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Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

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Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over - CNN.com
Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

So now it's murder !!!
CNN) -- A 20-year-old woman from Iraq has died in an Arizona hospital, nearly two weeks after her father, police say, ran her over with a car because she had become "too Westernized."
"Peoria police said Faleh Hassan Almaleki believed his daughter had become "too Westernized" and had abandoned "traditional" Iraqi values. "

These are the type of immigrants that we do not need or want in this country. Technically I am an immigrant myself but my family came here from a civilized continent and with European values so we eventually fit in. There is no way to filter out crud like this murderer but maybe we need to go back to limiting certain types of ethnic groups or religions from coming here.

If this buffoon did not want his daughter to get “Westernized” then he should have stayed were they behave like animals. No actually I like animals and they behave better than this bacteria !!
 
So how do you tell the ones who won't ever fit in from the ones who will? :roll:

Please stop using this tragedy to feed your misguided conclusions. Just because one crazy guy ran over his daughter doesn't mean all Iraqi immigrants will.
 
1)

Are/Were they Citizens of the United States? (Just out of curiosity)


2)

Why does the fact that they're Iraqi matter?

There's an approximation (2001) of 90,000 Iraqi-American citizens (born in Iraqi, living in America); it's probably quite a bit more now.

Why does it matter where they came from? I cannot possibly imagine any other reason for why the source cares that they're Iraqi other than we have a strong biased against Middle-Easterners.

Oh schwell
 
The Religion of Peace...oh yeah!
 
These are some sick bastards who would rather kill their own flesh and blood because they don't agree with how they act or dress. I myself had a girlfriend, Turkish sunni, who was very beautiful. Her father after finding out we were dating for over a year, threatened her life and her sister's life if she didn't break it off with me. The guy was a raving lunatic. This happens more than is let on - and we only hear about those that actually get killed. The one's that are mentally or physically abused or threatened we don't hear about.

Unfortunately there's no way to weed these idiots out of the country. It's a shame. If this dope wanted his family to live like Iraqi's he should have mustered up some courage and gone to another Muslim country or stayed in Iraq. But the coward didn't have courage and could only kill his daughter. Hope he stays in jail a long long time and is tormented every hour of every day.
 
Better yet, we should ban cars. That way, no one gets run over.
 
The concern here should be the same for American that being the push not only in this Country but in the western nations in general to honor Sharia law.
It must be drilled into the heads of all Muslims that shame in this country is the disrespect for your children and make it an automatic death penalty for any murderer of any family member Muslim or any other person.
Personally I'd tell them they would them be covered in pig fat before they are buried in an unmarked grave. But some might think I was being harsh.
It's clear that the religion of peace if full on BS and just another religion designed for control to keep women down because dumb asses from that part of the world couldn't stand the knowledge that woman had minds of their own and were of equal intelligence of men.
I caution everyone not to fall for the push for Sharia law because it's coming; Sharia law: A brief introduction

See where Islam is going world wide; Muslim Demographics Video
 
And people wonder why I would have no problem if we ever nuked the entire ME. They care more for a backward cult (sorry but I will no longer call Islam a religion) than they do about their own kids. Why the hell should we care about them?
 
These are the type of immigrants that we do not need or want in this country. Technically I am an immigrant myself but my family came here from a civilized continent and with European values so we eventually fit in. There is no way to filter out crud like this murderer but maybe we need to go back to limiting certain types of ethnic groups or religions from coming here.

If this buffoon did not want his daughter to get “Westernized” then he should have stayed were they behave like animals. No actually I like animals and they behave better than this bacteria !!

The Religion of Peace...oh yeah!

One person murders someone = the other 100k are animals

Awesome logic guys, well done.
 
Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over - CNN.com
Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

So now it's murder !!!
CNN) -- A 20-year-old woman from Iraq has died in an Arizona hospital, nearly two weeks after her father, police say, ran her over with a car because she had become "too Westernized."
"Peoria police said Faleh Hassan Almaleki believed his daughter had become "too Westernized" and had abandoned "traditional" Iraqi values. "

These are the type of immigrants that we do not need or want in this country. Technically I am an immigrant myself but my family came here from a civilized continent and with European values so we eventually fit in. There is no way to filter out crud like this murderer but maybe we need to go back to limiting certain types of ethnic groups or religions from coming here.

If this buffoon did not want his daughter to get “Westernized” then he should have stayed were they behave like animals.
No actually I like animals and they behave better than this bacteria !!

I agree with that.I think that if he didn't want his daughter to get too westernized then he shouldn't move his family to a western country. No one said he had to move here. You do not move your family to another country and expect no one in your family to not assimilate. There are plenty of countries that treat women as property,make them or brain wash them to wear burqas due to some closet homosexuals who might be offended by the female body and to do what ever the **** the man says no questions asked. Its like a Christian(real christian not a liberal pretending to be a christian) moving to San Francisco and complaining about all the gays and trannys there or an anti-2nd amendment nut liberal moving to Oklahoma and complaining about how pro-2nd amendment the state is or all the churches there or someone from Florida moving to Canada or Alaska and complaining that it is cold there.
 
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Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over - CNN.com
Iraqi woman, 20, dies; police in Arizona say father ran her over

So now it's murder !!!
CNN) -- A 20-year-old woman from Iraq has died in an Arizona hospital, nearly two weeks after her father, police say, ran her over with a car because she had become "too Westernized."
"Peoria police said Faleh Hassan Almaleki believed his daughter had become "too Westernized" and had abandoned "traditional" Iraqi values. "

These are the type of immigrants that we do not need or want in this country. Technically I am an immigrant myself but my family came here from a civilized continent and with European values so we eventually fit in. There is no way to filter out crud like this murderer but maybe we need to go back to limiting certain types of ethnic groups or religions from coming here.

If this buffoon did not want his daughter to get “Westernized” then he should have stayed were they behave like animals. No actually I like animals and they behave better than this bacteria !!
of course what he did is despicable. every murder is despicable, and plenty of natural born americans commit them.
 
This isn't the first time i've heard about this type of thing. And I'm quite sure it won't be the last.

The other day I read yet another story of domestic violence, involving yet another man pounding so hard on his better half she ended up in the ER and died from her injuries. Not too long before that, I read about this guy who was so jealous when his wife left him for another man, he showed up at her place and stabbed both her and the new boyfriend to death. Should I list all the stories of men who have shot their ex-wives/GF because these women had the audacity of leaving them? None of them were Muslim.

I'm sure it won't be long before I read about yet another similar case involving some troglodyte bludgeoning his woman to death. I mean it's perfectly obvious to me from these stories than ALL men are complete savage animals.

ALL of them.

Am I rite?
 
I think that America is facing the same problem that Ayaan Hirsi Ali pointed out in the Netherlands. It's fine to allow legal immigration. However, we need to do something to ensure that people who emigrate here adopt western values and assimilate gracefully into our system.

Multiculturalism is not going to help us here. Some Islamic values are simply not compatible within a western democracy. This would include, of course, killing one's children for failing to adhere to one's religious views.

It seems to me that what is needed are classes on what it means to live in a western democracy BEFORE someone is allowed to immigrate.
 
Multiculturalism is not going to help us here. Some Islamic values are simply not compatible within a western democracy. This would include, of course, killing one's children for failing to adhere to one's religious views.

I hope you're going to make all those Jehova's Witnesses and weird Christian fundies, who shun conventional medicine and rely on God and the power of prayer to cure their kids cancers, attend those classes too.
 
I hope you're going to make all those Jehova's Witnesses and weird Christian fundies, who shun conventional medicine and rely on God and the power of prayer to cure their kids cancers, attend those classes too.

This is a false dichotomy. We have every right to ask people who desire to immigrate here to jump through hoops to show that they are willing to adapt to our society. They are, after all, asking a favor of us.
 
The other day I read yet another story of domestic violence, involving yet another man pounding so hard on his better half she ended up in the ER and died from her injuries. Not too long before that, I read about this guy who was so jealous when his wife left him for another man, he showed up at her place and stabbed both her and the new boyfriend to death. Should I list all the stories of men who have shot their ex-wives/GF because these women had the audacity of leaving them? None of them were Muslim.

I'm sure it won't be long before I read about yet another similar case involving some troglodyte bludgeoning his woman to death. I mean it's perfectly obvious to me from these stories than ALL men are complete savage animals.

ALL of them.

Am I rite?

The difference is 9 times outta 10 those that you just mentioned did it out of jealousy or rage. I've never heard of some islamic dad killing thier kid for reasons other than the cult they follow.
 
This is a false dichotomy. We have every right to ask people who desire to immigrate here to jump through hoops to show that they are willing to adapt to our society. They are, after all, asking a favor of us.

Considering the (according to some) frightening numbers of Muslim immigrants flooding into the West, these cases are few and far between. No matter how carefully you screen them, you will not stop the honor killing practice which is largely cultural and not religious in nature. Your best bet if you want to avoid it is to completely halt immigration from certain specific Muslim countries where honor killings are most common and just accept Indonesian and other Asian Muslims where honor killing is practically unheard of. :shrug:
 
Considering the (according to some) frightening numbers of Muslim immigrants flooding into the West, these cases are few and far between. No matter how carefully you screen them, you will not stop the honor killing practice which is largely cultural and not religious in nature. Your best bet if you want to avoid it is to completely halt immigration from certain specific Muslim countries where honor killings are most common and just accept Indonesian and other Asian Muslims where honor killing is practically unheard of. :shrug:

OK. If it's not religious, but cultural, then why did you bring up Jehovah's Witnesses and "Christian fundies"?
 
The difference is 9 times outta 10 those that you just mentioned did it out of jealousy or rage. I've never heard of some islamic dad killing thier kid for reasons other than the cult they follow.

I don't believe the religion is the reason they do it. Cultural traditions are much more of a factor. I don't have time to pull up the links right now, but if you look into where most honor killings take place, you'll find that they're concentrated in specific tribal areas in specific countries and not all of them Muslim. India is one non-Muslim country where honor killings still happen, although for different reasons than in Muslim countries. However, if you look at Indonesia or Malaysia, you'll find the practice is almost unheard of.
 
OK. If it's not religious, but cultural, then why did you bring up Jehovah's Witnesses and "Christian fundies"?

That was tongue in cheek. If others are going to insist that certain religions are not welcome in our Western countries, I suggest we start cleaning up our own houses first. If the Muslims who kill their children are not welcome here, then neither should JW or certain extreme Christian sects. :shrug:
 
That was tongue in cheek. If others are going to insist that certain religions are not welcome in our Western countries, I suggest we start cleaning up our own houses first. If the Muslims who kill their children are not welcome here, then neither should JW or certain extreme Christian sects. :shrug:

But even then, there's a difference between making a medical choice based on your religion, believing that God will provide, and intentionally killing your children.
 
But even then, there's a difference between making a medical choice based on your religion, believing that God will provide, and intentionally killing your children.

How is it different? In both cases the person believes he/she is doing God/Allah's will. There have been cases, especially in Africa and South America, where Christian parents killed their own children because they thought their kids were possessed by the devil. Insanity in the name of god is not solely a Muslim trait.
 
Because the people withholding earthly medical treatment aren't actually trying to kill their kids . . . ?
 
Because the people withholding earthly medical treatment aren't actually trying to kill their kids . . . ?

No, they're trying to "save" them and to "save" themselves. They believe they're being tested by God. They believe that anything other than the hand of god will poison their souls and their child's soul forever. The Muslim who kills his daughter or the Christian who kills his child to cast out the demon believes he's doing god's work. They don't think they're doing anything wrong either.
 
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