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White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

Scorpion89 said:
Republican only controlled Congress from 1996 to 2000 so shall we try to again, oh and who was it that pushed for certain rules to be laxed like Housing Mortages and Banking Loans hmmm.
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Who controlled congress from 2000-2006?
 
goldendog said:
Who controlled congress from 2000-2006?
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Neither party from 2000-2002 the Dems controlled the House from 2003-2005 it was a split with the Rep having a 1 vote Majority in 2006 the Dems took controll of both the House ans Senate.

Oh and for the record it was the Dems who came up with and passed The Patriots Act, Go to War in Iraq and spend the so-called Clinton Surplus.

And futher more Our national Debt is ~12 Trillion dollars, of which 9.2 TRILLION (~3/40 was BORROWED in the years that DEMOCRATS controlled BOTH houses.

When Republicans Controlled both houses 1995-2000,2003-2006. Borrowed only 1.2 Trillion or about 1/10th.

the Republicans had 4 balanced or suplus Budgets in 4 CONSECUTIVE years, the ONLY TIME in our 233 year history.

The Democrats balanced the Budget in 1969.

So which party is more FISCALLY responsible. the Party that has balanced and given us surpluses 4 consectutive years.

So shall we try this once again.
 
Whiner-in-Chief

The White House would do well to take some friendly advice here.
 
apdst said:
What policies did the Republicans inact that caused the recession?
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I think it's more a combination of what they didn't do and what they refused to do along with policies and decisions they did do. None of which was in the best interests of America as a whole and most of which had to do with lamebrain decisions that sent our economy in a downward spiral. All while making every attempt to deny all of it. I say they should keep up that attitude towards our country...it tells me good things are in store for the Republican party.

McCain suspended his campaign because the ecomony was in meltdown don't you remember?
 
You're right. One of the things they DIDN'T do was act on the warnings about FannieMae and FreddieMac back in 2003, when they allowed themselves to be cowed by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, & Co. into letting the corruption and mismanagement continue.
 
Harshaw said:
You're right. One of the things they DIDN'T do was act on the warnings about FannieMae and FreddieMac back in 2003, when they allowed themselves to be cowed by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, & Co. into letting the corruption and mismanagement continue.
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What exactly was Phil Gramm's role in the economic meltdown?
 
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goldendog said:
I think it's more a combination of what they didn't do and what they refused to do along with policies and decisions they did do. None of which was in the best interests of America as a whole and most of which had to do with lamebrain decisions that sent our economy in a downward spiral. All while making every attempt to deny all of it. I say they should keep up that attitude towards our country...it tells me good things are in store for the Republican party.

McCain suspended his campaign because the ecomony was in meltdown don't you remember?
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Oh, it's about what they didn't do? I see. That makes zero sense, Dog.

So, what is it that they didn't do that caused the recession?
 
Scorpion89 said:
White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News - Political News - FOXNews.com

Calling Fox News "a wing of the Republican Party," the Obama administration on Sunday escalated its war of words against the channel, even as observers questioned the wisdom of a White House war on a news organization.

"What I think is fair to say about Fox -- and certainly it's the way we view it -- is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party," said Anita Dunn, White House communications director, on CNN. "They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that's fine. But let's not pretend they're a news network the way CNN is."
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LOL...
I guess this is their practice for their big day with I'minajihad.
And then throwing in CNN... ROTFLMFAO... send this crew to Saturday Night Live.
They could use some rich material.

Why don't they talk about our enemies with half as much spine?

LOL.
 
zimmer said:
LOL...
I guess this is their practice for their big day with I'minajihad.
And then throwing in CNN... ROTFLMFAO... send this crew to Saturday Night Live.
They could use some rich material.

Why don't they talk about our enemies with half as much spine?

LOL.
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That's hillarious!!!!
 
American said:
vauge, I don't think anyone here considers commentary news. However there is genuine news on Fox. I think we know that the shows like Hannity and O'Reilly are not intended to be pure news, but commentary. BTW, commentary is not necessarily untrue.
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To me, there's commentators, and there's WILD AND WACKY POLITICAL GUY WITH AN OPINION OF FORCE! *insert random metal music here*.

One sounds reasonably intelligent, even if you completely disagree with him or her...the other is like some really bad scene from Idiocracy that was cut out in the storyboard room. It's like the difference between watching EJ Dionne talking and listening to this.[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs"]YouTube - Powerthirst[/ame] One can talk like a human being, the other has to scream, be rude, be totally manly, have stupidly loud and flashy intros between segments, and make sure that they put out a book with meaningless dribble every year or so that has been said by their colleagues a million times over.
 
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American said:
vauge, I don't think anyone here considers commentary news. However there is genuine news on Fox. I think we know that the shows like Hannity and O'Reilly are not intended to be pure news, but commentary. BTW, commentary is not necessarily untrue.
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To further your argument.


December 19, 2004
Roger Ailes
FOX News, Chairman & CEO
http://www.q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1001
LAMB: Is there anything wrong with a news organization taking or having a point of view?

AILES: Well, I think there's a difference between news and analysis/opinion. What I saw them do -- they recently did a news meeting up at Stanford, which -- you know, heads of news at Stanford is sort of redundant. But in any case, no. If -- as long as you label it as -- you know, you know this is an opinion show.

What they're trying to do is say that Fox News is mixing opinion and fact. That's just simply not true. I mean, if you watch Shep Smith's show at 7:00, I have no idea what Shep thinks politically. I don't see any particular agenda. Bias can be a lot of different ways -- story selection, story placement, story emphasis. There's a lot of ways you can create subtle bias. But the networks for years have mixed these things, and now they're claiming we mix it, when, in fact, Bill O'Reilly is a news analysis show, or Greta or somebody else, and the hard news we do is not in question. We haven't retracted a story in eight years.
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LAMB: On accuracy, is there a difference between Bill O'Reilly being accurate, or Sean Hannity, and, say, Brit Hume?

AILES: Well, Brit doesn't do opinion television during his. Bill and Sean do opinions. And I think that's quite clear. So my opinion of something may not be accurate, based on facts, it is my opinion, whereas a hard news show really has to have the facts.

And so there's an opinion segment at the end of Brit's show, where journalists -- now, we don't mix journalists and spinners, you know. Some shows do that. They'll take Bob Novak and Tucker Carlson and put them against two guys who can say they had lunch with Martians. There's no journalistic standard for spinners. There is a journalistic standard for journalists. So you either put spinners on the panel or you put journalists on the panel. If you do it the other way, the journalists will always lose because they simply can't say they had lunch with Martians.
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LAMB: If you were to start your own journalism school, how would you teach it?

AILES: I would just teach to do the facts, be fair, make sure that you’ve got the same weigh if there is more than one point of view to every point of view. I always tell our journalists, reach out to a point of view you don’t agree with and make sure it’s in that story.

It’s simple stuff, but you have to do it. And I see the other networks -- I saw David Westin the other day take a shot at Fox News. Now David is the process of trying to turn himself into Fred Friendly, he’s a corporate lawyer who’s trying to be a great journalist. But he has got some problems.

He’s the guy who wanted Leonardo DiCaprio to be a journalist for him. He’s the guy who had his head of politics during the election basically come out and say they didn't have to be fair, they should support Kerry in the debates. I find that odd. I think David's got a lot of work to do in house before he goes out taking a shot at us.
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Gee, I hate to be a wet blanket and go back on topic, but I'm still waiting for disneydude and his like minded friends on the left to back up the following:

disneydude said:
Obama is smart for not letting them get away with their smears and lies...
Democrats have allowed the lies to go unchecked and paid the price (John Kerry for one)...
Its time that FoxNews and the right-wing smear machine get called out when they post the outright lies that they do...
FauxNews lies have been WELL documented.
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Apparently, Glenn Beck is also waiting for the White house to back up their bull too. Pay close attention at the 2:25 mark and tell me if this sounds at all familiar:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i2kB8vHLUU"]YouTube - Glenn Beck Installs "Hotline" Phone For White House To Call Him[/ame]
 
goldendog said:
Who controlled the congress for the 8 years prior and greenlighted all of Bush's policies with ZERO oversight.
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Um the Republicans only controlled Congress for 2 years sport, and in what two years did the meltdown begin in? Oh gee that would be the two in which your party was in power. The Democrats have completely destroyed this economy and now they think they can spend themselves out of the mess they themselves created.
 
I'd like to know where that WH website is that is railing against Fox News.
 
LOL... Yes, report just as CNN does... LOL.

FOXNEWS has yet to retract a story, CNN is a known propagandist for Obama and the despot formerly known as Saddam. State Run Media indeed! LOL.

CNN's Iraqi Cover-Up
CNN's Iraqi Cover-Up

CNN admits that knowledge of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.

In a shocking New York Times opinion piece, CNN's chief news executive Eason Jordan has admitted that for the past decade the network has systematically covered up stories of Iraqi atrocities. Reports of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.

Read Jordan's op-ed at:
The News We Kept to Ourselves - The New York Times
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zimmer said:
LOL... Yes, report just as CNN does... LOL.

FOXNEWS has yet to retract a story, CNN is a known propagandist for Obama and the despot formerly known as Saddam. State Run Media indeed! LOL.

CNN's Iraqi Cover-Up


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This is the cable news network that liberals praise as objective.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
So you think that watchdog groups like News Hounds or Crooks and Liars don't have an agenda of their own? :lol:
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Of course not, but this one's agenda is cataloging Fixed News' distortions, hypocrisies and lies :mrgreen:
 
jackalope said:
Of course not, but this one's agenda is cataloging Fixed News' distortions, hypocrisies and lies :mrgreen:
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I hope you don't truly believe that. The thing is, everyone has their own agenda. I don't buy for a second that these groups are watching Fox closely because they are about honesty and integrity. If they were they would be far more even handed in their approach and they wouldn't mainly go after news groups that are deemed "right wing".
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I hope you don't truly believe that. The thing is, everyone has their own agenda. I don't buy for a second that these groups are watching Fox closely because they are about honesty and integrity. If they were they would be far more even handed in their approach and they wouldn't mainly go after news groups that are deemed "right wing".
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Hey Doc, Looks like a Jerry Cheevers mask... missing some stitches though.

I wonder how many people on the left are as myopic as Obama... unable to stomach FOXNEWS.

Lord knows we cannot escape the Lib media for now... and I do listen to them (with a barf bag), but how many on the left have the intellectual curiosity to listen to FOX, Rush, Hannity, Levin or anyone right leaning?

From what I've read over the past few years here and elsewhere... that tolerance and intellectual curiosity exists in microscopic doses.

That's how we get third rate windbags elected.
A feeble cheer-leading press = an ignorant electorate = the election of Barack Hussein Obama

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