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Roman Polanski detained in Zurich

Yeah, I've never liked him either. I'm glad my country has detained him, but I don't think we should extradite him. My guess is we'll probably deport him back to France. But you never know, our government has been doing strange things lately. We'll see what happens. Right now they're looking into whether or not they have enough grounds to extradite him to the US.

No they arrest him on both an USA Fugitive warrent and a conter Interpol Warrent that was filed by the USA with Interpol. he will be sent back tot he USA, your Country has already said it will take about a month or so to get all the legal crap out of the way.

The Scum will finally face justic to bad he can't be locked up with Charle now that would be justice. Maybe they could off each other and save the tax's Payers of Calf. some money.
 
No they arrest him on both an USA Fugitive warrent and a conter Interpol Warrent that was filed by the USA with Interpol. he will be sent back tot he USA, your Country has already said it will take about a month or so to get all the legal crap out of the way.

Our press is reporting no such thing. But then they're notoriously slow and cautious in their reporting, so, like I said, we'll see what happens.
 
Our press is reporting no such thing. But then they're notoriously slow and cautious in their reporting, so, like I said, we'll see what happens.

All US News Outlets are reporting that the Swiss Govn. said it would take about a month or so for him to be sent back.
 
All US News Outlets are reporting that the Swiss Govn. said it would take about a month or so for him to be sent back.

That's not possible, given that we're still waiting for your government to officially file the extradition request and that, apparently, hasn't happened yet. You've got about 40 days to do so. Once the request is filed, our justice ministry will make a decision one way or the other. Keep in mind that France and Poland will be petitioning our government for his release too. This is far from being a done deal.

Quick update: The Tribune de Genève is reporting that France and Poland will petition the US government directly for Polanski's release. They will ask Hillary Clinton to request a pardon from Obama himself.
 
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That's not possible, given that we're still waiting for your government to officially file the extradition request and that, apparently, hasn't happened yet. You've got about 40 days to do so. Once the request is filed, our justice ministry will make a decision one way or the other. Keep in mind that France and Poland will be petitioning our government for his release too. This is far from being a done deal.

Quick update: The Tribune de Genève is reporting that France and Poland will petition the US government directly for Polanski's release. They will ask Hillary Clinton to request a pardon from Obama himself.

I don't think Obama can pardon Polanski - the President only has the power to pardon people accused of federal crimes. Polanski's charges are state charges, so he can only be pardoned by Schwarzenegger.
 
I don't think Obama can pardon Polanski - the President only has the power to pardon people accused of federal crimes. Polanski's charges are state charges, so he can only be pardoned by Schwarzenegger.

Where will the extradition request be issued, though? Can the state of California issue it? According to what I'm reading the request must be made by the US government.
 
They can't get a Federal Pardon because Scum Bucket fled after pleading Guilty.

Plus I can tell you this it would be political sucide for Mr. Obama to even think about it.

Also the United State AG has already ask Swiss to Extradac him the moment the Swiss arrest him of the Fugitive Warrent they filed the Extradition Papers.

Not sure what your side of the World is reporting but most of the US News Outlets are reporting that when Swiss arrest him that US Ag thru the US Embasy in Switzerland filed an official request.

It doesn't really matter what Poland or France ask since they are both signee of Interpol they must go with what Interpol does and since this was also a Interpol Warrent issued thru the United States they must (Swiss) honor it.
 
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Where will the extradition request be issued, though? Can the state of California issue it? According to what I'm reading the request must be made by the US government.

I believe that the extradition is being requested by the federal government on behalf of the state, but the eventual charges he will face are state charges.
 
They can't get a Federal Pardon because Scum Bucket fled after pleading Guilty.

Plus I can tell you this it would be political suciede for Mr. Obama to even think about it.

Alos the United State AG has already ask Swiss to Extradac him the moment the Swiss arrest him of the Fugitive Warrent they filed the Extradition Papers.

Not sure what your side of the World is reporting but most of the US News Outlets are reporting that when Swiss arrest him that US Ag thru the US Embasy in Switzerland filed an official request.

It doesn't really matter what Poland or France ask since they are both signee of Interpol they must go with what Interpol does and since this was also a Interpol Warrent issued thru the United States they must (Swiss) honor it.

Well, when I read it in one of the serious Swiss papers, I'll believe it. They rarely report anything unless they have their facts straight. Also, you are aware that if the Swiss government does agree to extradite him, Polanski will have the option to appeal the extradition in one or both of the two highest Swiss Courts, right? This is not a done deal at all. It could be months, if not years, before he sets foot on US soil.
 
I believe that the extradition is being requested by the federal government on behalf of the state, but the eventual charges he will face are state charges.

I guess that's what France and Poland are hoping Obama can stop. The actual extradition request. But like Scorpion said, it would probably be politically unwise for the prez to even consider it.
 
Well, when I read it in one of the serious Swiss papers, I'll believe it. They rarely report anything unless they have their facts straight. Also, you are aware that if the Swiss government does agree to extradite him, Polanski will have the option to appeal the extradition in one or both of the two highest Swiss Courts, right? This is not a done deal at all. It could be months, if not years, before he sets foot on US soil.

Well I read it on the following BBC,NBC,CNN,Fox to name a few also The US State Dept. is going to have anew release on Monday.

As for the appeals by what I have read he gets two and they must happen with-in 60 days of the offical extration request. This is what the Treaty that the USA and Swiss have.

It's pretty much avery done deal he will never go back to France and his Cushy Life Style trust me on this one. he will end his day in Pelicon Bay with the rest of the Scum. My hop eis that they put him in with some rapist now that would be justice.
 
He is so freaky
 
What makes it even more repulsive is the mother of the girl knew she was given drugs and turned into a zombie and let her be served up to him for a **** because she was a stage mother thinking it would open doors for her.

Polanski is a sick man. So is this evil mother.
did i miss the link, or is this common knowledge, because the mother is just as culpable as far as I am concerned
Roman Polanski's 'victim' is mother who wants charges dropped - Telegraph

I know what he did was terribly wrong and sick, although there are questions about whether or not he knew she was only 13 years old at the time, but shouldn't the wishes of the only person who really matters here be taken into consideration? Why aren't the victim's wishes respected? She wants the charges dropped.

This whole case is a mess. A mother who offers her 13 year old daughter to a sleazy older guy, who then proceeds to drug and rape her despite her protests. Even if he thought she was legal he DID force himself on her. A judge who agrees to a plea bargain and then changes his mind, forcing the guy to flea the country. The poor confused girl pleading for the charges to be dropped so she can go on with her life without having to be brought back into the spotlight time and time again.

Something's got to give here. I mean come on. Leave the woman alone already. She's done with this ****.

I hope he is extradicted and spends teh rest of his days on earth being raped by huge men with massive engorged members
 
Hitler is alive and well in Switzerland ? The "former " Nazis that we kept "free" are the ones who had rocket expertise and maybe a few who could help us with the Soviets. That was a moral and inteligence tradeoff we mad

So it's okay to take part in the murder of 6 million Jews if you did what after? Watch the Soviet Union kill 20 million more people during the Cold War? I'm calling your sense of morality into serious questioning and your 'moral tradeoff' a complete fallacy.
 
What makes it even more repulsive is the mother of the girl knew she was given drugs and turned into a zombie and let her be served up to him for a **** because she was a stage mother thinking it would open doors for her.

Polanski is a sick man. So is this evil mother.

The story I just read told a completely different version of the story with regard to the Mom. She is the one who contacted the police after the girl returned home and told her Mom what had happened.

Justice for Polanski - The Daily Beast
 
That said, a pedophile is an individual who experiences prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children; it's a misapplication of clinical terminology to describe Polanski as one.
Pedophile
–noun Psychiatry.
an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

Pedophile Definition | Definition of Pedophile at Dictionary.com

He had sex with a 13 year old girl... I dunno, sounds like a pedophile.
Perhaps you could give me a link to the source you were basing your claim on?
 
Perhaps you've heard of a little APA-published manual known as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, dear fellow? Pedophilia is classified as a mental illness and paraphilia that involves prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children of either sex characterized by intense and recurring fantasies and possible action on that attraction, though that's not a necessary condition. Though the unethical nature of Mr. Polanski's actions isn't disputed, the misapplication of clinical terminology is. ;)
 
Perhaps you've heard of a little APA-published manual known as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, dear fellow? Pedophilia is classified as a mental illness and paraphilia that involves prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children of either sex characterized by intense and recurring fantasies and possible action on that attraction, though that's not a necessary condition. Though the unethical nature of Mr. Polanski's actions isn't disputed, the misapplication of clinical terminology is. ;)
Well let's check what other sources have to say on this:
Pedophilia:

This disorder is characterized by either intense sexually arousing fantasies, urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child (typically age 13 or younger). To be considered for this diagnosis, the individual must be at least 16 years old and at least 5 years older than the child.
Pedophilia in Paraphilias and Sexual Disorders at ALLPSYCH Online

Under this definition, Polanski can definitely be labeled as a pedophile.
 
Under this definition, Polanski can definitely be labeled as a pedophile.

He cannot. Firstly, the age of 13 mentioned there is not a precise rule, but is merely a generalization. Sexual attraction to a biological adult female who was 13 years old would not constitute "pedophilia," for example, and would constitute hebephilia (a sexual attraction to pubescent individuals between childhood and adolescence), ephebophilia (a sexual attraction to adolescents), or mere heterosexuality. Secondly, a sexual interaction with a prepubescent child is not sufficient to establish one as a pedophile since one can be a situational offender that does not meet actual diagnostic criteria, to say nothing of a sexual interaction with an adolescent as was the case here.

What you've of course ignored is that that isn't another source; that's from DSM-IV. :2wave:
 
He cannot. Firstly, the age of 13 mentioned there is not a precise rule, but is merely a generalization. Sexual attraction to a biological adult female who was 13 years old would not constitute "pedophilia," for example, and would constitute hebephilia (a sexual attraction to pubescent individuals between childhood and adolescence), ephebophilia (a sexual attraction to adolescents), or mere heterosexuality. Secondly, a sexual interaction with a prepubescent child is not sufficient to establish one as a pedophile since one can be a situational offender that does not meet actual diagnostic criteria, to say nothing of a sexual interaction with an adolescent as was the case here.
1) Then you would agree with me that in the case where the 13 years old is not a biological adult, it is indeed, pedophilia?
2) So are you saying that if an adult rapes a child only one time, he is not a pedophile? :confused:
Where was this being said?
What you've of course ignored is that that isn't another source; that's from DSM-IV. :2wave:
Well I'll be damned, I honestly didn't notice.
 
1) Then you would agree with me that in the case where the 13 years old is not a biological adult, it is indeed, pedophilia?

Possibly, though the exceptions that I mentioned of course apply.

2) So are you saying that if an adult rapes a child only one time, he is not a pedophile? :confused:
Where was this being said?

Your mind is riddled with confusions. Pedophilia is a mental illness, and does not involve or necessitate any specific action. One can of course be a pedophile without having committed any illegalities, and many situational offenders who do not meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia exist.

Well I'll be damned, I honestly didn't notice.

That doesn't surprise me.
 
Your mind is riddled with confusions. Pedophilia is a mental illness, and does not involve or necessitate any specific action. One can of course be a pedophile without having committed any illegalities, and many situational offenders who do not meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia exist.
And I haven't suggested otherwise.
One could say however that when a person rapes a child he does it out of a sexual attraction towards the child, and hence, he has the mental disorder known as pedophilia.
That doesn't surprise me.
Neither does your response surprise me.
 
One could say however that when a person rapes a child he does it out of a sexual attraction towards the child, and hence, he has the mental disorder known as pedophilia.

One could, but it's not sufficient evidence that he meets diagnostic criteria for it, just as prison rapists are usually not homosexuals. In the case of Polanski, there's no basis for even starting down that road. Try again. :shrug:
 
One could, but it's not sufficient evidence that he meets diagnostic criteria for it, just as prison rapists are usually not homosexuals. In the case of Polanski, there's no basis for even starting down that road. Try again. :shrug:
The basis to start down that road is the rape of a 13 year old girl, so your claim that there is no basis at all is quite bizarre.
 
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