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DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

How exactly does one conduct a "street patrol" looking for illegal immigrants?

You tell all your patrol cars to stop and question every Mexican they see.
 
You tell all your patrol cars to stop and question every Mexican they see.

Irregardless of their constitutional rights.

And you can't sit here and tell me that everyone that they pulled over was an illegal.
 
Irregardless of their constitutional rights.

And you can't sit here and tell me that everyone that they pulled over was an illegal.

Sure I can. It just wouldn't be true. Watch:

Everyone they pulled over was an illegal.
 
That sounds like a Gestapo tactic.

It is.

Basically anyone locally who's disagreed with Arpaio has had some charges trumped up on them... and been attacked.

It's ****ing horrible what he's done to our legal system here.
 
Under what authority does a local sheriff have the right to physically remove people from the country?

Under what authority does an illegal physically enter this country?
 
It is.

Basically anyone locally who's disagreed with Arpaio has had some charges trumped up on them... and been attacked.

It's ****ing horrible what he's done to our legal system here.
Funny for a guy that trumps up all kinds of charges on people, he sure gets elected a lot.
 
Under what authority does an illegal physically enter this country?
The only entity who needs statutory authority to do anything in the United States is the government.
 
Funny for a guy that trumps up all kinds of charges on people, he sure gets elected a lot.

Sure does.

I attribute it to "stupid old people", and note that the problem will eventually solve itself.
 
DHS has revoked Sheriff Joe Arpaio's authority to inter illegal aliens, but that isn't stopping him. He will now be busing illegals right to the border.



Works for me. Known as America's toughest sheriff, Arpaio has apprehended more than 30,000 illegal aliens so far. Rather than chastise him, I believe that DHS should be pinning a medal on him instead. They are breaking the law. The sheriff is merely enforcing the law. What's the big deal?

Article is here.

Hopefully Joe Arpaio is successful. If we had men like him running our prisons and enforcing the law we wouldn't have 12-20 million illegals in this country and people would fear going to prison because it would actually be a place of punishment instead of a confined dormitory.
 
Sure does.

I attribute it to "stupid old people", and note that the problem will eventually solve itself.

What so called trumped charges have been filed against you?
 
Sure does.

I attribute it to "stupid old people", and note that the problem will eventually solve itself.
Well he's been sheriff for 17 years, so you'd better get to work recifying it. :mrgreen:
 
What so called trumped charges have been filed against you?

None against me, cause I'm not running against him.. or attempting to stop him from doing "his job".


If you'd like to look for yourselves, there happens to be a whole bunch of cases that he's got pending against various city counsel members.. and the new times... who are his "enemies" in this state.
 
Isn't this interference by the Administration a clear violation of the 10th Amendment?
It depends upon why they are doing it.
 
. . .Arpaio is a local problem that should be dealt with using local power.
Arpaio is a local (and national) hero. That's why he's been in office for so long.

an open border that adjoins a disintegrating near-third-world country however is a problem that is being predictably ignored by the current incompetent, perhaps criminal Administration.
 
None against me, cause I'm not running against him.. or attempting to stop him from doing "his job".


If you'd like to look for yourselves, there happens to be a whole bunch of cases that he's got pending against various city counsel members.. and the new times... who are his "enemies" in this state.

Is there any actual evidence to prove the charges are trumped up or is this some of the pro-criminal/scumbag sympathizer rhetoric of "Oh No!!! Joe is hard on criminals and actually arrest illegals we must stop him somehow"? Somehow I think your claim is influenced by the latter of the two
 
Is there any actual evidence to prove the charges are trumped up or is this some of the pro-criminal/scumbag sympathizer rhetoric of "Oh No!!! Joe is hard on criminals and actually arrest illegals we must stop him somehow"? Somehow I think your claim is influenced by the latter of the two

Wow, you're a ****ing idiot.

Where have I said *anything* about not appreciating the *actual* criminals he's apprehending?

Nowhere, so please simmer down the ****ing stupidity.

His methods are extremely unconstitutional and I don't agree with them.

Sheriff's deputies arrest 'New Times' owners

Case was dropped btw... nevermind the other bull**** he's doing.
 
How exactly does one conduct a "street patrol" looking for illegal immigrants?
Given Arpaio's other publicity seeking and highly unethical behavior, I am not exactly trusting of his actions. However, I don't like the Homeland Security getting involved either. Arpaio is a local problem that should be dealt with using local power.




I find it far less "ethical" for the DHS to order this sherrif to do something that harms our security.
 
Under what authority does a local sheriff have the right to physically remove people from the country?
From the story:
Under Sheriff Arpaio, his department has either identified in jail, or arrested on the street more than 30,000 illegal aliens in and around Phoenix, AZ
I dont see anything mentioning "physically remove people from the country".
Straw, man.
 
Yes it is when the State and Local Govn. have there own Laws hence the 10th Adm you might want to go and read what the 10th says.

10th Amendment?.... that's the Constitution, right?.... Libs have no understanding or use for the Constitution.
 
10th Amendment?.... that's the Constitution, right?.... Libs have no understanding or use for the Constitution.

The question is if a state has the power to enforce federal law, absent a request from the federal government to do so and/or in the face of a request by the federal government to NOT do so.

However that question is answered, the DHS director hgas NO power to order a sheriff to NOT enforce any related state laws.
 
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The question is if a state has the power to enforce federal law, absent a request from the federal government to do so and/or in the face of a request by the federal government to NOT do so.

However that question is answered, the DHS director hgas NO power to order a sheriff to NOT enforce any related state laws.

Watch her try though. :)
 
Even if everything the left is saying about the guy is true, there are proper channels for disciplinary action. Ordering him to stop enforcing the law is a bad move.
 
It depends upon why they are doing it.

Actually, it doesn't depend on anything at all. It is written in black and white, in the Constitution, that all powers not expressly given to the Federal government belong to the states, and to the people.

It's quite simple, actually. No need to look for a reason to believe otherwise. It is stated to a certainty in the Constitution.


 
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