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White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

From the linked Politico article in this blurb:




The WH clearly does not believe they made a mistake going down this path. I don't think they did either. It is a farce pretending they are a news organization.
I suspect that you will need to update your opinion after the news ratings come out.
 
This is a brilliant move by the Whitehouse. Obama said, during his speech before the joint session of congress, that he would start "calling people out" if they interject a bunch of nonsense into the public debate while grown folks are discussing business. Fox is so rabidly right-wing that any neutral observer will quickly reach the same conclusion Obama did. Now, anyone citing Fox News as a source will be immediately discredited and even if Fox gets more viewers they will definitely have less believers. Great Move Obama!!!

Doubtful. This will backfire on them bigtime. I'm one of the neutral observers you mention.

I started watching FOXNews about 4 years ago, mostly because I wanted to see for myself what all this vitriol they were getting from the left was based on. I was suprised to find that their actual news programs were as good, if not better, than CNN's. I was also surprised by the fact that O'Reilly was nowhere near as extreme as I was led to believe. Yes, they're obviously conservative, but that is not a bad thing. It's not about being a "believer", it's about the need to hear another point of view to get the whole picture.
 
Doubtful. This will backfire on them bigtime. I'm one of the neutral observers you mention.

I started watching FOXNews about 4 years ago, mostly because I wanted to see for myself what all this vitriol they were getting from the left was based on. I was suprised to find that their actual news programs were as good, if not better, than CNN's. I was also surprised by the fact that O'Reilly was nowhere near as extreme as I was led to believe. Yes, they're obviously conservative, but that is not a bad thing. It's not about being a "believer", it's about the need to hear another point of view to get the whole picture.

No harm will come to the Whitehouse because they are not in the media business with Fox. But I think its about time that someone with authority render a final verdict about Fox News and its deceptive reporting. I don't think Fox can recover after being dissed by the POTUS. And you are dead wrong: Fox does not deliver a point of view that gives you the "whole picture", they give you a distorted picture. There is no way you can claim that news reports about "death panels", "euthanasia" and "secret plots" to install communism has added anything to the public debate in this country.
 
Anita Dunn's a 'tard. But I couldn't really care less about Fox vs. MSNBC or any of that crap. There's no way the govt really controls the media (thank jesus).
 
No harm will come to the Whitehouse because they are not in the media business with Fox. But I think its about time that someone with authority render a final verdict about Fox News and its deceptive reporting. I don't think Fox can recover after being dissed by the POTUS. And you are dead wrong: Fox does not deliver a point of view that gives you the "whole picture", they give you a distorted picture. There is no way you can claim that news reports about "death panels", "euthanasia" and "secret plots" to install communism has added anything to the public debate in this country.

OH! I see! The POTUS dissed them, so that takes away ALL their credibility!! :rofl I wonder, did you feel this way about everything and everyone Bush dissed too? You know, when he was the POTUS and all?

Also, I did not say that Fox delivers a point of view that gives me the whole picture. I said that Fox was one, among dozens, of the news channels I watch that contributes to my vision of the whole picture. Their distortions are no worse than those I see on other news networks. They're just more colorful and a whole lot less boring. I'd rather endure an hour of Glen Beck's tearful rants, than 5 minutes of Keith Olberman's mind-numbingly boring BS. But that's just me. :lol:
 
the white house can't even get its silly story straight

first, fox was to be blacklisted because it had a conservative "point of view"

next, it was assailed by the white house for being profit oriented

"rupert murdoch has a talent for making money," averred axelrod on abc

he was talking to (LOL!) stephanopoulos

gibbs---programming on fox is tilted to "accentuate profits"

hume's anti obama agenda pays?

all of em, axelrod, rahm the ram and valerie jarrett, the leading proponent of a windy city olympics, admonished the alphabets not to follow fox's suit

unfortunately, even that advice avails not

stephy, gregory and john king eviscerated the admin sunday

ask eric massa

ask the LA times and washington post

ask david carr of the grey lady (ny times)

ask david gergen and donna brazile

ask dylan ratigan of msnbc's morning meeting, more critical of the white house than krauthammer

ask snl

after LOL'ing obama 2 weekends ago for accomplishing jack and squat, after needling nobel the following week, lorne michaels' creation last saturday teased the prez for his lack of "toughness"

after receiving some advice to become more aggressive, armisen suddenly split his shirt seams and emerged the incredible hulk

played by dwayne johnson, barack's alter ego was introduced as "the rock obama"

the president used to paint himself as post partisan

now, all his people backpedal---we'll go on fox, don't make more of this than it is

what a bunch of adolescent amateurs
 
thank you ee cummings

for that lesson

in how

different people

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Coward implies Obama failed to battle against opposition. Is Fox News to be viewed as partisan opposition against Obama?

When only one network asks real journalistic questions, rather than throw softball setup questions, then one could consider visiting that network a challenge. Avoiding such a tough interview could easily be interpreted as cowardism!
 
Are the Republicans no longer the conservative party????

Because FNC is a conservative leaning news and editorial entertainment network. Its most popular programs are NEWS-BASED OPINION SHOWS... Um...

So, it's not really a 'News' network per say, more like 24-hr micheal moore network for conservatives and their party... THE REPUBLICAN PARTY...

You can parse words all day long, scorp. You know what she meant. It's clear to the rest of us. And, I think it's clear to you.

Their highest rated shows might be opinion-based, but the majority of those shows have opposing opinions on the show at some time. Also, FOX also kicks ass on the regular news portions also.

You state that FOX is right leaning only because most of the networks are so leftist leaning. Only a liberal could make such an assertion, even if he/she labels him/herself as a moderate.
 
...only one network asks real journalistic questions...

"Have we ever seen a President be so public about his spirituality?" - Dari Alexander, Fox News 8/29/2004

"Let me tell you something. My studio here is set at 65 degrees right now. If I could get it to 40, I would. And you know what? I don't really care if it hurts the feelings of some Frenchy Frenchman. Boo hoo, cry me a river. I'm going on living my life the way I choose to live it. And if that includes 18 hours of TV and Doritos, that's my choice, baby -- or is it?" - Glenn Beck, 8/21/2008

"[Obama] could win the White House with the power to pass all of his left-wing legislation. Sounds scary? What a liberal supermajority could do to the United States. That's all coming up on a special edition of HANNITY'S AMERICA." - Sean Hannity 10/26/2008

"Cindy McCain has given the homes to her family, to her daughter. And Barack Obama can't give $100 to a brother that makes -- lives on less than a dollar a month? I will give $1,000 to his brother. If they give me the address I'll give him $1,000." - Sean Hannity, 8/21/2008

"'In God we trust,' are you going to whip that off the money?" - Bill O'Reilly, 10/31/2008

"Are the three networks avoiding identifying Governor Blagojevich as a Democrat?" - Bill O'Reilly 12/11/2008

"...why doesn't [Michelle Obama] wear panty hose? She is too tall. It doesn't work right." - Fred Barnes, 6/21/2008
 
"Have we ever seen a President be so public about his spirituality?" - Dari Alexander, Fox News 8/29/2004

"Let me tell you something. My studio here is set at 65 degrees right now. If I could get it to 40, I would. And you know what? I don't really care if it hurts the feelings of some Frenchy Frenchman. Boo hoo, cry me a river. I'm going on living my life the way I choose to live it. And if that includes 18 hours of TV and Doritos, that's my choice, baby -- or is it?" - Glenn Beck, 8/21/2008

"[Obama] could win the White House with the power to pass all of his left-wing legislation. Sounds scary? What a liberal supermajority could do to the United States. That's all coming up on a special edition of HANNITY'S AMERICA." - Sean Hannity 10/26/2008

"Cindy McCain has given the homes to her family, to her daughter. And Barack Obama can't give $100 to a brother that makes -- lives on less than a dollar a month? I will give $1,000 to his brother. If they give me the address I'll give him $1,000." - Sean Hannity, 8/21/2008

"'In God we trust,' are you going to whip that off the money?" - Bill O'Reilly, 10/31/2008

"Are the three networks avoiding identifying Governor Blagojevich as a Democrat?" - Bill O'Reilly 12/11/2008

"...why doesn't [Michelle Obama] wear panty hose? She is too tall. It doesn't work right." - Fred Barnes, 6/21/2008

Now let's see some quotes from Fox news shows instead of their entertainment shows. Them you might have a point.
 
I tune into FNC to get their perspective (which I know to be right-leaning) and challenge my own views. Do all FNC viewers watch in this manner?

Absolutely agree with you there. I tune in Fox strictly to hear the GOP's spin on issues....Problem is...some people turn it on thinking they are really getting Fair & Balanced news..(as opposed to GOP spin)......& then link to Fox as proof of their far right claims.
The WH has it exactly right.....Fox is not a legitimate news organization any more than the RNC is....Fox is the media arm of the GOP & should be required to register as such.

MSNBC is now claiming #1 status in ratings......I hope that is true!
 
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I think this whole obsession with Fox News by a sitting president is disturbing.



Fox news is no different than MSNBC yet he only calls out FOX? seems only partisan hacks would agree that FOX is "not news" but somehow "MSNBC" is. :shrug:
 
I think this whole obsession with Fox News by a sitting president is disturbing.



Fox news is no different than MSNBC yet he only calls out FOX? seems only partisan hacks would agree that FOX is "not news" but somehow "MSNBC" is. :shrug:

I disagree. Everyone knows that MSNBC has a liberal bias but....unlike Fox.....It does disagree with it's party (Dems) & even with Obama. Fox is pretty much a straight RNC voice & even creates news (ie Teabagging events) instead of just reporting on them.
I personally have never heard Hannity or any of them disagree with a RNC posotion.....Keith Olberman disagree with obama quite often.
 
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Now let's see some quotes from Fox news shows instead of their entertainment shows. Them you might have a point.

most of the shows on Fox are opinion shows. more time is spent per day on opinions than news.
 
most of the shows on Fox are opinion shows. more time is spent per day on opinions than news.

Some of their opinion shows claim to be presenting actual news. (Hannity's lie about Obama's speech for example)
 
MSNBC is now claiming #1 status in ratings......I hope that is true!

:rofl That's hillarious !!!

O'Reilly's late night reruns beat MSNBC's prime time shows.

Q3 Cable Ratings: FNC Shows Fill Top 10; #3 Network on Cable; Beck Grows Timeslot 136%
By Chris Ariens on Sep 29, 2009 04:35 PM

If you've been following the cable news ratings, and we know you have, you'll know Fox News has been dominating, even more than usual, in 2009. In the just-finished third quarter, Fox News beat CNN and MSNBC combined in Total Viewers and the A25-54 demo in both total day and primetime viewing. FNC is also the only cable news network to post across the board gains vs. Q3 '08.

• In Total Viewers, FNC was up 2% in primetime and up 8% in total day.

• In A25-54 viewers, FNC was up 5% in primetime and up 12% in total day.

• FNC was the third-ranked cable network behind ESPN and USA.

• FNC had the top 10 programs in cable news. "The O'Reilly Factor" has been the #1 cable news show for 106 consecutive months. From 4pmET to 11pmET, all of FNC's programs showed growth, most double digits:

Rank/Show — Total Viewer / A25-54 demo growth
2. "Hannity," -- 9% / 17%
3. "Glenn Beck," -- 89% / 136%
4. "On the Record," -- 16% / 21%
5. "Special Report" -- 20% / 34%
6. "The FOX Report" -- 9% / 18%
9. "Your World" -- 16% / 27%

And for the month of September, FNC claimed the Top 13 programs in cable news in Total Viewers, which hasn't happened since Nov. 2004. It was the network's best month for the year in today day with Total Viewers and A25-54 viewers. Also, "America's Newsroom" (9-11amET) with Megyn Kelly and Bill Hemmer had its highest rated month (and quarter) in A25-54 viewers.
Q3 Cable Ratings: FNC Shows Fill Top 10; #3 Network on Cable; Beck Grows Timeslot 136% - mediabistro.com: TVNewser
 
Some of their opinion shows claim to be presenting actual news. (Hannity's lie about Obama's speech for example)

Hannity does not claim to be reporting news. It is most definitely opinion.
 
I disagree. Everyone knows that MSNBC has a liberal bias but....unlike Fox.....It does disagree with it's party (Dems) & even with Obama. Fox is pretty much a straight RNC voice & even creates news (ie Teabagging events) instead of just reporting on them.
I personally have never heard Hannity or any of them disagree with a RNC posotion.....Keith Olberman disagree with obama quite often.





I think the fact you use rude terms like "teabagging events" and hold MSNBC to a different standard than fox betrays your partisanism.


Fox had nothing to do with organizing Tea party events.


That said, I know hannity was against the bailouts, O'reilly is pro gun control and often disagrees with republicans. Beck is a libertarian, albiet a nut case as well. Shep smith is a democrat. so is van susteren, Alan colmes is liberal.

This is all easily verifiable. MSNBC and FOX are different wings of the same bird. :shrug:
 
most of the shows on Fox are opinion shows. more time is spent per day on opinions than news.

tell it to olbermann, maddow, matthews, rattigan, scarborough and their half dozen or so viewers

tell it to situation room, lou dobbs, campbell brown, anderson cooper (son of the poor little rich girl), larry king and his half dozen wives
 
:rofl That's hillarious !!!

O'Reilly's late night reruns beat MSNBC's prime time shows.

I guess you can prove any point you want with a link to somewhere. As far as O'Reilly is concerned...His radio & tv shows are infomercials to sell his books & products.
The man is boring & a joke. (always says "I'll give you the last word"....& then cuts their mic & takes the last word!)
 
Fox had nothing to do with organizing Tea party events.

Right! :lol::lol:

They ran the things@!


One quick link:
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=did+Fox+or...OL+oVBGNXskg/1qRbDM/dddddw=&tsp=1256048556438

Fox News’s ‘coverage’ of tea parties: 23 segments, 73 on-air promos in eight days.

As ThinkProgress has documented, Fox News has aggressively promoted today’s conservative, anti-Obama tea parties. A Media Matters analysis found that Fox dedicated 23 separate segments to the tea parties between April 6 and April 13; it aired at least 73 in-show and commercial promotions for the parties as well. Of all the Fox programs, Neil Cavuto’s “Your World” dedicated the most time to the tea parties:
 
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I guess you can prove any point you want with a link to somewhere.

The truth is the truth no matter where it comes from.

As far as O'Reilly is concerned...His radio & tv shows are infomercials to sell his books & products.

Very true, but has no bearing at all on the discussion.

The man is boring & a joke. (always says "I'll give you the last word"....& then cuts their mic & takes the last word!)

Are you going to bash Bill the talking head O'Reilly or make a point valid to the thread?
 
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