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Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right

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I like that both sides suck so bad, neither could get to over 50%.

What sucks is a good portion of the people fail to understand the greatness of America and its founding. The foundation we are built upon. Liberty.

With the radical Dems (Socialists of America Party... SAPs) as opposition, we should ensure double digit victory margins throughout the land.

Sad to see such waves of ignorance.

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What sucks is a good portion of the people fail to understand the greatness of America and its founding. The foundation we are built upon. Liberty.

With the radical Dems (Socialists of America Party... SAPs) as opposition, we should ensure double digit victory margins throughout the land.

Sad to see such waves of ignorance.

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It's probably due to the fact that the GOP is not for upholding the foundations of freedom and liberty either. What's sad is that people can't see that the Republocrats are a huge danger to the Republic.
 
The guy they elected, I am reading, while a democrat is a fiscal conservative, a small business owner and a former AF officer....


Pretty strong canidate compared to the mess the republicans created.

BTW REv....how is that New GOP plan going?
 
BTW REv....how is that New GOP plan going?

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 28% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13. That’s just one point above the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President

It's going excellent thank you.
 
It's going excellent thank you.

Seriously?.....

The New GOP couldn't even win a race in a district that they have held for decades.

What chance do you think they have in expanding this new Conservative agenda to the nation?:doh
 
Huge defeat for the GOPs new "shun the moderates" strategy. Couldn't even work in a largely conservative district. Hopefully they won't learn their lesson.
Go Palin 2012!

How is this a huge defeat? It's one seat. Did you see how the rest of the elections turned out last night?

And umm...the whole shun the moderates strategy...the GOP is taking that one right from the Democrat playbook. The chapter that covers 1972 when the democrats pushed the party to the extreme left to try to purge moderates. They ended up propping up George McGovern who is inarguably one of the most liberal candidates EVER. And they lost to Nixon.

And guess what? The Democrats are still around almost 40 years later just like the GOP will still be around.

Politics is a cycle. Nothing more.
 
How is this a huge defeat? It's one seat. Did you see how the rest of the elections turned out last night?

And umm...the whole shun the moderates strategy...the GOP is taking that one right from the Democrat playbook. The chapter that covers 1972 when the democrats pushed the party to the extreme left to try to purge moderates. They ended up propping up George McGovern who is inarguably one of the most liberal candidates EVER. And they lost to Nixon.

And guess what? The Democrats are still around almost 40 years later just like the GOP will still be around.

Politics is a cycle. Nothing more.


It was a HUGE defeat for the Palin/Limbaugh/Beck wing of the GOP. They want to spread their agenda to the nation as a whole....but couldn't even win in a largely conservative district that the GOP has held for decades.

True....defeats in the two Governor races is a disturbing sign for Democrats as well....but if you look across the nation, Democrats picked up more seats overall than Republicans. So it was kind of a wash either way. Good signs for both....bad signs for both....but IMHO.....really bad news for any hope that the New GOP strategy is going to succeed if they don't learn their lesson from this.
 
Yes and global warming is just a natural cycle also......:mrgreen:
 
I also think it's funny that those candidates that tried to rely on BHO to carry their campaigns with his popularity found that his politcal cult of personality doesn't transfer.

Which is gonna be really fun moving forward because candidates within the Democratic party are now less inclined to move with Pelosi, Reid, and Barry instead of their constituents. It's been proven that little Barry has nothing to offer their campaigns so there's no reason to sell out to help him keep high approval ratings. The Dems found out in virginia, at least, that it really is every man for himself and now the triumvirate is gonna have a hard time keeping the troops in rank and file. Buh bye public option. :lol:

It's what happens every time the dems get power for a minute. They cannibalize each other. Let the games begin leading up to the mid-term.
 
Politics is a cycle. Nothing more.

You are correct in one thing though Jall.....the GOP can rebound. However, they aren't going to rebound if they think they can sell this New GOP/Shun the moderates strategy. Personally.....I hope they try.
 
This is the only high point and it is being over stated by the left. They are trying not to talk about the major Governors races they lost.

This contest was mired in confusion over the crazy actions of RINO Scozzafava abruptly withdrawing from the race and throwing support behind the Dim (no spell error).
To claim this as a Bow to Right if laughable in the face of the facts. Obama put all his power of persuasion behind Corzine who out spent his opponent 2 to 1 and still lost.

For the White House, Pelosi, and Lame Stream Obamaedia to claim victory is analogous to losing a war and saying: Well oh yea we killed private smith. It's just plain silly.
Obama and the rest of the Dims are in trouble and they are scrambling to come up with the right Saul Alenskey rule to cover the situtation. Oh yea they already did. It's the one where you claim victory after a major defeat.
 
This is the only high point and it is being over stated by the left. They are trying not to talk about the major Governors races they lost.

This contest was mired in confusion over the crazy actions of RINO Scozzafava abruptly withdrawing from the race and throwing support behind the Dim (no spell error).
To claim this as a Bow to Right if laughable in the face of the facts. Obama put all his power of persuasion behind Corzine who out spent his opponent 2 to 1 and still lost.

For the White House, Pelosi, and Lame Stream Obamaedia to claim victory is analogous to losing a war and saying: Well oh yea we killed private smith. It's just plain silly.
Obama and the rest of the Dims are in trouble and they are scrambling to come up with the right Saul Alenskey rule to cover the situtation. Oh yea they already did. It's the one where you claim victory after a major defeat.

Maybe its because there are other threads on that topic...but nice attempt to try to deflect the focus of this thread away from a HUGE failure of the new "Conservative" GOP. Thanks for playing though.
 
It was a HUGE defeat for the Palin/Limbaugh/Beck wing of the GOP. They want to spread their agenda to the nation as a whole....but couldn't even win in a largely conservative district that the GOP has held for decades.

True....defeats in the two Governor races is a disturbing sign for Democrats as well....but if you look across the nation, Democrats picked up more seats overall than Republicans. So it was kind of a wash either way. Good signs for both....bad signs for both....but IMHO.....really bad news for any hope that the New GOP strategy is going to succeed if they don't learn their lesson from this.

I'm not concerned at all. I think the real lesson from last night was that Democrats are gonna have to do three things to keep their place:

1) Realize that Barry ain't gonna help get them re-elected, no matter how many international commitments he shirks to go campaigning for them.

2) They are gonna have to create jobs, not just talk about creating jobs.

3) Control this spending and increasing debt problem they have.

If those don't happen, we are gonna have Republican control again and maybe, just maybe this travesty that's been going on for the past nine months will get cleaned up a bit.
 
You are correct in one thing though Jall.....the GOP can rebound. However, they aren't going to rebound if they think they can sell this New GOP/Shun the moderates strategy. Personally.....I hope they try.

Why not? It's what you guys did all through the late 60's into the race of '76 before you learned your lesson. And you guys seem to be doing ok today. :shrug:
 
I'm not concerned at all. I think the real lesson from last night was that Democrats are gonna have to do three things to keep their place:

1) Realize that Barry ain't gonna help get them re-elected, no matter how many international commitments he shirks to go campaigning for them.

2) They are gonna have to create jobs, not just talk about creating jobs.

3) Control this spending and increasing debt problem they have.

If those don't happen, we are gonna have Republican control again and maybe, just maybe this travesty that's been going on for the past nine months will get cleaned up a bit.

Rather optimistic coming out of an election where the best you can argue is a couple of governorship wins.

I do agree though that the Democrats stand to lose a few seats if we don't see big improvements over the next year....that is.....unless the New GOP continues to try to push this failed strategy of theirs.
 
Rather optimistic coming out of an election where the best you can argue is a couple of governorship wins.

I do agree though that the Democrats stand to lose a few seats if we don't see big improvements over the next year....that is.....unless the New GOP continues to try to push this failed strategy of theirs.

Uh-huh. A couple of governorship wins seems pretty unimpressive until you realize they were a couple of governorship wins, incumbent governors losing seats and seats being lost despite a high approval president campaigning furiously for them. :lol:

You can keep thinking its still coming up roses for the Dems, but I am gonna be really interested to see if they are able to control Leiberman and other blue dogs after this sting.

Democratic leadership has nothing to offer to them now...the draw was that BHO remaining with high approval would help get them re-elected when the time came. Now they're seeing that Barry is a one trick pony and the hope and change fever isn't transferrable to their campaigns. It's only a service to Barry. So now when the leadership wants something like support of a health care package, there isn't anything drawing the Dems to capitulate to the leadership instead of their constituents.

Mark my word...the democrats are gonna start breaking ranks. Barry's "Yes We Can" message just became "Yes I Can, and the rest of you are on your own". Or at least that's how the dems up for re-election are gonna see it.
 
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It was a HUGE defeat for the Palin/Limbaugh/Beck wing of the GOP. They want to spread their agenda to the nation as a whole....but couldn't even win in a largely conservative district that the GOP has held for decades.

A defeat for the GOP??? I guess all the news I read and saw was wrong. I heard Hoffman represented the Conservative party, not the GOP.

I could have sworn it was a defeat for the Conservative Party, but maybe you get different news than I do.
 
Uh-huh. A couple of governorship wins seems pretty unimpressive until you realize they were a couple of governorship wins, incumbent governors losing seats and seats being lost despite a high approval president campaigning furiously for them. :lol:

You can keep thinking its still coming up roses for the Dems, but I am gonna be really interested to see if they are able to control Leiberman and other blue dogs after this sting.

Democratic leadership has nothing to offer to them now...the draw was that BHO remaining with high approval would help get them re-elected when the time came. Now they're seeing that Barry is a one trick pony and the hope and change fever isn't transferrable to their campaigns. It's only a service to Barry. So now when the leadership wants something like support of a health care package, there isn't anything drawing the Dems to capitulate to the leadership instead of their constituents.

Mark my word...the democrats are gonna start breaking ranks. Barry's "Yes We Can" message just became "Yes I Can, and the rest of you are on your own". Or at least that's how the dems up for re-election are gonna see it.


Where have I argued that everything is rosey for the Dems?
You are going to have to look long and hard Jall...in order to find it.

I've said that there are troubling signs for the Democrats.....but I think there are even more troubling signs for the Palin/Beck/Limbaugh branch of the New GOP.
 
A defeat for the GOP??? I guess all the news I read and saw was wrong. I heard Hoffman represented the Conservative party, not the GOP.

I could have sworn it was a defeat for the Conservative Party, but maybe you get different news than I do.

That "Conservative Party" was the strategy being touted as the New GOP by the right-wing of the party. They were hoping to spread this strategy to the nation. That prospect looks rather bleak at this point.
 
Where have I argued that everything is rosey for the Dems?
You are going to have to look long and hard Jall...in order to find it.

I've said that there are troubling signs for the Democrats.....but I think there are even more troubling signs for the Palin/Beck/Limbaugh branch of the New GOP.

There is no Limbaugh/Beck branch of the GOP. Limbaugh and Beck have not ever, nor ever will be political candidates.

Sarah Palin, understandably, still has a devoted following.
 
There is no Limbaugh/Beck branch of the GOP. Limbaugh and Beck have not ever, nor ever will be political candidates.

Sarah Palin, understandably, still has a devoted following.

True....however, Limbaugh, Beck and Palin have all been arguing that the party needs to shun moderates. Palin vowed to campaign for candidates that would adopt this new GOP strategy. Her efforts failed big time.

As I've said before.....many times:


PALIN 2012!
 
There is no Limbaugh/Beck branch of the GOP. Limbaugh and Beck have not ever, nor ever will be political candidates.

Sarah Palin, understandably, still has a devoted following.


So are you saying that neither of those insignifcant people are not mouth peices for a certian section of the Republican party who virtually lives of their every word?
 
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