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Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

holy ****, $1k... where have you bought your .50 bmg rifles?

The one I'm eyeballing right now is $7200. :(

wow, I made a quick guesstimate. I was slightly off. :shock:
 
They are very useful at disabling vehicles...Both police and civilians should have access to them. Civilians more likely for hunting big game. very big game.
Yes, you -can- disable a vehicle with a .50BMG rifle -- but when is it -necessary- to have a .50BMG rifle to do so?

Remember, the question here is "need" -- that the rifle is the ONLY effective choice for the job.
 
holy ****, $1k... where have you bought your .50 bmg rifles?
The one I'm eyeballing right now is $7200.
No kidding.
If I had a place to shoot one, I would have had one some time ago.
 
No kidding.
If I had a place to shoot one, I would have had one some time ago.

I've got a nice patch of desert that I've stretched a friend's out to 1450 yards with.

3 out of 5 hits on a 55g drum. :)
 
Yes, you -can- disable a vehicle with a .50BMG rifle -- but when is it -necessary- to have a .50BMG rifle to do so?

Remember, the question here is "need" -- that the rifle is the ONLY effective choice for the job.

I won't argue that it's the only effective means, but it is effective--maybe even in a situation where other means are not. I believe the police, as well as citizens, should have access to them. Either way, criminals can get them.
 
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I've got a nice patch of desert that I've stretched a friend's out to 1450 yards with.
3 out of 5 hits on a 55g drum
1450 is a good range for a .50BMG. Anythng less than 600 is a waste of time.

I can shoot out to 1000, but only for actual competition, and then only with a .338 or smaller.
 
1450 is a good range for a .50BMG. Anythng less than 600 is a waste of time.

I can shoot out to 1000, but only for actual competition, and then only with a .338 or smaller.

I rock my 30-06 out at 1k yards. :)

At some point I wanna try out a mile with it. Just wish match ammo wasn't so expensive for that beast. :(
 
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Ammunition Bill Signed into Law | News10.net | Sacramento, California | Local News





Wow, it must hurt to have his head so far up his ass... This will do nothing for violent crime in California.. I guess I should stock up on ammo and open a stand on the border of California and Az and sell ammo to them.

How do they plan on stopping people from going out of state to purchase? Further, how do they plan on stopping those same people from selling it to their friends?

Stupid ****ing legislation, the gun grabbers just don't have any common ****ing sense.

I'm thinking this will go to court.
 
You must register to vote to exercise your right to vote, so registration is not an infringement.
Is there a right-to-vote granted by the USA Constitution and, if so, where is it?

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The bill is a bad law. Handgun ammunition is too prolific to be controlled in such a fashion. The benefits will likely be marginal, and few criminals will be prevented from obtaining ammunition. Storing ammunition behind the counter is a good idea, but not important enough to require a law.
 
Is there a right-to-vote granted by the USA Constitution and, if so, where is it?

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10th amendment. Besides, it's the basis of what the system is built on. If you want to make some fundamental "right" issue on it, there is room. You can even argue against it being a base human right as the system originally revolved around only rich, white, land owners being allowed to vote. However, in general the Constitution does not list all our rights. But they have been reserved by the States and People.
 
Wow.....wow. Thumb print customers...record their identification and report it to police!!! WTF ever happened to being able to secure your person, paper, and property against unreasonable search and seizure? Holy communists! More reasons as to why California should be kicked out of the Republic and sunk into the ocean.

Sell California to China, which is compatible with it's ideology. While we are at it, we can also saw off Florida and float it out to Cuba because they don't know how to cast a vote, and then they blame Bush for the outcome. I say lets get rid of 2 crazy states, and make it economical, with only one saw blade. LOL.
 
Sell California to China, which is compatible with it's ideology. While we are at it, we can also saw off Florida and float it out to Cuba because they don't know how to cast a vote, and then they blame Bush for the outcome. I say lets get rid of 2 crazy states, and make it economical, with only one saw blade. LOL.


Well, if we're slicing off CA and FL, you def gonna need a good case for crazy TX to stay. Although, most of them don't even want to stay :lol:
 
Well, if we're slicing off CA and FL, you def gonna need a good case for crazy TX to stay. Although, most of them don't even want to stay :lol:

Don't worry about Texas. We are going to saw ourselves off, and save you the trouble. :mrgreen:
 
10th amendment. Besides, it's the basis of what the system is built on. If you want to make some fundamental "right" issue on it, there is room. You can even argue against it being a base human right as the system originally revolved around only rich, white, land owners being allowed to vote. However, in general the Constitution does not list all our rights. But they have been reserved by the States and People.
Granted, but the right to bear arms is one that is listed, is it not? One would think that might give it some weight.

I thought the US Constitution originally pretty much left it to the States to determine voting procedures. Is it not true that a state can determine how to select their delegates to the Electoral Collage?

I may be way off on this. I have only looked at US history as a hobby several years ago.

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Ammunition Bill Signed into Law | News10.net | Sacramento, California | Local News





Wow, it must hurt to have his head so far up his ass... This will do nothing for violent crime in California..
Why not?
Are you going to back that position up with anything?


I guess I should stock up on ammo and open a stand on the border of California and Az and sell ammo to them.

How do they plan on stopping people from going out of state to purchase? Further, how do they plan on stopping those same people from selling it to their friends?

Unless you are licensed by the state and fed to sell ammo, it's illegal.

Stupid ****ing legislation, the gun grabbers just don't have any common ****ing sense.

The gun grabbers? Yeah, because an AMMUNITION BILL has a lot to do with 'grabbing' guns...:roll::roll:

First of all, do you even live in California? If not, mind your own frickin' business. If you do live in California, do you live in a city or a town?

What is your problem with this bill? Honestly, from you little angry rant, I can't tell what your issue with the bill is...
 
Why not?
Are you going to back that position up with anything?


Unless you are licensed by the state and fed to sell ammo, it's illegal.



The gun grabbers? Yeah, because an AMMUNITION BILL has a lot to do with 'grabbing' guns...:roll::roll:

First of all, do you even live in California? If not, mind your own frickin' business. If you do live in California, do you live in a city or a town?

What is your problem with this bill? Honestly, from you little angry rant, I can't tell what your issue with the bill is...

Has any of your guys gun control done anything to curb crime in Cali? Nope... Just like in ****cago people still get guns and they still use them for crimes.

The **** it's illegal for me to sell ammo to people from another state.. I do it all the time.

And yes, this is another backdoor attempt by you and your ilk to control guns... from another angle.
 
Granted, but the right to bear arms is one that is listed, is it not? One would think that might give it some weight.

I thought the US Constitution originally pretty much left it to the States to determine voting procedures. Is it not true that a state can determine how to select their delegates to the Electoral Collage?

I may be way off on this. I have only looked at US history as a hobby several years ago.

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I was talking about voting, as people seemed to have issue with that.
 
The gun grabbers? Yeah, because an AMMUNITION BILL has a lot to do with 'grabbing' guns...:roll::roll:

First of all, do you even live in California? If not, mind your own frickin' business. If you do live in California, do you live in a city or a town?

What is your problem with this bill? Honestly, from you little angry rant, I can't tell what your issue with the bill is...

Really? Really, you're going to try to make that claim. It's not about "grabbing guns" because it's ammunition? Do you not see that as a coupled system? Seriously? Because I can't conceive of someone who'd think that stringent, overbearing, big brother tactics on restricting ammunition sale and use isn't anything but a backdoor anti-gun tactic to make gun ownership too troublesome and expensive to be worthwhile. I can't think anyone being intellectually honest could make such a claim.
 
Really? Really, you're going to try to make that claim. It's not about "grabbing guns" because it's ammunition? Do you not see that as a coupled system? Seriously? Because I can't conceive of someone who'd think that stringent, overbearing, big brother tactics on restricting ammunition sale and use isn't anything but a backdoor anti-gun tactic to make gun ownership too troublesome and expensive to be worthwhile. I can't think anyone being intellectually honest could make such a claim.

You dirty Harry-wanna-be's don't get it.
 
Is there a right-to-vote granted by the USA Constitution and, if so, where is it?

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The constitution doesn't grant rights, though it innumerates many to protect people from government (ie. rights may not be abridged...).

Amendment XIV, Section II mentions a "right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice Preseident of the United States, Representatives in Congress [etc]"

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Amendment XV: "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged...on account of race, color, [etc.etc]"

and Amendment XIX: same as XV but to include women...

all mention the "right to vote," which I believe was properly implied first under Amendment X, but had to be spelled out to fix problems of overreaching extant in state and federal systems.
 
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Wonder what the motivation of Calif is with this proposed law. Is this for all ammunition ? Some ammunition is designed and used only for non restricted non registered guns there to required records for that type of ammunition can only mean that someone wants to build up a data bank of people who have guns that do not require registration. Certain ammunition is used in both rifles ( which do not require registration) and in handguns.

If they think that they will get at people who have illegal weapons this will not work since those types will get their ammunition the way they got their weapons - illegally.

On the surface this does not sound like a good law at all.
 
398 chicago school kids have been shot in the last 12 months

47 dead since jan 20, inauguration day

24, 23 and 34 the last 3 school years

all of which makes oddly more inexplicable obama's promotion of former pro basketball player arne duncan to cabinet status, secty of ed, after the ex hoopster calls himself a "total failure" when it comes to addressing school safety as ceo of chicago's public schools from 01 to 08

Chicago Violence Haunts Obama as Gun-Control Backers Left Cold - Bloomberg.com

Videotaped Death the Latest in Long History of Chicago Youth Violence

chicago's gun ban obviously isn't working

cnn reported last week that 18% of windy city's schoolers are armed

Appeals court supports local gun bans - Chicago Breaking News

of course, the young honor student whose murder last month was recorded on a cell phone and put on blast for all the world to see was done in not by firearm but via railroad tie

maybe tie-control is in order

but the gun ban seems to have done nothing to stem the "wave of violence" inundating the ed secty's home district

maybe, like obama per the economy, duncan can argue things could be and would be worse without the actions he's taken

except he repeatedly confesses to his "total failure" status

so's the gun ban

sad
 
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