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White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

I think the problem is the media is always afraid of GOP administrations because they know abuse of Executive Branch power is never far off. Dems they feel safe with.
Personally....I'd like to see some Exec Br. muscle flexed against Fox News....Just to get in their face a bit.
What's Obama got to lose?.....The GOP suddenly gonna try to block his legislation?...They not gonna vote with the Dems?...They gonna bad mouth Obama??
Give me a break!




You seem to want a god king, not a president and a constitution. :shrug:
 
This is turning bad quickly for the WH. I heard last night on CNN a discussion surrounding the flap here, and openly starting to opine if it were put out there as a distraction for all of the things going sour in the WH. I even heard at one point the person respond in the conversation that this is what budding dictators do early in their rise to oppressive power, attack non compliant media sources.

Sad to see what has happened to this country in such a short span of time from a President that preached in his campaign how it was time to put away divisive politics of the past.....Just another lie from Barry.


j-mac
 
This is turning bad quickly for the WH. I heard last night on CNN a discussion surrounding the flap here, and openly starting to opine if it were put out there as a distraction for all of the things going sour in the WH. I even heard at one point the person respond in the conversation that this is what budding dictators do early in their rise to oppressive power, attack non compliant media sources.

Sad to see what has happened to this country in such a short span of time from a President that preached in his campaign how it was time to put away divisive politics of the past.....Just another lie from Barry.


j-mac

Yes sir! SOME folks are actually waking up, even in the liberal media! I must say a little slow, but none the less Some are indeed aware of the threats being perpetrated against Americans and the Constitution..And the willingness of this Administration to do what ever it takes to bring about fundamental SOCIALISM!
 
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ny times on hugo chavez' shutting off of rctv:

Silence = Despotism - New York Times

meanwhile, here in america the white house warns other outlets not to follow fox's suit

so msnbc's morning meeting this am with dylan ratigan interviews republican congressman jason chaffetz on congressional investigations of acorn and countrywide's friends of angelo

Democrats lock Republicans out of committee room - TheHill.com


Heh, I just posted this story on the partisan board. What a joke demo's are eh? Like little children.


j-mac
 
When it's only Fox telling the truth about the czars ... it's far more likely Fox is carrying on political propaganda. Journalism's a highly competitive business. Your Tapper guy would be all over it - if there was news in it.

Fox = propaganda, and Foxies like it just like that.

That's why the administration and house democrats don't dispute what Fox has presented concerning the czars. They only hurl insults, which is the same thing as saying "guilty as charged".

The reason Tapper isn't all over it, is because he works for a network that isn't interested in things that tarnish the image of our all mighty Messiah.

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That is correct; Van Jones, et al., are gone; ACORN is defunded, etc., etc.

Look, here's the thing.

If the White House truly believes that Fox lies and only spreads propaganda, then what would be better than going TO Fox, a fistful of facts in hand, and obliterating them on their own airwaves? What could be more devastating to Fox than that?

If they're afraid of "editing" (which I'm sure they'd cite as a reason not to do it), then make the condition that it be live and unedited. If Fox refuses, then the blame is on them.

This scorched Earth campaign simply reeks of the Chicago Way of not just defeating enemies, but destroying them and salting the Earth. I know some of you want to see the White House use its might to plow under those who have a message you don't want to hear, but to Americans who cherish robust debate, such a thing should be anathema.
 
That is correct; Van Jones, et al., are gone; ACORN is defunded, etc., etc.

Look, here's the thing.

If the White House truly believes that Fox lies and only spreads propaganda, then what would be better than going TO Fox, a fistful of facts in hand, and obliterating them on their own airwaves? What could be more devastating to Fox than that?

If they're afraid of "editing" (which I'm sure they'd cite as a reason not to do it), then make the condition that it be live and unedited. If Fox refuses, then the blame is on them.

This scorched Earth campaign simply reeks of the Chicago Way of not just defeating enemies, but destroying them and salting the Earth. I know some of you want to see the White House use its might to plow under those who have a message you don't want to hear, but to Americans who cherish robust debate, such a thing should be anathema.


I think even the Libbos know the answer to that question
 
abc's white house correspondent jake tapper today takes on gibbs over the fox war:



but opinions, mr gibbs, aren't facts

remember?

Today?s Qs for O?s WH ? 10/20/2009 - Political Punch

Tapper made one of the dumbest arguments ever uttered on national TV. Just because thousands of people work at Fox; how does that prove that Fox is not biased ??? Thousands of people work at the DNC and the RNC; does that mean those organizations are not biased. This is ridiculous. This weak defense demonstrates that Fox is probably guilty as charged.
 
That is correct; Van Jones, et al., are gone; ACORN is defunded, etc., etc.

Look, here's the thing.

If the White House truly believes that Fox lies and only spreads propaganda, then what would be better than going TO Fox, a fistful of facts in hand, and obliterating them on their own airwaves? What could be more devastating to Fox than that?

If they're afraid of "editing" (which I'm sure they'd cite as a reason not to do it), then make the condition that it be live and unedited. If Fox refuses, then the blame is on them.

This scorched Earth campaign simply reeks of the Chicago Way of not just defeating enemies, but destroying them and salting the Earth. I know some of you want to see the White House use its might to plow under those who have a message you don't want to hear, but to Americans who cherish robust debate, such a thing should be anathema.

The bill to defund ACORN has not been signed into law because of claims that it is an unconstitutional Bill of Attainder. Indeed Democrats drafted this defective bill knowing that it would never take effect. And many conservatives went for the head-fake. Fox has spent a lot of resources without much results. Its just another case of "Much Ado About Nothing".

The WH gains nothing from debating Fox because Obama voters do not watch Fox for news. We only watch it for entertainment like we watch Saturday Night Live and the Coulbert Report. The people who watch Fox for news are conservatives who the WH is not trying to reach.

Obama has not tried to "destroy" Fox. He is merely verbalizing a notion that most of us have already realized but did not want to say. So far, no one has come up with evidence to rebut the WH's allegation.
 
That's why the administration and house democrats don't dispute what Fox has presented concerning the czars. They only hurl insults, which is the same thing as saying "guilty as charged".

The reason Tapper isn't all over it, is because he works for a network that isn't interested in things that tarnish the image of our all mighty Messiah.

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Czars??? That dog don't hunt. Many presidents, both Democtratic and Republican, have had Czars. That's why NO ONE except Fox is covering this nonsense.
 
This is turning bad quickly for the WH. I heard last night on CNN a discussion surrounding the flap here, and openly starting to opine if it were put out there as a distraction for all of the things going sour in the WH. I even heard at one point the person respond in the conversation that this is what budding dictators do early in their rise to oppressive power, attack non compliant media sources.

Sad to see what has happened to this country in such a short span of time from a President that preached in his campaign how it was time to put away divisive politics of the past.....Just another lie from Barry.


j-mac

"News of Obama's demise at the hands of Fox has been greatly exaggerated"

Fox-bashing will not cost Obama any losses. Not only has his poll numbers bumped up but so has the public option and other components of his agenda. Fox only reaches a small radical portion of the Republican party. The station does not have a broad-based following that could do harm to Obama. They preach to those who already hate.
 
Czars??? That dog don't hunt. Many presidents, both Democtratic and Republican, have had Czars. That's why NO ONE except Fox is covering this nonsense.

Bush the previous record holder didn't have as many czars during the entire 8 years of his administration as Obama has in his first 9 months. Nobody else is covering the extreme left radicals who Obama has appointed, because the only media network which is not a branch of the ministry of propaganda for the Fascist in Chief is Fox News.
 
The bill to defund ACORN has not been signed into law because of claims that it is an unconstitutional Bill of Attainder. Indeed Democrats drafted this defective bill knowing that it would never take effect.

Ya because they support continuing the tax payer funding of co-conspirators in a child prostitution ring. Nice.
 
Obama has not tried to "destroy" Fox. He is merely verbalizing a notion that most of us have already realized but did not want to say. So far, no one has come up with evidence to rebut the WH's allegation.

Obama is trying to destroy the 1st amendment and the free press. He is a corporatist fascist and does not condone any opposition which is why he just threatened the entire MSM. The White House openly admits that they control the press, that is why they hate Fox News, because they don't control it.
 
Tapper made one of the dumbest arguments ever uttered on national TV. Just because thousands of people work at Fox; how does that prove that Fox is not biased ??? Thousands of people work at the DNC and the RNC; does that mean those organizations are not biased. This is ridiculous. This weak defense demonstrates that Fox is probably guilty as charged.

you see tapper as defending fox?

LOL!
 
Czars??? That dog don't hunt. Many presidents, both Democtratic and Republican, have had Czars. That's why NO ONE except Fox is covering this nonsense.

sure, that's why van jones was sacrificed

within a week of glenn beck (LOL!) making his name household

sure, lots of admin's hire pedophile protecting SCHOOL CZARS

why, all kinds of mainstream scientists advocate FORCED STERILIZATION

indeed, my hi school biology teacher...

well, let's not go there

and my lawyer, 10th justice, gosh, you shoulda seen what he did to my cocker spaniel in court
 
The bill to defund ACORN has not been signed into law because of claims that it is an unconstitutional Bill of Attainder. Indeed Democrats drafted this defective bill knowing that it would never take effect. And many conservatives went for the head-fake. Fox has spent a lot of resources without much results. Its just another case of "Much Ado About Nothing".

The WH gains nothing from debating Fox because Obama voters do not watch Fox for news. We only watch it for entertainment like we watch Saturday Night Live and the Coulbert Report. The people who watch Fox for news are conservatives who the WH is not trying to reach.

Obama has not tried to "destroy" Fox. He is merely verbalizing a notion that most of us have already realized but did not want to say. So far, no one has come up with evidence to rebut the WH's allegation.


In this country it has always been the law that the accuser must present valid charges against the accused before any action can proceed. You are suggesting that one is guilty until he can prove innocence. Thank God we are not Hitler's Germany.

J.P. Bill
 
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Bush the previous record holder didn't have as many czars during the entire 8 years of his administration as Obama has in his first 9 months. Nobody else is covering the extreme left radicals who Obama has appointed, because the only media network which is not a branch of the ministry of propaganda for the Fascist in Chief is Fox News.

So, let me get this straight: the number of appointed Czars determines whether a president is a "fascist"??? Are you advocating a Czar Quota be imposed in the WH??? I thought conservatives were against quotas :shock:!!!
Given the crisis Obama inherited and the "gotcha" politics of today's Washington D.C.; Obama has used the Czar system more than other presidents. So what!!! How does that make him a fascist???

Nobody is covering this story because there is "no there...there". Fox is obsessed with this story because the word "czar" conjures up communist images from the minds of the very old, conservative hardliners who primarily grew up during the Cold-War. But for younger voters this story seems childish.
 
In this country it has always been the law that the accuser must present valid charges against the accused before any action can proceed. You are suggesting that one is guilty until he can prove innocence. Thank God we are not Hitler's Germany.

J.P. Bill

You're confusing Law with Politics. In politics a well-stated allegation, from a credible source, that is not successfully rebutted within 72 hrs.; becomes the truth. Fox propagated absurdities like "death panels", "euthanasia" and "Obama's secret domestic armies". So when Obama made his criticism of the network; there was already enough evidence in the public domain to support his conclusion. Now its up to Fox or the other media to refute the WH. By calling Fox out publicly, the WH is daring someone to prove them wrong.
 
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for younger voters this story seems childish

younger voters---LOL!

they must be tots

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czars are one thing

pedophile protectors are another

forced sterilization advocates make bad politics in america

so do mao admirers

manufacturing czar rod bloom agrees with the communications director and mankind's most megalomaniacal mass murderer, he says, in that "political power grows out of the barrel of a gun"

according to bloom

obama went on nbc's morning show this am and ran away from the fox war

i've got health care and afghanistan to deal with, he said

"i'm not losing sleep" over fnc, he reassured

well, that's good to hear

he needs his rest

fighting fox is foregone, obama's finding

hannity began his program tonite with an ominous voiced over disclaimer:

WARNING: THIS PROGRAM IS NOT WHITE HOUSE APPROVED

everyone's LAUGHING

when's the last time you heard the word "astroturf?"

why did obama apologists quit calling his critics racist?
 
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mike barnicle, boston globe and msnbc, on this morning's coffee joe:

with the economy, afghanistan and health care to consider, "politically, focusing on fox news is like concentrating on rhode island at the expense of california"
 
Yes sir! SOME folks are actually waking up, even in the liberal media! I must say a little slow, but none the less Some are indeed aware of the threats being perpetrated against Americans and the Constitution..And the willingness of this Administration to do what ever it takes to bring about fundamental SOCIALISM!

The Lib media is too big and too loyal to "get it" for too long. Look at how they treat Clinton, Gore and Carter... and how they treated our troops during the Iraq War.

The Lib Media may have bad moments in the eyes of the WH and their Obamatrons, but no wholesale flip will occur. They don't value the Constitution either. How can they?

The partisan press hounds truly love only one blood type... R.

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nbc's savannah guthrie was interviewed by willie geist on msnbc's "way too early" just 5 minutes ago concerning her one-on-one with obama on wednesday's "today"

apparently, tho mr obama is not losing any sleep over current events, ms guthrie and mr geist are

on afghanistan, where obama has been upbraided by his own defense secty gates who explains that the pentagon really can't afford to "sit on its hands" while obama, in cheney's words, "dithers," taking his delicious, deliberative time to come to decision

obama told ms guthrie---yes, he might come to a conclusion about afghanistan BEFORE karzai's upcoming runoff, but the president might maybe not announce whatever his latest resolution might ultimately turn out to be until later

pressed by geist, ms guthrie found the president's thinking odd, especially after chief of staff rahm the ram reasoned on sunday's cnn that to do so, to reach determination in advance of the runoff, would be "reckless"

she sees the prez adopting a position his own chief of staff only 4 days ago described as "reckless"

first, obama is at odds with his own pentagon, now with his ram

1. the commander in chief hasn't a clue what he's doing

2. msnbc must not have received the memo mailed last sunday by axelrod and his allies admonishing the msm's not to follow fox's footsteps

3. fox will certainly be discussing savannah's interviews today, tomorrow and subsequently, they're so newsbreaking, worthy and interesting

compliments to the peacocks
 
"News of Obama's demise at the hands of Fox has been greatly exaggerated"


Quote whom? Obama is not going to see demise at the hands of FOX News that's right, but what Obama's problem is simply is that he is a liar. He lied to the American people to get the job, and is now failing miserably. That will not go unnoticed for long, sycophant media or not.


Fox-bashing will not cost Obama any losses.


We will have to wait and see won't we? Fox has more viewers than the other cable networks combined x 2.


Not only has his poll numbers bumped up but so has the public option and other components of his agenda.


As was pointed out last night, although his personal likability numbers are up, his job approval number continue to sag, couple that with numbers that show that when you specifically ask people if they want a 'government' run option as a mandate to their health care, and they are overwhelmingly against that.


Fox only reaches a small radical portion of the Republican party. The station does not have a broad-based following that could do harm to Obama. They preach to those who already hate.


Simply not true. You should really do some independent research on that, instead of relying on liberal sources for your talking points. Fox in studies has been shown to have just that broad based viewership you say they don't....I think it was something like 61% Demo, and Indy following. And Bob Beckel, Carters advisor, NO RIGHTIE, says his own polls show at least 50% So......:2wave:


j-mac
 
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