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White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the objectivity of a news organization reporting on itself.
With no specific supporting evidence to give you reason to do so.
 
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I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the objectivity of a news organization reporting on itself.

Fox News is not just a news organization. Rupert Murdoch admitted himself that they are activists and that they intentionally seek to influence public opinion. So yes, in this light, it is perfectly appropriate for FNC to be reporting on it's own 'activities.'
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

They 'fact check' the way Michael Moore does, from a certain point of view. It's mostly editorial with a right-leaning slant. Get over it, goobie...

Do you have specific examples of this? Especially vis-a-vis the "offending" Fox News Sunday piece to which Dunn referred?

Is there anything there which was inappropriate? State it with specificity.

Do you agree with Dunn that "no Sunday show" has ever "fact-checked" before?
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

The "main stream media" has been complicate in all things White House related and even before that were in bed with the Obama Campaign either by choice or through the manipulation Anita Dunn just said about they used them to get their messages across.
Fox News has chosen to use the basics of news reporting telling the who what when where and why and let the chips fall where they may. They also looked into the number of radicals, socialist, communist, anarchists from the green movement members, and those who just hate the American way and they expose them for what they are in there own words.
As I have pointed out before the Media in all it's forms are supposed to be the 4 estate looking out for the American people in support of the Constitution and principles it stands for, and in the last year and a half the majority of the Media in this country has become the fifth column. For those uneducated lefties that don't know the meaning of 5th column here it is from and encyclopedia and please don't make me explain what that is.
5 th Column = A clandestine group or faction of subversive agents who attempt to undermine a nation’s solidarity by any means at their disposal.
This explains better than anything else what the Chis Mathews, Keith Obermann, types along with there networks have become.
They wonder why their ratings are down but it's no surprise they are extremely liberal and according to recent surveys, between 19 and 26 percent of the Americas are liberals, and that leaves most Americans as either conservative or moderates.
The White fears Fox but they like most Liberals are unable to fight the message because the truth and facts are against them so they attach the messenger with false claims to obfuscate the truth.
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Lets look at all sides of the story instead of quoting Fox News on how right Fox News is.

Wallace's "fact check" ignores his prior "death book" falsehoods, advances new one | Media Matters for America

How Conservatives Got The Facts Wrong On Their Latest Obsession: The "Death Book" For Veterans

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalp...4.html?cid=6a00d8341c4df253ef0120a63719a8970c

Oh, and here is the pamphlet, "Your life your Choices". http://www.rihlp.org/pubs/Your_life_your_choices.pdf. Read through it and make up your own minds on it.


IMHO, this administration is shooting itself in the foot by fighting with FoxNews. This administration is out-matched in this battle with little hope for survival. News agencies, ALL new agencies, lives are dedicated to the spinning of messages to meet their agenda.
 
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Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Fox is obviously wrong for fact checking the white house.

You're supposed to fact check Comedy Shows, not white house officials. Hasn't CNN taught us anything?
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

This administration has repeatedly confronted or singled out the right wing media, and every time they do the administration comes off as childish. There are serious problems with the media in this country and particularly with the politicization of the media, but they are systemic problems. It's plain that the Obama administration does not have qualms with "news" organizations pushing a particular viewpoint, they just have a problem with the viewpoint that Fox is pushing. By failing to either take the media as a whole to task or show how Fox is different from other organizations and therefore deserving of separate treatment the White House comes off as partisan hacks.
 
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Fox is obviously wrong for fact checking the white house.

Fox's so-called fact checking is grossly lacking in any objectivity. When they use Heritage Foundation stats and GOP talking points as their 'fact checks'...

Come off it, Zyphlin... I'm embarrassed for you.
 
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Fox's so-called fact checking is grossly lacking in any objectivity. When they use Heritage Foundation stats and GOP talking points as their 'fact checks'...

Come off it, Zyphlin... I'm embarrassed for you.

Ah, you don't seem to get it . . .

Dunn says Fox fact-checking at all is inappropriate, because "no Sunday show" does that.

Besides, facts are facts and if they're wrong, they're wrong. :shrug:
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Fox's so-called fact checking is grossly lacking in any objectivity.
Show this to be true.
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Ah, you don't seem to get it . . .

Dunn says Fox fact-checking at all is inappropriate, because "no Sunday show" does that.

Besides, facts are facts and if they're wrong, they're wrong. :shrug:

PARSING, PARSING, PARSING....

ALERT...ALERT...I HAVE NO VALID POINT, SO I'LL JUST REFOCUS THE DISCUSSION ON ONE SPECIFIC COMMENT...I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY PRECIOUS FNC PROPAGANDA NETWORK ANYMORE...

Honestly, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Dunn?

Sunday shows are discussion shows?

???

Fox news editorial vs. news vs. ...???


BTW, if the facts are wrong, they're not...um... factual.:doh
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

I'm waiting for something otherthan Fox News reporting on its self
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

If FNC is not a news channel as such and if this was confirmed at an earlier date by Rupert Murdoch, why would the White House permit a "facts check" when the facts check was being requested by a channel similiar to The Comedy Channel?

I don't believe that the White House would respond to a fact check from that channel either.
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

PARSING, PARSING, PARSING....

ALERT...ALERT...I HAVE NO VALID POINT, SO I'LL JUST REFOCUS THE DISCUSSION ON ONE SPECIFIC COMMENT...I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY PRECIOUS FNC PROPAGANDA NETWORK ANYMORE...

Honestly, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Dunn?

Sunday shows are discussion shows?

???

Of course you don't know what I'm talking about; you have a habit of seeing exactly what you want to see, as I've pointed out before.

From the OP:

The White House stopped providing guests to 'Fox News Sunday' after Wallace fact-checked controversial assertions made by Tammy Duckworth, assistant secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, in August. Dunn said fact-checking an administration official was "something I've never seen a Sunday show do."


(Video of it here.)

White House Says Fox Is Not A News Network | NewsBusters.org

BTW, if the facts are wrong, they're not...um... factual.:doh

Uh, yeah, which is why it doesn't matter if Fox News quotes the Heritage Foundation for a fact being wrong if it is, in fact, wrong. :roll:
 
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It's too bad that the Obama Administration doesn't realize that by giving attention to a single news network they only legitimize many of the things that are being said about them. One would think that a Presidential Administration would have far bigger fish to fry.

When you cannot respond with honesty and transparency, you attack the messenger.

This is just illustrative of what the Democrat party represents these days, a reprehensible demagogueing hyper partisan leftist party which knows that if they espoused their political policies honestly, transparently and in the open, they could never win an election in this nation. At least not yet; give the Librul educators enough time and they will have sufficient numbers if empty headed uniformed Americans to guarantee Democrat majorities regardless of the destructive nature of their partisan policies.

These kinds of tactics are something you would expect from morons like Hugo Chavez and Castro; gotta love all this change eh?
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Show this to be true.

Media Matters for America

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ailes]Roger Ailes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Ailes served as a political consultant for many Republican candidates during the 1960s, 70s and 80s. His first such job was as media advisor for the Nixon campaign in 1968. He returned to presidential campaigning as a consultant to Ronald Reagan in 1984. He is widely credited with having coached Reagan to victory in the second presidential debate with Walter Mondale.

Grow up.

If you're that out of touch with reality, I can't help you.
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

They are putting an editorial, propaganda outlet in it's place.

The WH is open to dealing with real journalists.

:rofl This is truly laughable; yes folks, according to the forum Libruls, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN are merely reporting the facts and not acting as editorial, propaganda mouthpieces supporting the Librul agenda of this administration.

Good lord, you didn't just drink the kool-aid, you chugged it dude! :rofl
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Of course you don't know what I'm talking about; you have a habit of seeing exactly what you want to see, as I've pointed out before.

From the OP:




(Video of it here.)

White House Says Fox Is Not A News Network | NewsBusters.org



Uh, yeah, which is why it doesn't matter if Fox News quotes the Heritage Foundation for a fact being wrong if it is, in fact, wrong. :roll:

Yeah, so...

How does that (right, wrong, or debatable) have anything to do with this thread and the overall discussion.

You're trying to make the discussion about one particular quote when many things have been stated and restated by both sides.

FACT CHECKING. FNC does it the same way Michael Moore does (ON SUNDAY AND EVERY OTHER DAY OF THE WEEK)

How are so many intelligent people not coming to grips with what FNC is and has been since its inception. "Fair and Balanced" is a slogan. A VERY IRONIC slogan.
 
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Fox News 'fact checks' Asst Secy Duckworth:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5fCAJ7iU7o"]YouTube - Fox edits Duckworth comment then calls her a liar.[/ame]


:roll:
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Yeah, so...
You dont see the relevance in a response thwy fully supports his position and completely undermines yours?

Of course you dont -- what was I thinking? :doh

FACT CHECKING. FNC does it the same way Michael Moore does (ON SUNDAY AND EVERY OTHER DAY OF THE WEEK)
Show this to be true.
 
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:rofl This is truly laughable; yes folks, according to the forum Libruls, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN are merely reporting the facts.

Where did anyone say that? Esp abote MSNBC in this thread.
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

Yeah, so...

How does that (right, wrong, or debatable) have anything to do with this thread and the overall discussion.

You're trying to make the discussion about one particular quote when many things have been stated and restated by both sides.

Considering the quote is part of the whole point of the OP, I'd call it very relevant. :roll:

If it's not the discussion you actually want to engage in, it's not my problem.


FACT CHECKING. FNC does it the same way Michael Moore does (ON SUNDAY AND EVERY OTHER DAY OF THE WEEK)

You have yet to provide specifics.


How are so many intelligent people not coming to grips with what FNC is and has been since its inception. "Fair and Balanced" is a slogan. A VERY IRONIC slogan.

No more so than any other networks' claims to the same thing. :shrug:

What is it about one network out of many that threatens some people so much? If you don't like it, don't watch it. :shrug:
 
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Fox News is not just a news organization. Rupert Murdoch admitted himself that they are activists and that they intentionally seek to influence public opinion. So yes, in this light, it is perfectly appropriate for FNC to be reporting on it's own 'activities.'

I find it amusing that Libruls deliberately choose, or perhaps are just ignorant, of the difference between the reporting of news, and the talk shows that represent the OPINIONS of the hosts.

ANYONE who has spent time looking at the news stories presented by Fox versus all the other sources will see that Fox reports the same AP lines that the others do; the primary difference is that when they have suspect stories, they actually ask the questions and fact check.

The other organizations would prefer NOT to know when it comes to this administrations farcical policies and agenda.

What I find amusing about many on this forum who would like to believe they are informed and whom make this farcical argument; why does ONE news organization frighten Libruls and this administration so much? Is the worry that the truth might actually get out?

I always believed that a society benefits from a large variety of news sources and opinions; why are Libruls so afraid of diverse opinions and news sources? Simple; because the truth is not to their benefit.
 
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Where did anyone say that? Esp abote MSNBC in this thread.

In TD's world the events don't have to actually occur for him to make derogatory comment about those events and liberals.

Yes folks, he can make this type of delusion up.
 
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