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The dead end kids: Young, unemployed and facing tough future

RightinNYC said:
Not sure exactly how to take these numbers, as it's unclear how they're calculating it. I also can't find comparable numbers for previous years.

Considering that the majority of this age group is attending school full-time, I'm a bit skeptical of taking this as a sign of the apocalypse.
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pretty much everybody I knew, while going to college, had jobs.
has there been a major shift?
 
DeeJayH said:
this is an English only forum ;)
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[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital]Human capital - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

RightinNYC said:
Considering that most states only compel attendance through age 16, I doubt that's really affecting these numbers.
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I don't think you understood the fundamental nature of my point. Compulsory attendance during any significant portion of adolescence is bound to be problematic, because we uphold a culture that encourages strict age-based regimentation well past biological adulthood rather than the pursuit of one's preferred initiatives even when a person's ready to make informed decisions about them.
 
The Prof said:
have you learned yet the difference between a bill a law, don?

did the schoolhouse rock lesson take?

how's that OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE BILL coming along these days?
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Yes the correspondence course in bills and laws pretty much cleared that up…. Your sessions on the couch hasn’t seemed to have helped you from your penchant for posting drunk though…sad.:(
 
DeeJayH said:
pretty much everybody I knew, while going to college, had jobs.
has there been a major shift?
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Lots of people worked, but not many worked full-time, which is how they may be calculating unemployment.

Agnapostate said:
I don't think you understood the fundamental nature of my point. Compulsory attendance during any significant portion of adolescence is bound to be problematic, because we uphold a culture that encourages strict age-based regimentation well past biological adulthood rather than the pursuit of one's preferred initiatives even when a person's ready to make informed decisions about them.
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And I very much doubt that there's any way to measure this, so I'll just drop it.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Being 24 and in Management is interesting since the way things are going, the Axe is only a hop, skip and a jump away.
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BTDT.
When you're in Management, the Axe is ALWAYS one mistake away. Heck, even a mistake isn't necessary.
 
Scorpion89 said:
Jeeze I wonder of folks might think about this allof those Good Paying Factory Jobs that have been sent out of North America wonder if that has anything to do with this hmmmm naya that wouldn't have anything to do with good enter level paying jobs.
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Someone gets it. Good post.
 
Agnapostate said:
Human capital - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I don't think you understood the fundamental nature of my point. Compulsory attendance during any significant portion of adolescence is bound to be problematic, because we uphold a culture that encourages strict age-based regimentation well past biological adulthood rather than the pursuit of one's preferred initiatives even when a person's ready to make informed decisions about them.
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And this would all still be irrelevant considering that most places hiring are looking for those who are experienced. Younger people, being alive for fewer years, would have less experience.

One of the things that I always recommend to teens and college students is getting internships...even if they pay nothing. Putting something on your resume that indicates that you have experience is invaluable in this job market.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
And this would all still be irrelevant considering that most places hiring are looking for those who are experienced. Younger people, being alive for fewer years, would have less experience.
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Your own comment also didn't consider the actual nature of my post. I referred to a broader institutional deficiency caused by an authoritarian schooling system that compelled people to go to secondary school even after they'd acquired the initiative to follow other interests.
 
Life's tough, the world is cruel, a job's not going to come knocking on your door, you gotta get out and eat **** for a few years 'fore the good jobs showup on the horizon, it's called paying your dues, you have to go out and get what's your's...welcome to the real world.
 
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donc said:
Your sessions on the couch hasn’t...
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"sessions haven't"

not "sessions hasn't"

"sessions" is plural

4th grade

i'm glad you know now the difference between hr3200 and OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE BILL

but you're going backwards

schoolhouse rock is more like 6th grade
 
donc said:
Yes the correspondence course in bills and laws pretty much cleared that up…. Your sessions on the couch hasn’t seemed to have helped you from your penchant for posting drunk though…sad.:(
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The Prof said:
"sessions haven't"

not "sessions hasn't"

"sessions" is plural

4th grade

i'm glad you know now the difference between hr3200 and OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE BILL

but you're going backwards

schoolhouse rock is more like 6th grade
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Moderator's Warning:
Both of you stop. Now. Or else.
 
yes, sir

for you, captain courtesy, anything

onwards and upwards

cliff
 
Agnapostate said:
Your own comment also didn't consider the actual nature of my post. I referred to a broader institutional deficiency caused by an authoritarian schooling system that compelled people to go to secondary school even after they'd acquired the initiative to follow other interests.
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Initiative and the ability to follow through with initiative are two different things. Without the second, the first is irrelevant.
 
i'm a veteran (oh, boy, am i) public school teacher

too many kids wear signs on their foreheads, blaring in neon---work is for other people but i'm as entitled as anyone to air conditioning because, you don't understand, it's hot
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Initiative and the ability to follow through with initiative are two different things. Without the second, the first is irrelevant.
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That's right. That's the basis for my opposition to the additional artificial constrictions placed on individuals with the practical abilities to follow through, such as extensions of compulsory schooling.
 
Agnapostate said:
That's right. That's the basis for my opposition to the additional artificial constrictions placed on individuals with the practical abilities to follow through, such as extensions of compulsory schooling.
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Then you have drawn the wrong conclusion from what I said.
 
.....Young unemployed and facing a tough future? Haha. This article makes it seem like it's something new..... or is it because suburbs kids are now having the "same" problem as innercity kids?
 
Agnapostate said:
I'm glad you've conceded my point, as evidenced by your lack of an argument. I was afraid that might be a sticky situation for a minute there. :shrug:
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I conceded nothing. Since you didn't understand my point, I realized that debating you on it would be pointless.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I conceded nothing. Since you didn't understand my point, I realized that debating you on it would be pointless.
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You didn't make a point that was relevant to my original comment to begin with, which was that there were constrictions on youths' human capital acquisition imposed through extended compulsory schooling.
 
I work in oil refineries,and the company I work for is always hiring.Most of the young people we hire seem to want to be, rappers, players,pimps or supervisors from the first day they start.Because they sure don't care about their jobs.
All of them are told, not to take cell phones into work areas because they could possibly be a ignition source for fires,do they listen heck no,they don't really care,I sometimes think if you gave them a choice between their cell phone and their job, they would take the cell phone.
We train all of our new people,if they want to learn and advance we single them out for advanced training.
Pay starts at about $14.00 an hour and if you pay attention and want to learn you can make $28.00 an hour in three years time.And their is tons of overtime,so you can make 60k a year pretty easy after a couple of years.
We usually get about 1 out of 20 who will make good workers.Part of that is random drug testing.
 
Agnapostate said:
You didn't make a point that was relevant to my original comment to begin with
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how many times are you going to accuse your correspondent of not addressing your point, a dozen?

why?

why won't anyone repond to what you're SAYING?

LOLOL!

is it cuz edmund burke is the original voice of classical liberalism?

or is it more due to mikhail bakunin embodying the true spirit of libertarianism?

maybe they're all just a bunch of NEOlibs

perhaps we should ask comrade hugo

LOLOLOL!
 
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