talk about the US Civil War and it's History then fine let do it. What shall we discuss .
Maine is a republican State if you take out Portland and Lewiston-Auburn Population between then they make up 1/3 of the States Population and are the two biggest Blue area in the State.
As I said before, gay, single, and non-married people have all the capabilties to contract the same things covered by state marriage contracts. You couldn't list one thing that wasn't.
The only difference is that hetero couples are given an expediant process via the government which was enacted through LEGISLATION. Hetero couples do not have to use this.
If non-hetero people wish to have the same expediant process then they need to contact their local representative or start a propisition to have it LEGISLATED.
Its not a RIGHT to have the process expediant.
It was clearly stated several times that by definition that is a plurality win without majority.
You don't have "opponents" just bad math skills.
No, you cannot say that candidate A was voted by a majority of people. Half is not a majority. Half plus one, is a majority. As stated, candidate A in your scenario is a plurality win.
That was not the question.
Can I say: "A was voted in by a majority of people", or "A was voted in by a plurality of people"?
Yes, Ikari, it was you who said "both". Is 3 out of 5 "both", as you put it, or a majority?
That was not the question.
Can I say: "A was voted in by a majority of people", or "A was voted in by a plurality of people"?
Yes, Ikari, it was you who said "both". Is 3 out of 5 "both", as you put it, or a majority?
You know I wonder how many people that could vote voted? You know what I am saying. Most of the times, voter turnout for state issues is lower than 30% of the registered voters. I really believe most people don't care about gay marriage, and that most would not be bothered by having gay couples living next door to them.
So what I am saying is that social institutions are rarely representative of the majority. Because the majority don't care therefore gay marriage should be legal. But the government is full of extremists because that is what the voters vote for.
for the 3/5 it's both,
A majority is defined as 50%+1 vote.
A plurality is defined as the most number of votes garnered by one candidate in a three-way or greater contest, when that number is less than 50%.
Three outta five is majority, and not a plurality.