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White Philly officer told to get rid of cornrows

What about a Burka, that would solve the problem.
 
What about a Burka, that would solve the problem.

For both the men and the women? Wouldn't that make it hard to chase after criminals? :mrgreen:
 
What about a Burka, that would solve the problem.

Interestingly enough, those are banned by the same police department and had a case in 2007 about it.

To me this cornrow thing is obviously racism. I' seeing reports where dozens of black male officers are allowed to have cornrows.

I don't use the BS term "reverse racism", because racism doesn't have a preset direction.
 
For both the men and the women? Wouldn't that make it hard to chase after criminals? :mrgreen:
well make the crim wear them as well:lol:
 
if no men can wear them, white or black, what's the issue here?

really? are you sure black male officers wear cornrows in philly?

no, it didn't report that. did you miss this?:

so it's not been determined if black men are allowed to wear cornrows.

Nice to see you got there by your fourth post. It's almost as if you read what I OPed but replied to someone else. (If I've lost you - you twice quoted me - your first and 3rd post I believe)

I stated in the OP - "The report doesn't ever say male black policemen are allowed cornrow hairstyles - just black female officers - so there is a small doubt."
 
Interestingly enough, those are banned by the same police department and had a case in 2007 about it.

To me this cornrow thing is obviously racism. I' seeing reports where dozens of black male officers are allowed to have cornrows.

I don't use the BS term "reverse racism", because racism doesn't have a preset direction.
Friar mate to be serious, if black officers are allowed to wear the hair style in question, then I agree with you.

Its a good job Donald Trump is not a cop:)
 
Interestingly enough, those are banned by the same police department and had a case in 2007 about it.

To me this cornrow thing is obviously racism. I' seeing reports where dozens of black male officers are allowed to have cornrows.

I don't use the BS term "reverse racism", because racism doesn't have a preset direction.


I didn't see any reports about dozens of black male officers, only dozens of black officers.
 
Police spokesman says black cop ordered to cut off cornrows in the past. Where's the racism?


White Philly officer told to get rid of cornrows

AP
Published: Sep 21, 2009


(snip...)

Police spokesman Lt. Frank Vanore says Strain's boss told the officer to cut his hair to look more "professional."

Vanore says officers' hats must fit "in a military manner" over their hair, and that Strain's hat did not. Strain got a haircut; he declined comment to the paper.

Vanore recalled only one black officer with braids in the past several years. He says that officer also was told to get a haircut.

AP News : White Philly officer told to get rid of cornrows
 
I may have read it wrong, but in my world, Sexism and racism are equally bad.

They've already admitted to the sexism.


Sorry, military and para-military and just regular, organizations have different hair regulations for men and women. Expecting a woman to conform to male norms is what is sexist.
 
Sorry, military and para-military and just regular, organizations have different hair regulations for men and women. Expecting a woman to conform to male norms is what is sexist.

I never said they should conform to male norms. I do believe they should have the same standards. Such as the hat fitting a certain way, or looking professional.

A style of haircut like cornrows doesn't magically become more professional looking or allow a hat to be worn a specific way if it's situated above a set of tits.
 
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Vanore recalled only one black officer with braids in the past several years. He says that officer also was told to get a haircut.

So ...

Males of all races are told to get the haircut? No racism here folks.
 
I never said they should conform to male norms. I said they should have the same standards. Such as the hat fitting a certain way, or looking professional.

A style of haircut like cornrows doesn't magically become more professional looking or allow a hat to be worn a specific way if it's situated above a set of tits.


Yes, it does. Just as in the military tied up hair for women is acceptable for women, but not for men. And, tits have nothing to do with it. A woman with no tits (mastectomy or otherwise) still adheres to the standard for women and not for men.
 
Sexism is no better than racism.

It makes NO difference what sex the other corn-rowed officers are.
 
Sexism is no better than racism.

It makes NO difference what sex the other corn-rowed officers are.

Yes it does, since regs are different for men and women, reflecting norms in our society, and such regs have never been statutorily determined to be sexist.

However, reading an article about dozens of black officers, and imputing that it means dozens of black male officers does reveal a gender bias.
 
Yes, it does. Just as in the military tied up hair for women is acceptable for women, but not for men.

If the standard is, as was clearly stated, that hats should fit a certain way, it should apply to both genders. That's just common sense. Changing it for one gender, but not the otehr, is obvious sexism.


And, tits have nothing to do with it. A woman with no tits (mastectomy or otherwise) still adheres to the standard for women and not for men.

Well, if we're going to play that way, these haircuts do not magically become less professional or less able to allow a hat to be worn a certain way if they're situated a few feet above a ****.
 
It is racist and sexist of you to raise these issues! Or was it racist and sexist to single out the pasty pale guy? I get confused.

Neither, IMO.
Don't these people have anything better to do ?
Don't they know that their duty to the public is number one, their reason for being?
"They" includes the governor on down.
Being concerned with an officer's hair is none of their business.
But, at all times, the public servants must listen to their "superiors", the general public.
"Listen" means take under advisement, not necessarily obey.
 
If the standard is, as was clearly stated, that hats should fit a certain way, it should apply to both genders. That's just common sense. Changing it for one gender, but not the otehr, is obvious sexism.




Well, if we're going to play that way, these haircuts do not magically become less professional or less able to allow a hat to be worn a certain way if they're situated a few feet above a ****.


Sorry, expecting a woman to conform to male norms is what is sexist.
 
Yes it does, since regs are different for men and women, reflecting norms in our society, and such regs have never been statutorily determined to be sexist.

Actually they have, when one looks at things the other way. Women are allowed to go to work using the male standards and preventing that has been deemed sexist, but men are not allowed to use the female standards.


However, reading an article about dozens of black officers, and imputing that it means dozens of black male officers does reveal a gender bias.

Or a presumption that the writer of the article made an "apples to apples" comparison.
 
Yes it does, since regs are different for men and women, reflecting norms in our society, and such regs have never been statutorily determined to be sexist.

Statutorily ain't the whole enchilada.

The practice is sexism, and won't survive any scrutiny under the harsh light of reality.
 
Sorry, expecting a woman to conform to male norms is what is sexist.

Thats not what she is being expected to conform to, she is being expected to conform to our law's norms for a cop.
 
Sorry, expecting a woman to conform to male norms is what is sexist.

Sexist ?
I think that it is JPS(just plain stupid).
And a policeman's hat should not have to be worn at all times.
A different hat for the women, if not already the case, would be apropos.
 
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