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Chicago doesn't get 2016 Olympics

disneydude said:
Grim you aren't fooling anyone. You are happy that America lost as long as you can spin some failure onto Obama. That is typical of your posts.
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Look, I've made it clear that I'm no fan of Obama, so if I wanted to use that headline to bash the guy, I damned well would do it. That isn't the case here pal, so you can stuff your "Republicans want America to fail" bull**** where it belongs...

I stated clearly why I posted that headline, and stated for the record that I don't believe that politics played a part in the committees decision. I expected a headline like that to come from some partisan on-line news outlet here in the States, not from the Times of London.

If I have something to say, or have a message for anyone, I will say it loud and clear.

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Apocalypse said:
Reality would like to disagree with you.
Beijing Olympic Organizers Report $176M Profit From Games
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Chicago is a bit different from China. It will take billions and billions of dollars to build what is necessary for the Olympics, including buying some property up. While it's possible to make money on the Olympics, if you have to build too much stuff it will end up costing you. Less you can get virtually slave labor...like certain commie countries can drag up.

But seeing as smarmy was the way you wanted to go:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113351145
"There has never been an Olympic Games that has made a profit," says Robert Barney, director of the International Centre for Olympic Studies at the University of Western Ontario. Barney is also co-author of Selling the Five Rings: The International Olympic Committee and the Rise of Olympic Commercialism.

Fold in all the costs and revenues, he says, "including federal allotments, municipal allotments, provincial or state allotments, it's always been that a debt has to be paid somewhere."

The additional costs include security and infrastructure improvements not included in the Olympic budgets but provided by government.
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So reality disagrees with you.
 
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Grim17 said:
Look, I've made it clear that I'm no fan of Obama, so if I wanted to use that headline to bash the guy, I damned well would do it. That isn't the case here pal, so you can stuff your "Republicans want America to fail" bull**** where it belongs...

I stated clearly why I posted that headline, and stated for the record that I don't believe that politics played a part in the committees decision. I expected a headline like that to come from some partisan on-line news outlet here in the States, not from the Times of London.

If I have something to say, or have a message for anyone, I will say it loud and clear.

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Whatever dude....you were practically wetting your pants in your post.
 
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The thing that is sad about this is that hosting the Olympics should be a positive, and yet people are so blinded by partisanship that the failure to get it for the US is viewed as a political triumph. That attitude is a good example of one the the biggest problems in this country now. If we could harness all the energy that is wasted on partisan bickering on working for solutions for this country, it would be an even greater place.
 
Redress said:
The thing that is sad about this is that hosting the Olympics should be a positive, and yet people are so blinded by partisanship that the failure to get it for the US is viewed as a political triumph. That attitude is a good example of one the the biggest problems in this country now. If we could harness all the energy that is wasted on partisan bickering on working for solutions for this country, it would be an even greater place.
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This is the partisanism. the olympics cost cities money. Obama puts the olympics over every other thing in this country, and you are too partisan to dare critisize your man.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
This is the partisanism. the olympics cost cities money. Obama puts the olympics over every other thing in this country, and you are too partisan to dare critisize your man.
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You've been listening to too much Sean Hannity Rev....give it up.
 
disneydude said:
I agree....I was simply commenting on the wackos who are so desperate to attack Obama that they are happy any time America fails at something.
This thread is a good example.
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These kinds of remarks are coming from those that would talk smack about Dubya in a heartbeat.

disneydude said:
Have you read the comments. They are happy that America failed.
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We did not fail. We have one less thing to worry about financially, as a country. Having a Chicago Olympics would be similar to holding the Olympics in South Dallas or Houston. A lot of work will need to be done. A whole fricking lot of work which costs a whole fricking lot of money.

disneydude said:
Better Carter the second than GWB the first. ;)
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At least GWB had balls (in his first term when dealing with the attacks). Carter? He did some nice things like Habitat for Humanity. Both stink when it comes to economics and finances.

disneydude said:
Are you seriously going to try to argue that GWB did a better job than Carter? :doh
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This isn't really about GWB or Carter.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
This is the partisanism. the olympics cost cities money. Obama puts the olympics over every other thing in this country, and you are too partisan to dare critisize your man.
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There is no proof that the Olympics would cost the city money. That is highly debatable. Obama did not put the Olympics over any other priority, that is pure partisan hackery. Whether you can chew bubblegum and walk at the same time, I promise you Obama can. As to whether I dare criticize Obama, I point you here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/56036-liveral-rants-obama-crunch.html
 
disneydude said:
Are you seriously going to try to argue that GWB did a better job than Carter? :doh
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That would be like arguing that water is wet... Duh...

Carter is the greatest presidential failure of my lifetime. He left America missing Richard Nixon.

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Grim17 said:
That would be like arguing that water is wet... Duh...

Carter is the greatest presidential failure of my lifetime. He left America missing Richard Nixon.

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That's nothing...GWB left us praying for a return of Herbert Hoover.
 
disneydude said:
I'm sure there is a lot of spin both ways.

I do know that the competition is fierce especially among US nominees to get the games.
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This doesn't mean that everyone who thinks it would be a bad idea to hold the olympics in Chicago is opposed because they hate Obama. I was opposed to the idea of having the games in NYC, because I thought it would be an expensive cluster****.

disneydude said:
Are you seriously going to try to argue that GWB did a better job than Carter? :doh
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That would be like arguing that water is wet... Duh...

Carter is the greatest presidential failure of my lifetime. He left America missing Richard Nixon.
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I think that everyone's views on GWB v. Carter are going to be skewed based on their own political predilections, so it's probably pointless to argue about.
 
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Redress said:
There is no proof that the Olympics would cost the city money. That is highly debatable.
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Actually it's not.

cost of hosting olympics - Google Search



Obama did not put the Olympics over any other priority, that is pure partisan hackery. Whether you can chew bubblegum and walk at the same time, I promise you Obama can.
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How do you know he can? That's pure partisan hackery on your part.


He in my opinion from viewing his actions and inactions absolutley put the olympics above the troops.


As to whether I dare criticize Obama, I point you here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/56036-liveral-rants-obama-crunch.html
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:lol: wow. so impressed :ssst: I've defended him more than you praised him. so by your logic, it's not just the Good Reverend who is the "partisan hack"


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Apocalypse said:
I was rooting for Rio from the beginning.
They deserve it, there were no Olympics in Latin America so far.
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Alex said:
I agree. I was not aware that the Olympics were not ever held in Latin America, good for them! A trip to Brazil in 2016 is in my sights.
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Just a little FYI, Mexico City hosted the '68 Olympic Games.

I believe the reference is to the first Olympic games held in South America

An interesting note from the Mexico City games was the introduction of the 'Fosbury flop', where high jumper Dick Fosbury jumped over the bar backwards and head first. It's now pretty much the norm for highjumpers.
 
RightinNYC said:
This doesn't mean that everyone who thinks it would be a bad idea to hold the olympics in Chicago is opposed because they hate Obama. I was opposed to the idea of having the games in NYC, because I thought it would be an expensive cluster****.






I think that everyone's views on GWB v. Carter are going to be skewed based on their own political predilections, so it's probably pointless to argue about.
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I agree. I'm not arguing that if you opposed the Chicago bid its because you hate Obama.

My focus has been on the Obama-haters who didn't really care about the bid, but are elated that the United States lost the bid so that they can claim it is Obama's failure. They are so transpartent.
 
disneydude said:
I agree. I'm not arguing that if you opposed the Chicago bid its because you hate Obama.

My focus has been on the Obama-haters who didn't really care about the bid, but are elated that the United States lost the bid so that they can claim it is Obama's failure. They are so transpartent.
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my my who are these scallawags and evil dooers. :roll:
 
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