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White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

It is an arm of the RNC...They just won't admit it!...Get it!?!?

Joe Wilson is a bigot...He just won't admit it...get it?!?

(ask someone to explain it to you)

If no one will admit it and you can't prove it, then the only other option is that you're talking out of your butt.
 
It is an arm of the RNC...They just won't admit it!...Get it!?!?

Joe Wilson is a bigot...He just won't admit it...get it?!?

(ask someone to explain it to you)


Why because he spoke "Truth to Power"? What a joke the demos are becoming.


j-mac
 
I'm distraught at the demeanor of this administration that broke a promise of hope & change and transparency, characteristic of a lack of disconnect with the American people. A President, who has comprised his campaign promises should elevate above the fracas and to embody all Americans, regardless of political affiliation. The arrogant, self centered behavior demonstrated by the Obama administration will steer a path of civil discourse in the political spectrum and ultimately implode at the heart of our great country. The Obama Administration, guilty of adhering and championing ideas from the book 'Rules for Radicals" that brought them into power. Saul Alinsky, a Marxist, author of the handbook is in this case are manifest and solely directed at #1 ranked Fox News.

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
 
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the grey lady's media analyst david carr declares fox the winner in the white house vs network war

The New York Times > Log In

...So far, the only winner in this latest dispute seems to be Fox News. Ratings are up 20 percent this year, and the network basked for a week in the antagonism of a sitting president

It could all be written off as a sideshow, but it may present a genuine problem for Mr. Obama, who took great pains during the campaign to depict himself as being above the fray of over-heated partisan squabbling. In his victory speech he promised, “I will listen to you, especially when we disagree...”
 
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Michael Wolff of Newser and Vanity Fair has a new theory:


I’ve Changed My Mind on the Obama-Fox Showdown
by Michael Wolff


(snip ... ) So I am revising my theory of what the Obama administration is doing in its frontal assault on Fox: I think they want us to take sides. Are you a Fox person or not a Fox person? And I think they want to identify Fox as the standard bearer of American conservatism. If you’re a conservative, you’re for Fox (ie, is that who you want to be?).

They are going to combine this triangulation with their passing of a health care bill. I think they believe that, once this has been passed, to have opposed it will be like opposing Social Security.

Hence, Republicanism = conservatism = Fox = rabid opposition to an incredibly popular piece of legislation = hopeless marginalization = new liberal consensus.

more ...

I’ve Changed My Mind on the Obama-Fox Showdown



David Frum, and Andrew Sullivan, think there's something to it:

Why is the White House Attacking Fox?

October 20th, 2009 at 1:12 pm by David Frum


Michael Wolff has a sharp theory: (snip ... ) It’s a perfect convergence: What is good for Fox is good for Obama, and what is good for Obama is good for Fox, and their mutual victim is the Republican party.

http://www.newmajority.com/why-is-the-white-house-attacking-fox



Fox And The White House, Hand In Hand


David Frum and Michael Wolff explain.

Whatever else they are, Barack Obama and Roger Ailes are not dumb. And this war helps both.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.c.../10/fox-and-the-white-house-hand-in-hand.html
 
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I think it is rather simple to see, even without all the hyper partisan, and quasi liberals like David Frum to tell us. And that is that the Obama administration doesn't like the attention paid to them in a negative light when facts about their communist appointees are laid out there in the public domain, so they marginalize, and demonize, in an attempt to destroy them. All wrapped up with a not so veiled threat of 'watch what happens to Fox, you don't want the same do you?'

They are the school ground bullies.


j-mac
 
I think it is rather simple to see, even without all the hyper partisan, and quasi liberals like David Frum to tell us. And that is that the Obama administration doesn't like the attention paid to them in a negative light when facts about their communist appointees are laid out there in the public domain, so they marginalize, and demonize, in an attempt to destroy them. All wrapped up with a not so veiled threat of 'watch what happens to Fox, you don't want the same do you?'

They are the school ground bullies.


j-mac

I think the problem is the media is always afraid of GOP administrations because they know abuse of Executive Branch power is never far off. Dems they feel safe with.
Personally....I'd like to see some Exec Br. muscle flexed against Fox News....Just to get in their face a bit.
What's Obama got to lose?.....The GOP suddenly gonna try to block his legislation?...They not gonna vote with the Dems?...They gonna bad mouth Obama??
Give me a break!
 
I think it is rather simple to see, even without all the hyper partisan, and quasi liberals like David Frum to tell us. And that is that the Obama administration doesn't like the attention paid to them in a negative light when facts about their communist appointees are laid out there in the public domain, so they marginalize, and demonize, in an attempt to destroy them. All wrapped up with a not so veiled threat of 'watch what happens to Fox, you don't want the same do you?'

They are the school ground bullies.


j-mac


Not a one of those people are hyperpartisan, and David Frum is not a quasi, or any kind, of liberal. Obama gets much more damaging negative criticism from his own side. If that is what it was about, he'd set his sights on the side that can damage him; not on the side that didn't vote for him, and won't next time around.

Negative criticism isn't a problem. Lies and hypocrisy are. Besides, they said they will deal with Fox in the future, but won't pretend they're dealing with a news organization. And they're not, they're dealing with an organization that has an agenda, and has called themselves the opposition. :rofl Funny stuff, that.
 
Not a one of those people are hyperpartisan, and David Frum is not a quasi, or any kind, of liberal. Obama gets much more damaging negative criticism from his own side. If that is what it was about, he'd set his sights on the side that can damage him; not on the side that didn't vote for him, and won't next time around.


Oh please. Spare me. Frum is a spineless little dweeb that takes more pleasure out of being a useful tool of the progressive leftist, statist liberals out there, all in the hopes of being invited to the next insider party. He is the guy that would gladly give up his lunch money than show a pair and stand up for what he believes in. He attacks, then cowers behind the skirts of the liberal big brother. As for sides, who cares who voted for whom in this game of Obama's? This is about control, and forceful bully tactics, or in short Chicago style thugmanship. Obama knows it, cut his teeth in it, and now contrary to what he promised America is going to bring it. But, as most bullies react, one good punch to the sweet spot on the chin, and he'll fold like a cheap suit, or coward he is.


Negative criticism isn't a problem.

It is a huge problem, and not just from FOX either. They can't reconcile their own party on anything, much less control a news outlet. They picked the wrong fight.

Lies and hypocrisy are.

I agree, Obama is quite the liar.


Besides, they said they will deal with Fox in the future, but won't pretend they're dealing with a news organization.


Yeah, so? They are still going to be asked tough questions.....Are they going to continue to attack anyone that gets in their way? This just isn't good for you demo's. Trust me.


And they're not, they're dealing with an organization that has an agenda, and has called themselves the opposition.


Maybe you'd like to provide where the news side of FOX news has said this?


Funny stuff, that.


It is, between you and devil, I am in stitches.


j-mac
 
Yeah, so? They are still going to be asked tough questions.....Are they going to continue to attack anyone that gets in their way? This just isn't good for you demo's. Trust me.


Why should I trust you? Your post contained not a single argument, your only question is a 'when are you going to stop beating your wife' fallacy, b/c the premise of the question is dishonest and negative. They don't attack anyone that gets in their way (although there is a recent administration that did just that - in a personal character assassination type of way).

There's nothing there, nothing to trust.
 
Before a dictator can control the government, he has to be able to control the media.
 
I'm distraught at the demeanor of this administration that broke a promise of hope & change and transparency, characteristic of a lack of disconnect with the American people. A President, who has comprised his campaign promises should elevate above the fracas and to embody all Americans, regardless of political affiliation. The arrogant, self centered behavior demonstrated by the Obama administration will steer a path of civil discourse in the political spectrum and ultimately implode at the heart of our great country. The Obama Administration, guilty of adhering and championing ideas from the book 'Rules for Radicals" that brought them into power. Saul Alinsky, a Marxist, author of the handbook is in this case are manifest and solely directed at #1 ranked Fox News.

Yes.

Woe be to liberty when the government decides to destroy part of the press simply because they're opposed to it.

And the willing accomplices here forfeit any claim they have to being "for freedom." They're totalitarians perfectly comfortable stamping out people who say things they don't want to hear.
 
msnbc's olbermann and chris (HA!) matthews anchor election and debate nites (before they got fired)

msnbc, abc, cbs, nbc, cnn refuse to recognize van jones as news

only fox covers the green energy czar who signs truther petitions and blames columbines only on whites

the white house obviously felt jones was news, they fired him within the week

only fox finds newsworthy the communications director who brags her admin "controls" news so as to avoid "talking to reporters" and admires mao as her model

only fox reports on the science czar who once authored a book recommending forced sterilization, the safe schools czar who advises teens to use condoms before they rendevous with restroom pedophiles, the regulatory czar who favors banning hunting and allowing fido to sue his owners

only fox airs videos of obama's parent organization fraudulently finagling home loans for folks who tell em they're for brothels of child prositution

no wonder obama and his supporters despise fox

most revealing
 
msnbc's olbermann and chris (HA!) matthews anchor election and debate nites (before they got fired)

msnbc, abc, cbs, nbc, cnn refuse to recognize van jones as news

only fox covers the green energy czar who signs truther petitions and blames columbines only on whites

the white house obviously felt jones was news, they fired him within the week

only fox finds newsworthy the communications director who brags her admin "controls" news so as to avoid "talking to reporters" and admires mao as her model

only fox reports on the science czar who once authored a book recommending forced sterilization, the safe schools czar who advises teens to use condoms before they rendevous with restroom pedophiles, the regulatory czar who favors banning hunting and allowing fido to sue his owners

only fox airs videos of obama's parent organization fraudulently finagling home loans for folks who tell em they're for brothels of child prositution

no wonder obama and his supporters despise fox

most revealing


only fox is telling the truth ... everyone else is out to get us!

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:mrgreen: :lol:


But seriously .... if only fox has the truth, maybe they're selling something, and not actually telling the truth.
 
abc's white house correspondent jake tapper today takes on gibbs over the fox war:

From this morning’s gaggle in White House press secretary Robert Gibbs’ office:

Tapper: It’s escaped none of our notice that the White House has decided in the last few weeks to declare one of our sister organizations “not a news organization” and to tell the rest of us not to treat them like a news organization. Can you explain why it’s appropriate for the White House to decide that a news organization is not one –

(Crosstalk)

Gibbs: Jake, we render, we render an opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness that, the fairness of that coverage.

Tapper: But that’s a pretty sweeping declaration that they are “not a news organization.” How are they any different from, say –

Gibbs: ABC -

Tapper: ABC. MSNBC. Univision. I mean how are they any different?

Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight. Or 5 o’clock this afternoon.

Tapper: I’m not talking about their opinion programming or issues you have with certain reports. I’m talking about saying thousands of individuals who work for a media organization, do not work for a “news organization” -- why is that appropriate for the White House to say?

Gibbs: That’s our opinion.

but opinions, mr gibbs, aren't facts

remember?

Today?s Qs for O?s WH ? 10/20/2009 - Political Punch
 
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This is a brilliant move by the Whitehouse. Obama said, during his speech before the joint session of congress, that he would start "calling people out" if they interject a bunch of nonsense into the public debate while grown folks are discussing business. Fox is so rabidly right-wing that any neutral observer will quickly reach the same conclusion Obama did. Now, anyone citing Fox News as a source will be immediately discredited and even if Fox gets more viewers they will definitely have less believers. Great Move Obama!!!

If only Obama could show this kind of resolve and clarity as it concerns Afghanistan...
 
such sophistry is head spinning

no one ever said only fox tells the truth

when it comes to the czars, maybe

but when it comes to the fox war, almost everyone is telling the truth

everyone, that is, except the white house

and its supporters
 
such sophistry is head spinning

no one ever said only fox tells the truth

when it comes to the czars, maybe

but when it comes to the fox war, almost everyone is telling the truth

everyone, that is, except the white house

and its supporters


When it's only Fox telling the truth about the czars ... it's far more likely Fox is carrying on political propaganda. Journalism's a highly competitive business. Your Tapper guy would be all over it - if there was news in it.

Fox = propaganda, and Foxies like it just like that.
 
If only Obama could show this kind of resolve and clarity as it concerns Afghanistan...

It does make you wonder what his priorities are.
 
When it's only Fox telling the truth about the czars ... it's far more likely Fox is carrying on political propaganda. Journalism's a highly competitive business. Your Tapper guy would be all over it - if there was news in it.

Fox = propaganda, and Foxies like it just like that.

far more likely---LOL!

the school czar said and did exactly what the school czar said and did

take ownership of your values

holdren, sunstein, mr jones, ms dunn...

unfortunately, they're not propaganda, i wish they were

why was van jones let go?

for propaganda reasons?

or because of the incendiary statements he made and signatures he applied thru his career?

who's responsible?
 
Can't say Tapper's not tough .... but since he doesn't work for Fox, kinda diminishes the theory that only Fox is telling ya the truth ;)

It's not that the Obama propagandists don't get the odd nut like a blind squirrel, or that there aren't a few journalists that have the balls to take on The Messiah.

In the very recent past we had two examples of how the media (sans FOXNEWS) operates. They do a fact check on Saturday Night Live's jab at Obamer.... yet they ran false quotes of Rush Limbaugh. Where is the fact check when it really counts?

Nowhere to be found.

Then we have Sarah Palin. This women had miles more experience than the back bench Senator that voted "Present" so often. They slashed her at every turn, as they did with Joe the Plumber... who did more journalism in 5 minutes during the election than the entire Obama propaganist franchise.

Howard Fineman admitted what the press is (sans FOXNEWS)... years ago. Partisan and propagandists. A Political Party!

It's why FOXNEWS at 03:00 beats CNN at 20:00, and why their rating beats the rest combined. But it's not enough... proven by the election of a guy that would be a laughing stock if he ran during the last election and was white; just as Geraldine Ferraro stated.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6813945/

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unemployment pushes 10%, the debt is out the door, afghanistan is a total mess, health care is in ICU...

and the white house obsesses its demonstrably tiny little mind trying to marginalize its free speech loving critics

and not just fox

it goes after the chamber of commerce, rush limbaugh, the insurance industry, the gop in general

and it doesn't seem to be working

VA Gov Poll: McDonnell+19 - Real Clear Politics – TIME.com
 
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