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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

jallman said:
Of course it doesn't go for all black americans, but yeah, I see a lot of racism in the lower classes of black americans and it's not only toward other ethnicities but towards each other's level of blackness.
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I don't think it is just a 'american' thing tho. Blacks judge each other on 'blackness' here. Heck, i see it all the time here. The more light you are, the more 'white' you are seen.

All races have their own form of discrimination. My colleagues tell me it is similar with Asians not quite as sure if it is there for whites
 
Devil505 said:
If your purpose is to swap insults I'm on 2 Basement threads. These (adult) forums are to discuss adult issues.
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So why are you here? :lol:
 
After 728 post on this thread, I'm still waiting for someone to post the proof that backs up Peanut Boy's allegations?

Anyone?? Anyone??

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Grim17 said:
After 728 post on this thread, I'm still waiting for someone to post the proof that backs up Peanut Boy's allegations?

Anyone?? Anyone??

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They're too busy trying to stuff the senile old bastard back into the closet. :lol:
 
Devil505 said:
Just came down & having my first cup of coffee but found this one in 3 minutes:
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Originally Posted by Alex View Post
I am failing to see how Wilson's outburst was in any way a racist one. (my emphasis)
When I have more time I'll find more for you.;)
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You must have misunderstood the question.

This is NOT evidence about Wilson's outburst, it is an opinion.
 
Voidwar said:
You must have misunderstood the question.

This is NOT evidence about Wilson's outburst, it is an opinion.
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Sorry...When Alex says "In any way"...that precludes the possibility (in his mind) that Wilson's outburst was racially motivated & simply is "un-knowable" unless you're a mind reader.
 
Devil505 said:
Sorry...When Alex says "In any way"...that precludes the possibility (in his mind) that Wilson's outburst was racially motivated & simply is "un-knowable" unless you're a mind reader.
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his outburst was no more racist than your post.


It's also possible that you are a racist.... See in a way, I think you are one...


(the logic as usual FAILS)
 
Devil505 said:
Sorry...When Alex says "In any way"...that precludes the possibility (in his mind) that Wilson's outburst was racially motivated & simply is "un-knowable" unless you're a mind reader.
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If you don't know the difference between opinion and evidence, it is not my failing.
 
Devil505 said:
Hows does anyone suspect anything??? what a silly argument.
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Most rational people have suspicions and make conclusions based on facts and evidence. If your claims can't be backed up by supporting evidence then they are baseless and worthless.

When suspicions are based on nothing more than tingling sensation a liberal gets in their pants when they smear an opponent with the racist tag, then we've beyond being merely baseless and worthless and are now actively malicious.

As for the quote you produced "proving" that Wilson's defenders claim he's absolutely not a racist ...

I am failing to see how Wilson's outburst was in any way a racist one. (Emphasis mine)
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He's not saying its utterly impossible that Wilson is a racist. He's merely saying based on the facts we know right now, he fails to see how Wilson's words were in any way racist. I agree with that entirely.

You're really just a slightly more clever version of Limt, aren't you? You take the words fo those who disagree with and twist and contort them into a strawman that doesn't exist and refuse to move away from attacking that strawman no matter how many people point out the fallacy.
 
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Devil505 said:
As usual we are off to the "Semantics Weed Forest" again.
What is plain to anyone is that the ONLY way Alex could KNOW what was in Wilson's mind... when he (Alex) says: "I am failing to see how Wilson's outburst was in any way a racist one."....is if Alex can read minds.......How can he KNOW what Wilson was thinking?

That's.kinda the whole point here.
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There's more evidence that Carter hates Jews than that Wilson is a racist. In fact I would go so far as to say that it has been conclusively proven that Carter hates Jews and is a Nazi collaborator.
 
Erod said:
It's just the way it is.
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That is quite a generalization to make without even an attempt to post verifiable evidence. How about a link at least for an example?
 
Voidwar said:
This is NOT evidence about Wilson's outburst, it is an opinion.
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Opinions can be "well founded" or they can be "baseless".

From what I've seen on this thread, every single one of the opinions that were posted in agreement with Carter, lack any sort of foundation, and can only be classified one way... as "Baseless Opinion".

Lots of people voice opinions... But only a fool voices an opinion that they can't substantiate.

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Psychoclown said:
You're really just a slightly more clever version of Limt, aren't you? You take the words fo those who disagree with and twist and contort them into a strawman that doesn't exist and refuse to move away from attacking that strawman no matter how many people point out the fallacy.
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I don't do that but......What a perfect description of the tactic I see used here by some others!
Dead On:applaud
 
Barack Obama himself rejects the racial assertions of Jimmy Carter...

Obama Rejects Race as Lead Cause of Criticism
By JEFF ZELENY
Published: September 18, 2009

WASHINGTON — President Obama said Friday that he did not believe his race was the cause of fierce criticism aimed at his administration in the contentious national debate over health care, but rather that the cause was a sense of suspicion and distrust many Americans have in their government.

“Are there people out there who don’t like me because of race? I’m sure there are,” Mr. Obama told CNN. “That’s not the overriding issue here.”

In five separate television interviews at the White House, Mr. Obama said he did not agree with former President Jimmy Carter’s assertion that racism was fueling the opposition to his administration. He described himself as just the latest in a line of presidents whose motives had been questioned because they were trying to enact major change.
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Source: NYTimes
 
Paraphrasing some AP dude, the racist label is quickly losing it's power. The constant hurling of the racist slur is becoming more of a spitball than a stigma.

This is a real shame too. There are occasions that it is appropriate and, now, those deserving of it will no longer worry about being labeled.


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Tashah said:
Barack Obama himself rejects the racial assertions of Jimmy Carter...


Source: NYTimes
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It would have been political suicide for him to do otherwise. Obama is wise to keep his eyes on the goal of healthcare reform. The repugs have some nasty tactics but Obama is rising above it.

IMO Wilson's outburst was planned just like the planned disruptions at the Town Hall meetings.
 
Tashah said:
Barack Obama himself rejects the racial assertions of Jimmy Carter...
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But wait a minute......I thought Obama was a liar....so why would you believe him when he says that??:confused:

(can't have your cake & eat it too)
 
Psychoclown said:
You know, I'm not a Obama fan by any definition, but I have to give him credit for that. :clap:
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But he's a liar...right??

(I get it....He's only a liar when he says things you don't agree with...Got it!)
 
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Devil505 said:
But wait a minute......I thought Obama was a liar....so why would you believe him when he says that??:confused:

(can't have your cake & eat it too)
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What you think, and what I think, are obviously not always equitable.
 
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