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Administration Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview [Edit]

Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

The White House has the right to refuse any news agency.

I'm having a real hard time with this statement and I am not singling you out, Orius because I've been hearing it all over...yours is just the latest time I've seen it.

The White House doesn't have "rights". I would like to see where in the Constitution the "rights" of the Executive Branch are enumerated. Because, in reading the Constitution, the Executive Branch has duties and they have certain powers but I don't see any listing of Rights.

Rights are given to the people to protect them from abuses of the government's power. Not vice versa.
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

The White House has the right to refuse any news agency.

For individual access, but not when they've granted general access to others . . . like a general media press event.
 
Heck Obama could just refuse to call on any of their reporters as Bush did with Helen Thomas for a very lonnnnnnng time.
 
Heck Obama could just refuse to call on any of their reporters as Bush did with Helen Thomas for a very lonnnnnnng time.

Was she barred from the room as in this case?
 
She might as well have been.

When you can see, here, and record everything in the room,You have more than enough to do your job as a reporter.


The difference is reporting the news and participating/being the news.


The connection/analogy here does not exist.
 
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When you can see, here, and record everything in the room,You have more than enough to do your job as a reporter.


The difference is reporting the news and participating/being the news.

Then they should be able to report "Credible News" then shouldn't they?
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

I'm having a real hard time with this statement and I am not singling you out, Orius because I've been hearing it all over...yours is just the latest time I've seen it.

The White House doesn't have "rights". I would like to see where in the Constitution the "rights" of the Executive Branch are enumerated. Because, in reading the Constitution, the Executive Branch has duties and they have certain powers but I don't see any listing of Rights.

Rights are given to the people to protect them from abuses of the government's power. Not vice versa.

True.

Let me rephrase it then. The public doesn't have unlimited access to White House press conferences. The reason why Obama backed down wasn't because of the First Amendment (which is not relevant as no one was being censored), but because the news networks banded together. If they didn't, Fox would have gotten the boot already.

I don't find his attempt tyrannical in the least. Why would you invite a news agency to a top level press conference that is just going to twist your words and make you the enemy?
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

Let me rephrase it then. The public doesn't have unlimited access to White House press conferences. The reason why Obama backed down wasn't because of the First Amendment (which is not relevant as no one was being censored), but because the news networks banded together. If they didn't, Fox would have gotten the boot already.

There's a body of caselaw which works against you here.

Pell v. Procunier

United States v. Connolly

Sherrill v. Knight

Getty Images News Serv. Corp. v. Dep’t of Def.

Nation Magazine v. U.S. Dep’t of Def.

Anderson v. Cryovac, Inc.

Westinghouse Broad.Co., v. Dukakis

Borreca v. Fasi

Quad-City Cmty. News Serv., Inc. v. Jebens

Snyder v. Ringgold

et al.

Generally, they recognize a 1st Amendment principle where, if you're having a general press event, you can't exclude hand-picked members of the press, particularly based on viewpoint.
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

I'm having a real hard time with this statement and I am not singling you out, Orius because I've been hearing it all over...yours is just the latest time I've seen it.

The White House doesn't have "rights". I would like to see where in the Constitution the "rights" of the Executive Branch are enumerated. Because, in reading the Constitution, the Executive Branch has duties and they have certain powers but I don't see any listing of Rights.

Rights are given to the people to protect them from abuses of the government's power. Not vice versa.

To be clear, then, there is nothing mandating that the White House take an interview from any particular news agency. They still should've, though
 
Then they should be able to report "Credible News" then shouldn't they?

If they report other than that they can be sued for defamation of character and libel and such things.
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

To be clear, then, there is nothing mandating that the White House take an interview from any particular news agency. They still should've, though



Actually, it was a super dumb move for the WH to come out with this stance. First thing is that they were trying to intimidate the other news agencies in the news pool, and by denying FOX initially, they set themselves up for the embarrassment that followed when they had to back down and allow them.

Childish and petty.


j-mac
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

It's not a top priority, just an issue Obama is trying to address. Too bad he didn't succeed.

I know to bad we don't have a totally state controlled media, and that fascist bastard didn't succeed.
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

Hyperbolic as usual. They attempted to exclude Fox from an interview, Fox was not censored.

They tried to exclude fox because they want all dissent squashed, they tried to exclude fox because all dissenters must be punished, they tried to exclude fox because Obama is a corporatist and a fascist.
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

They tried to exclude fox because they want all dissent squashed, they tried to exclude fox because all dissenters must be punished, they tried to exclude fox because Obama is a corporatist and a fascist.


They tried to exclude Helen Thomas because they wanted all dissent squashed and because all dissenters must be punished, and they conspicuously included Jeff Gannon because he was a gay male "escort" who dressed in camouflage g-strings who was eager to be their phony reporter shill.


:roll:
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

They tried to exclude Helen Thomas because they wanted all dissent squashed and because all dissenters must be punished, and they conspicuously included Jeff Gannon because he was a gay male "escort" who dressed in camouflage g-strings who was eager to be their phony reporter shill.


:roll:


they excluded her cause she was one batty old bitch. :lol:
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

They tried to exclude Helen Thomas because they wanted all dissent squashed and because all dissenters must be punished, and they conspicuously included Jeff Gannon because he was a gay male "escort" who dressed in camouflage g-strings who was eager to be their phony reporter shill.


:roll:

Yeah but he looked damned good in those camouflage g-strings.
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

they excluded her cause she was one batty old bitch. :lol:

Certainly sounds like the whole Fox News (tee hee) crew to me.
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

They tried to exclude Helen Thomas because they wanted all dissent squashed and because all dissenters must be punished, and they conspicuously included Jeff Gannon because he was a gay male "escort" who dressed in camouflage g-strings who was eager to be their phony reporter shill.


:roll:


Maybe here would be a good time to examine the Obama policy of having staged pressers, and planted questions? You want that?


j-mac
 
Re: White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

Maybe here would be a good time to examine the Obama policy of having staged pressers, and planted questions? You want that?


j-mac

Wait Jeff Ganon is working for the Obama admin now?
 
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