Boy Scout, 6, Suspended for Fork

[roguenuke]

Should there be common sense exceptions to "zero tolerance" rules?

Boy Scout, 6, Suspended for Fork - CBS News

The school district's policy is enforced "regardless of intent" and "does not take into consideration a child's age," reports CBS News correspondent Jim Axelrod.

But residents, and some lawmakers, are now wondering why schools can't apply a more common-sense discretion to such instances.

Is it really asking too much to take intent into consideration when these incidents occur? How about if we also look at character and personality and mood?

"Zachary wears a suit and tie some days to school by his own choice because he takes school so seriously," his mother said. "He is not some sort of threat to his classmates."

 

[Vader]

Should there be common sense exceptions to "zero tolerance" rules?

Boy Scout, 6, Suspended for Fork - CBS News



Is it really asking too much to take intent into consideration when these incidents occur? How about if we also look at character and personality and mood?

This is a school administration that went overboard. That policy is meant to prevent another Columbine. It is not applicable to a 6 year-old cub scout.

The school official responsible for this decision needs to be terminated for gross stupidity.

 

[jackalope]

This is profoundly dumb. They should start a recall campaign of their school board.

 

[rivrrat]

Jesus ****ing christ people are stupid. I mean like, they-shouldn't-be-allowed-to-reproduce stupid.

 

[apdst]

The common sense gene is being slowly, but surely bred out of the human race.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Fork me, I thought I started early at 13 yrs old

 

[danarhea]

Justice has unfortunately come to a fork in the road. :mrgreen:

 

[winston53660]

Behold the 21st century people of Earth:

I give ye the SPORK!!!!

 

[1069]

Should there be common sense exceptions to "zero tolerance" rules?

Boy Scout, 6, Suspended for Fork - CBS News



Is it really asking too much to take intent into consideration when these incidents occur? How about if we also look at character and personality and mood?

Idiocy abounds.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Justice has unfortunately come to a fork in the road. :mrgreen:

Fork off righty

 

[danarhea]

Fork off righty

The tines on my fork curve to the right. The tines on your fork curve to the left. Rather than you and me calling each other names, we could put our forks together and create a......

Salad grabber. LOL.

 

[winston53660]

The tines on my fork curve to the right. The tines on your fork curve to the left. Rather than you and me calling each other names, we could put our forks together and create a......

Salad grabber. LOL.

Could I have Blue Cheese dressing with that?

 

[B L Zeebub]

The tines on my fork curve to the right. The tines on your fork curve to the left. Rather than you and me calling each other names, we could put our forks together and create a......

Salad grabber. LOL.

Dont get smart with me four candles

 

[Jerry]

Should there be common sense exceptions to "zero tolerance" rules?

Boy Scout, 6, Suspended for Fork - CBS News



Is it really asking too much to take intent into consideration when these incidents occur? How about if we also look at character and personality and mood?

Your OP doesn't say a damn thing about what happened.

A Boyscout brought a fork to a meeting? How is the school involved?

Try quoting something relevant, like:

Zachary Christie was suspended from his 1st grade class in Delaware's Christina School District after bringing a camping utensil - a combination knife/fork/spoon - to use at lunch, prompting calls to reexamine schools' zero-tolerance policy for bringing weapons to school, according to a New York Times report Monday.

Oh lookie there, the fact that he's a Boy Scout is completely irrelevant.

A kid brought a knife to school, unless it was a dull butter knife and nothing sharp.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Your OP doesn't say a damn thing about what happened.

A Boyscout brought a fork to a meeting? How is the school involved?

Try quoting something relevant, like:


Oh lookie there, the fact that he's a Boy Scout is completely irrelevant.

A kid brought a knife to school, unless it was a dull butter knife and nothing sharp.

Have you read Scouting for Boys by Badman Powell?

 

[Baralis]

Oh lookie there, the fact that he's a Boy Scout is completely irrelevant.

A kid brought a knife to school, unless it was a dull butter knife and nothing sharp.

The article title is nothing but misleading. If I had brought a combination tool to school that included a knife I would have been suspended too.

 

[rathi]

My hatred for zero tolerance policies knows no bounds. What kind of mouth-breathing idiot openly creates a policy that deliberately eliminates any kind of common sense. I cannot imagine how you could defend such stupidity with a straight face.

 

[Cilogy]

This is beyond ridiculous. When I was in high school, where the zero tolerance policy is at presumably at a much higher standard, I brought utensils to lunch yet no one cared. This is overboard.

Roguenuke, you should have also made a poll relating to this thread, could have been interesting.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Dont forget to put options in it or cilla will pule

 

[roguenuke]

Your OP doesn't say a damn thing about what happened.

A Boyscout brought a fork to a meeting? How is the school involved?

Try quoting something relevant, like:


Oh lookie there, the fact that he's a Boy Scout is completely irrelevant.

A kid brought a knife to school, unless it was a dull butter knife and nothing sharp.

As to the relevant parts of this, instead of just the bitter complaints,
the point is that the kid is six years old and not posing any threat according to all accounts. It was a simple mistake. And I posed questions to get conversations going about whether or not common sense should apply to cases where zero tolerance rules are extreme. My quotes regard my questions.

So what is wrong with the school administrators actually finding out the situation before automatically sending a six year old to reform school for 45 days? This isn't one of those cases where the kid was being bullied or threatened other children. This child just thought he had something new that was worth showing off. A six year old doesn't fully understand school rules yet. And, although I do believe the parents could have been a little more responsible about looking into what he was taking to school with him, this really isn't a good reason to so severely punish such a young child. From all the facts we have of this story, there needs to be more leeway for administrators to be able to use their own common sense in certain cases, particularly like this. A better way to handle this kind of situation would have been to bring the child and his parents into the school and explain all the rules and the importance of those rules, and possibly some small punishment for the child. Then the school could even spend time the next day or later that week explaining in detail, especially to the younger students, all those things that might be considered a weapon and that shouldn't be brought to school.

 

[American]

First of all, you can't be a Boy Scout at age six. He was likely a Tiger in the Cub Scouts. Secondly he brought the camping utensils knife/fork/spoon combo to eat lunch with at school. The boy usually wears a tie to school.

The principal should get fired for letting this whole thing go this far. Lack of common sense will be the downfall of America.

 

[Jerry]

Have you read Scouting for Boys by Badman Powell?

Can't say I've ever heard of it.

 

[sazerac]

On each of the 45 days they could jab him hard with a fork. Show him what a knife can do a fluffy baby rabbit.

 

[Jerry]

As to the relevant parts of this, instead of just the bitter complaints,
the point is that the kid is six years old and not posing any threat according to all accounts. It was a simple mistake. And I posed questions to get conversations going about whether or not common sense should apply to cases where zero tolerance rules are extreme. My quotes regard my questions.

You need to learn that the casual reader needs context first.

So what is wrong with the school administrators actually finding out the situation before automatically sending a six year old to reform school for 45 days?

Like the fact that this has nothing to do with the Boy Scouts in any way?

I wonder why you chose a Boy-Scout hit-piece to make a thread on.

This isn't one of those cases where the kid was being bullied or threatened other children. This child just thought he had something new that was worth showing off. A six year old doesn't fully understand school rules yet. And, although I do believe the parents could have been a little more responsible about looking into what he was taking to school with him, this really isn't a good reason to so severely punish such a young child. From all the facts we have of this story, there needs to be more leeway for administrators to be able to use their own common sense in certain cases, particularly like this. A better way to handle this kind of situation would have been to bring the child and his parents into the school and explain all the rules and the importance of those rules, and possibly some small punishment for the child. Then the school could even spend time the next day or later that week explaining in detail, especially to the younger students, all those things that might be considered a weapon and that shouldn't be brought to school.

I've seen and own a few of these tools. Was the "knife" a dull utensil or was it a sharp blade?

You're still leaving out critical details.

If it was a mere dull utensil, then the school is wrong.

If it holds an edge, the school is right and he deserves the suspension.

 

[Jerry]

On each of the 45 days they could jab him hard with a fork. Show him what a knife can do a fluffy baby rabbit.

Great, now I'm hungry.