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White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

If I had to guess, he was hoping you not lying when you said you were not responding to his posts any more.

OK...I get it now.

This topic appears to have struck a nerve with those on the right & I'll take a few lashes if it makes some feel better.
 
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No it was not, you are a known liar.

"I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly....who is now the voice of reason on Fox News!" - Devil505

My night was fine, I just can't stand hyper partisan lying, what about you?

PS Not an attack, a statement of fact proven time and time again.

I don't know......I think you're giving yourself away here. ;) (undercover work is an art)
Ever been to Antigua BD? (lovely island)
 
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Keep it civil and jettison the personal innuendo.
 
Yeah, having your entire news program ripped by the Whitehouse is a devastating blow to your credibility because people assume the administration has conducted some sort of analysis, or study, or has some supportable basis for making such a bold declaration against a news station.

Is that why Fox's ratings keep climbing? Is that why more and more people are wondering what the heck this administration is thinking? Do you really think that people didn't already know what FoxNews is all about and that they found out just this week, because the bigshots in the White House told them? Me thinks you should look into who actually watches Fox news and why. It's not all hardline conservatives being spoonfed their own ideology back to them. Many independents and many democrats tune in as well. Must be they don't really care what the White House thinks, and I hope it stays that way.


Also, if he is lying about Fox, other news agencies would rush in to gather evidence to contradict the POTUS. The media is always looking to instigate a fight. So I don't think the Administration would make these statements on a recurring basis unless they are confident they could back it up. So far no one has contradicted them. And in politics; if a statement is uncontradicted for 72hours it becomes the truth. Credibility at Fox is dead!!! I never heard Bush publicly admonish an entire news agency for being partisan because I don't think he could prove it.

Why would other news agencies bother to defend the one network that steals hundreds of thousands of viewers from them every day? I'm actually surprised many even bother to question the White House's strategy at all. You'd think they'd just sit back, eat popcorn and enjoy the fireworks that, according to you, will bring FoxNews down in flames.

"Boring" is not a metric used to measure news worthiness. For instance Beck is more fun because he discusses such craziness as "secret communist plots" revealed in the architecture of New York City buildings :roll:. That's not news, that's pure entertainment. How does that nonsense "contribute to your vision of the whole picture"??? And exactly what "picture" are you looking for when you tune into news stories about Obama's secret plot to kill our grandmothers, and form domestic armies???

I don't watch clowns like Glen Beck or Hannity for the news. I watch them for the lolz. Their shows are not news. They have the likes of Shepard Smith for news. You know, Shepard, the actual news guy. I hear he's a Democrat.

You're confusing opinion shows with news. The news reporting on Fox is not much different than on other networks. The news commentary, however, is very different and does provide a hard conservative perspective that the other networks, try as they may, are not able to provide without watering it down. I want to know how BOTH extremes of the political spectrum think. I want to understand why they see the world the way they do. If that means having to laugh a little (mostly a lot) at their paranoia and sensationalized talking points then so be it. I'm smart enough to sort through the riff-raff my centrist self hears from both sides. Believe me, from where I'm sitting, neither side comes out looking good.
 
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What I argue against are those that claim Fox News has no bias...

Who says that? I'm not accusing you of lying here, I would just like to know who on this forum would make such a statement?

The Fox News channel as a whole, has a very clear conservative bias based on their conservative leaning opinion shows. If you are talking about their news programs, well, not so much. Their news programs do lean to the right, but are more centrist than the news you get from ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN.


My problem is not with the bias ......it's trying to HIDE the bias behind a Fair & Balanced logo that is a lie. (& that's what the WH is saying as well)

Fox News is the only television news network that admits they have a bias.

Doesn't honesty lend to credibility?

What does it say when you have one TV news network that leans right and admits it, while you have 5 other networks that lean left, and refuse to admit it?


N.Y. Time is liberal....... Wall St. Journal is conservative.....FINE.....Just don't ltry to hide it.

As for the WSJ, I can't tell you whether they hide it or not, but the NY Times sure as hell does.
 
Get angry as you like but the fact remains that Fox News is an arm of the GOP & I applaud the WH for calling them out.


Let's see if there is any intellectual honesty here. What do you call MSNBC then?


j-mac
 
Let's see if there is any intellectual honesty here. What do you call MSNBC then?


j-mac


Fox has a problem with accuracy and hypocrisy. Also, this snip I wandered by is relevant:

(snip ... ) Meanwhile, someone wake up me up the day Fox decides to dedicate three hours of morning programming to a show hosted by a former Democratic member of congress and then I’ll consider conceding the Fox/MSNBC equivalence point.

Matthew Yglesias White House vs Fox News
 
Fox has a problem with accuracy and hypocrisy. Also, this snip I wandered by is relevant:

(snip ... ) Meanwhile, someone wake up me up the day Fox decides to dedicate three hours of morning programming to a show hosted by a former Democratic member of congress and then I’ll consider conceding the Fox/MSNBC equivalence point.

Matthew Yglesias White House vs Fox News




:lol: well if "thinkprogress" says so..... :doh
 
Meanwhile, someone wake up me up the day ABC decides to have a one hour prime time special hosted by a Republican member of congress on their ideas for health care reform and then I’ll consider conceding the Fox/ABC equivalence point.
 
Since he is none of those things .... and the statement refers to a true condition, it's good.





HE is not a liberal blogger?


Really?


[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Yglesias]Matthew Yglesias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]



FAIL:lol:
 
A far-Left op-ed is your proof? Really?


Lessee .... first, it's a comment; second it reflects the truth. MSNBC gives 3 hours of morning programming to a former Republican member of Congress; Fox no such thing.

You can't even argue that they try to accomplish similar because they've flat out stated they have a conservative point of view.

They mouth 'fair and balanced' while they market a slant. :lol:
 
Since he is none of those things .... and the statement refers to a true condition, it's good.

Liberals deny the title of, "Liberal". That's a very telling commentary.
 
HE is not a liberal blogger?


Really?


Matthew Yglesias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



FAIL:lol:

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Yglesias went to high school at The Dalton School in New York City and later attended Harvard University where he studied philosophy. He graduated magna cum laude in 2003. He was editor-in-chief of The Harvard Independent, a weekly newsmagazine, and also wrote for several other campus publications.

Seems like a pretty good CV to me.
 
Since he is none of those things .... and the statement refers to a true condition, it's good.


he (Matthew Yglesias) announced that he would leave The Atlantic Monthly for his current home at the Center for American Progress, because he missed "the sense of collegiality that comes from working with like-minded colleagues on a shared enterprise" and thought he could "help advance their mission". [1]


Matthew Yglesias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



:rofl


You libs slay me.....:lol:


j-mac
 
Lessee .... first, it's a comment; second it reflects the truth. MSNBC gives 3 hours of morning programming to a former Republican member of Congress; Fox no such thing.

You can't even argue that they try to accomplish similar because they've flat out stated they have a conservative point of view.

They mouth 'fair and balanced' while they market a slant. :lol:

MSBNC lied when they accused Rush of racism. They even had to crawfish on the subject.
 
Lessee .... first, it's a comment; second it reflects the truth. MSNBC gives 3 hours of morning programming to a former Republican member of Congress; Fox no such thing.


Useful Idiot is more like it.....They have no less than four progressives surrounding the man at any given time, all mocking, and laughing at him....I wouldn't call that any attempt to be fair.


j-mac
 
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