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Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
It has to do with your hyper-partisan obama apratchik attitude of calling Rush a bigot, but excusing Obama's bigotry.


It's called hypocrisy sweet heart. ;)
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wrong thread, rev.

rush was spouting his bigotry long before obama was around.
 
Ikari said:
I view the comment as something that refers to someone being lesser "evolved". If someone is dumb, then it's applicable. I mean, is Sideshow Mel racist? He doesn't have a bone through his nose, but it's in his hair.
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then why did rush say he felt guilty? you and i view this differently, that's all.
 
liblady said:
wrong thread, rev.

rush was spouting his bigotry long before obama was around.
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Obama's bigotry is more current events.


You on one hand call one guy a bigot, but give a pass to the other.


It's not about your feigned outrage ove bigotry is it? Its all about attackin the other team with nonsense. :shrug:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Obama's bigotry is more current events.


You on one hand call one guy a bigot, but give a pass to the other.


It's not about your feigned outrage ove bigotry is it? Its all about attackin the other team with nonsense. :shrug:
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oh please.....what team? rush limbaugh is an idiot unto himself. if he's on your "team".....better bring in a ringer.
 
liblady said:
oh please.....what team? rush limbaugh is an idiot unto himself. if he's on your "team".....better bring in a ringer.
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Uhm, your selective outrage is a joke actually. You hold Rush to a higher standard than Obama, maybe you are the racist. :lol:
 
liblady said:
then why did rush say he felt guilty? you and i view this differently, that's all.
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I'm not a mind reader. Maybe he snapped a bit too quickly and felt bad for it. Who am I to say. You're the one unequivocally labeling him on little to no data, not me.
 
liblady said:
wait, what? what do the colts and bears have to do with anything regarding rush?
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I was giving it as an anecdotal bit of information one could use to argue Rush's point. Leading up to that super bowl you'd think there was a civil rights march going to be happening rather than a football game. After it you'd be more inclined to believe Tony Dungy won the game due to the hardships of slavery then because of him being an absolutely STELLAR coach. The media was OBSESSED with race during that, to the exclusion of a variety of other storylines (Hester's amazing ability as a rookie? Peyton possibly finally getting over the hump? Urlacher's chance to establish himself firmly in the annals of Bears linebacker history, etc).

No, there is no direct evidence that the media over rated McNabb because he's black. There's no direct evidence that London Fletcher doesn't get the pro bowl nods that Ray Lewis gets because he's not a vocal, in your face, boistrous personality. However the argument can be made based on the facts surrounding it.

Factually, statisically McNabb was a decent to good QB during that time that time.

Factually, there's evidence of the media having a field day with racial based reporting and stories because of its "feel good" nature.

Factually, a solid argument could be made out that McNabb during that time was being made out to be a Brady/Peyton type of "elite" QB, of which the stats don't back up.

As such, one could reasonable come to the conclussion that Rush did. Does that mean its the correct conclussion? NO. But its not an absolutely ludicrous one either.

my thought that he's a racist doesn't rest on that single comment. it's his entire body of work.
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Yes, we've seen. Your beliefs of him being racist is based on a 30 year old quote without context. I'm sure the vast majority of the country has never uttered anything in their youth that doesn't completely reflect how they feel currently.

;-) i'm sorry your team sucks, why take it out on me? i'm a colts fan.
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Not taking it out on you, just reenforcing a point you disagreed with me on.

I would prefer Rush Limbaugh, or a liberal equivilent there of, over my current owner because I fully and utterly believe that Limbaugh's common sense of emulating those that have success mixed with his long time fanhood of the Steelers will lead him to be an intelligent owner that stays in the owners box smoking cigars more than trying to play GM.
 
Ikari said:
Eli is an overrated chump. Except he's looking good this year and that pisses me off more. He rode his brother's coattails for awhile, which is how he got overrated.
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Now why do you want to dis the youngest of N'Awlins' own Manning boys? Actually, I tend to agree that he is no Peyton, however, most would agree that he's magnitudes better than McNabb!
 
liblady said:
oh please.....what team? rush limbaugh is an idiot unto himself. if he's on your "team".....better bring in a ringer.
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Yet, you support the most racist political party ever to inhabit the U.S.

Today's Democrats have done more to hurt African-Americans than the Ku Klux Klan. They condescendingly and repeatedly reinforce the notion that blacks in America are inferior and in capable of accomplishing anything without the Democrats legally lowering the bar at every turn.

Actually, there are MANY black Americans that support Rush and his views. That's the dirty little secret in all of this that Democrats conveniently ignore.
 
Erod said:
Actually, there are MANY black Americans that support Rush and his views.
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I'd be interested in seeing your documentation on this.
 
liblady said:
;-) i'm sorry your team sucks, why take it out on me? i'm a colts fan.
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It must drive you nuts that Peyton Manning, Tony Dungy, and Rush Limbaugh are good friends.
 
Erod said:
It must drive you nuts that Peyton Manning, Tony Dungy, and Rush Limbaugh are good friends.
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Nobody is saying that Rush doesn't have some followers that are in the NFL.

What do Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning have in common?
 
goldendog said:
Nobody is saying that Rush doesn't have some followers that are in the NFL.

What do Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning have in common?
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Who care's the bottom line is this neither Sharpton or Jackson have any right to tell the NFL who can own any team, I would like to point out that most of the Pro Sports Owners are Republicans.

As for the Bloods and Crips comment well at the time of the comment we had the Ray Caurth murder thing going on along with Ray Lewis trail and few other off feild stuff going on so it was a well based comment.
 
Isn't it scary how some--I won't say who they because the Libbos might start crying...oops--how some people want to stop Rush from going into a business venture because of his politics? What's next, the Mark of The Beast? We're all going to have to meet some politically correct standard to be able to do business, now and have a tattoo on our foreheads showing that we met that standard? Saying that Rush shouldn't buy a football team because of his politics is just as bad as saying that Sharpton shouldn't be allowed to buy a football team because he's black.
 
Zyphlin said:
I was giving it as an anecdotal bit of information one could use to argue Rush's point. Leading up to that super bowl you'd think there was a civil rights march going to be happening rather than a football game. After it you'd be more inclined to believe Tony Dungy won the game due to the hardships of slavery then because of him being an absolutely STELLAR coach. The media was OBSESSED with race during that, to the exclusion of a variety of other storylines (Hester's amazing ability as a rookie? Peyton possibly finally getting over the hump? Urlacher's chance to establish himself firmly in the annals of Bears linebacker history, etc).

No, there is no direct evidence that the media over rated McNabb because he's black. There's no direct evidence that London Fletcher doesn't get the pro bowl nods that Ray Lewis gets because he's not a vocal, in your face, boistrous personality. However the argument can be made based on the facts surrounding it.

Factually, statisically McNabb was a decent to good QB during that time that time.

Factually, there's evidence of the media having a field day with racial based reporting and stories because of its "feel good" nature.

Factually, a solid argument could be made out that McNabb during that time was being made out to be a Brady/Peyton type of "elite" QB, of which the stats don't back up.

As such, one could reasonable come to the conclussion that Rush did. Does that mean its the correct conclussion? NO. But its not an absolutely ludicrous one either.



Yes, we've seen. Your beliefs of him being racist is based on a 30 year old quote without context. I'm sure the vast majority of the country has never uttered anything in their youth that doesn't completely reflect how they feel currently.



Not taking it out on you, just reenforcing a point you disagreed with me on.

I would prefer Rush Limbaugh, or a liberal equivilent there of, over my current owner because I fully and utterly believe that Limbaugh's common sense of emulating those that have success mixed with his long time fanhood of the Steelers will lead him to be an intelligent owner that stays in the owners box smoking cigars more than trying to play GM.
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wait wait wait.......dungy was a great coach. just ask gruden. ;-) i remember indy coverage, and i remember chicago coverage......i lived in milwaukee at the time. both cities focused on far more than the coaches.

and true, mcnabb isn't manning or brady. but i seriously don't recall his being talked about as the second coming.

my beliefs about rush are not based on one comment. i dont' feel it necessary to defend how i feel about the man.
 
rush can do whatever the other owners allow him to do.
 
liblady said:
wait wait wait.......dungy was a great coach. just ask gruden. ;-)
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I agree, I've been saying that the whole time. Dungy was an amazing coach, and Gruden was lucky to have had Dungy's guys in Tampa.

i remember indy coverage, and i remember chicago coverage......i lived in milwaukee at the time. both cities focused on far more than the coaches.
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I honestly don't know what the coverage was in the actual cities, and if there's any place I would say McNabb ISN'T overrated, it'd be in Philly, where they seemingly hate him (and often times when I talk to philly fans, they go the opposite direction under rating him)

and true, mcnabb isn't manning or brady. but i seriously don't recall his being talked about as the second coming.
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I don't know, I distinctly remember for most of the 2000's him being talked about as an "elite", top 5 type QB.
 
Zyphlin said:
I agree, I've been saying that the whole time. Dungy was an amazing coach, and Gruden was lucky to have had Dungy's guys in Tampa.



I honestly don't know what the coverage was in the actual cities, and if there's any place I would say McNabb ISN'T overrated, it'd be in Philly, where they seemingly hate him (and often times when I talk to philly fans, they go the opposite direction under rating him)



I don't know, I distinctly remember for most of the 2000's him being talked about as an "elite", top 5 type QB.
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maybe after 2003......he improved somewhat. prior to that, he rushed a lot which was exciting. remember, many people thought michael vick was a good qb......
 
liblady said:
rush can do whatever the other owners allow him to do.
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But, isn't it messed up that it's based on politics, rather than Rush's ability to buy and run a football team? He can't participate in business, because his politics aren't correct. It's scary to think that can happen in our country.
 
The major problem with Donavan is and always has been he seems to make stupid mental mistakes in the first half and has to play catchup plus he tends to get hurt allot. Is he in the top 10 of NFL QBs in my book yes.
 
Redress said:
It's not just them, as alot of NFL players are pissed at some of his comments(one quarterback only got the job because he was black, and NFL games look like "the Crips vs the Bloods"), but it is still much ado about nothing. If Rush has the money and makes the best bid, why shouldn't he own a football team?
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The league has an image to uphold.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
The league has an image to uphold.
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Here's my issue with that, and I honestly don't remember your stance on the Vick situation so not speaking about you directly but many of those in the media using that argument.

Many of the same people now using the "image to uphold" and "its a business" excuse are the same people who were saying Mike Vick had a RIGHT to play in the NFL again. That the NFL would be WRONG to suspend him an extra year, or to ban him outright, for what they did. That its taking a mans "livelihood" away (as if Mike Vick couldn't make money anywhere besides the NFL). That the NFL shouldn't disallow Mike Vick back into the league if a team will have him no matter what hit the image of the NFL would take.
 
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