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Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

Oh right......He doesn't have the same concern for our troops that made his predecessor send the same guys back to Iraq for so many tours of duty that they commit suicide when they get home. :thumbdown





I think that he is more interested in ending pot raids than making a decision on the war. :shrug:
 
Still quite a few recent bombings & we still have lots of boots on the ground yet. What do you think will happen the second we leave?
(or should we stay there forever?....unwanted occupiers)
I think it will return to the same bloodbath it would have been the second their strong central government was no more. You really think they are capable of being a democracy??)


It's possible. The most distressing part of Iraq has been the inability of the various sects to get along and reach compromise. The upcoming elections and post-election finagling should prove interesting. Will it hold? I have no idea, it's up to the Iraqis.
 
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I think that he is more interested in ending pot raids than making a decision on the war. :shrug:

I agree with the ending of federal raids on medical marijuana sites & I'd rather have him take his time & make the RIGHT decision on Afghanistan, rather than a fast one.
We've tried FAST....Let's try SMART for a change. ;)
 
I agree with the ending of federal raids on medical marijuana sites & I'd rather have him take his time & make the RIGHT decision on Afghanistan, rather than a fast one.
We've tried FAST....Let's try SMART for a change. ;)





Its not rocket surgery, surge, or pull out.Sitting there taking fire is not good.
 
When did they return to even partial power?

Are you serous?The only thing the government in Kabul controls is the major population centers,the rest of the country is controlled by either the talaban or the tribal chieftains /drug lords. :confused:
 
Its not rocket surgery, surge, or pull out.Sitting there taking fire is not good.

But honestly, Rev. We have been at this troop strength and deployment for 6 months. Another month isn't going to be disastrous. Of course, if the Taliban surge against another outpost and cause us to pull out, tis not good.
 
It's possible. The most distressing part of Iraq has been the inability of the various sects to get along and reach compromise. The upocoming elections and post-election finagling should prove interesting. Will it hold? I have no idea, it's up to the Iraqis.

I think that the concept that savages who have been killing each other for thousands of years will suddenly decide they want an American style democracy & stop the killings is a pipe dream.

I'd love to be proven wrong....but I don't think I will be.
 
But honestly, Rev. We have been at this troop strength and deployment for 6 months. Another month isn't going to be disastrous. Of course, if the Taliban surge against another outpost and cause us to pull out, tis not good.




ok look at obama and his history...


Voted "present" most of the time he was in the senate

Did not know which side to take a stand on with Georgia war, Only did so after mccain

Won't take a stand on healthcare, leaves it to congress, even dems are pissed at him here.

The ONLY thing he has taken a hard stand on is marijuana raids....



He is indecisive and I have no confidence that he is simply being "cautious"


That's my take on it.
 
"The time's comin' when we're all gonna have to anty up and kick in like men..." --Morgan Freeman.
 
THE question that I'm sure you'll avoid:
Is Cheney wrong?

Hell yes he's wrong.

Cheney is the pro Ditherer. He should be gone and has no place making comments such as these he's made about a new president that has tought choices to make. Again he is doing everything he can to openly attack the president and the country and the moral of the troops...He had his chance to do the right things and make the right choices and didn't. I think this is his own little way of diverting attention away from his record on torture..yet another failure and wrong decision he made.
 
Hell yes he's wrong.

Cheney is the pro Ditherer. He should be gone and has no place making comments such as these he's made about a new president that has tought choices to make. Again he is doing everything he can to openly attack the president and the country and the moral of the troops...He had his chance to do the right things and make the right choices and didn't. I think this is his own little way of diverting attention away from his record on torture..yet another failure and wrong decision he made.







At least he made a decision. :lol:
 
ok look at obama and his history...


Voted "present" most of the time he was in the senate

Did not know which side to take a stand on with Georgia war, Only did so after mccain

Won't take a stand on healthcare, leaves it to congress, even dems are pissed at him here.

The ONLY thing he has taken a hard stand on is marijuana raids....



He is indecisive and I have no confidence that he is simply being "cautious"


That's my take on it.


Yeah, I see your point. I got nothing to add.
 
& a strictly partisan one. ;)





Actually it's a personal one. As I have friends in country. I also remember when Bush I was indecisive back in 91... We sat there not knowing if we were going into bagdhad or not....


And it sucked. We weren't taking fire at the time either, it must REALLY suck as I am being told to be shot at and not knowing what the mission is....



Partisanism has nothing to do with it. If Bush did it, i'd hold the same position.
 
PBO voted against the '07 Offensive and predicted it's failure. You can't expect him to support another offensive on his watch.
 
THE question:

"Make no mistake. Signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries," Cheney said while accepting an award from a conservative national security group, the Center for Security Policy.

"The White House must stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger," the former vice president said. "It's time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity."

Is Cheney wrong?

Is forming a stategy going forward based on sound intelligence and exploring or options "indecision"? No it is not.
Is rushing into a war with the wrong amount of troops and unsound intelligence "hurt or allies and embolden the enemy"? Yes ask Dick that is exactly what he and Bush did while they took a "stand off" policy towards Afghanistan for years. It is why Afghanistan the way it is today.
 
Continually making the wrong decision is nothing to be proud of & does not help this country. Making the right decision...even if slower....will always lead to a better outcome.

Wonder if he is slower and makes the wrong decision...that's the worst!
 
Continually making the wrong decision is nothing to be proud of & does not help this country. Making the right decision...even if slower....will always lead to a better outcome.




again stay or go.... not rocket surgury.
 
Hell yes he's wrong.
So, if Cheney is wrong, as you say, then, according to you:

-Signals of indecision out of Washington do NOT hurt our allies and do NOT embolden our adversaries

-The White House does NOT need to stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger

-It is NOT time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.
 
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Actually it's a personal one. As I have friends in country. I also remember when Bush I was indecisive back in 91... We sat there not knowing if we were going into bagdhad or not....


And it sucked. We weren't taking fire at the time either, it must REALLY suck as I am being told to be shot at and not knowing what the mission is....



Partisanism has nothing to do with it. If Bush did it, i'd hold the same position.



I hear you Rev but you do not speak for all the individual soldiers over there. As many as you could find on one side...there will be others on the other side.
Troops that I know (& I know plenty of vets too) fight for each other & to go home to their wives & kids. For the most part they are not looking at the big picture....They just want to make it home.
I say bring them home now...War is a political decision.....Let our President make the right one.


"War is an extension of politics by other means."
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=war+is+an+...X7F2CD5gi+eX9lQvwdycGbu3gY=&tsp=1256239181476
 
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I hear you Rev but you do not speak for all the individual soldiers over there. As many as you could find on one side...there will be others on the other side.
Troops that I know (& I know plenty of vets too) fight for each other & to go home to their wives & kids. For the most part they are not looking at the big picture....They just want to make it home.
I say bring them home now...War is a political decision.....Let our President make the right one.





You bet we looked at the "big picture" when sitting there with no mission.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...war-debate-endangers-u-s-troops-veterans.html


Many of us feel this way.
 
I hear you Rev but you do not speak for all the individual soldiers over there. As many as you could find on one side...there will be others on the other side.
Troops that I know (& I know plenty of vets too) fight for each other & to go home to their wives & kids. For the most part they are not looking at the big picture....They just want to make it home.
I say bring them home now...War is a political decision.....Let our President make the right one.

Yeah, let's bring them home no, so someone else can go back later and do it all over again. Do we really have to let history repeat itself??
 
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