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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

Voidwar said:
Don't leave out the Mullahs and the Imams, oh wait, you already said terrorists, so nevermind :)
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You are such a little .... :/

What do the Imams have to do with who flew a plane into the twin towers? Oh wait, that is right. Nothing. :roll:
 
As far as I'm concerned, Isla Fisher and Kate Beckinsale are always on-topic.
 
Truth Detector said:
I am confused; what numerous forms would it take for a short visit to kidnap your hottie?

I have never filled out many forms to get into any country other than the typical one page declaration.

I stated that it was something in "COMMON," not one that we differed on. ;)
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Alot.
My plan to kidnap is being derailed by bureaucracy

:rofl
My mistake
 
Laila said:
What do the Imams have to do with who flew a plane into the twin towers? Oh wait, that is right. Nothing. :roll:
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Imams and Mullahs explain to Muslims what Dar al Harb is, and why they should make war on it until it becomes Dar al Islam.
 
Truth Detector said:
Damnit! I hate when Zyph ignores me! :rofl

Well actually I don't; I find this amusing.

Okay, someone tell Zyph that is exactly what I told him.... TFF
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I have to run an errand but I think this debate (about blame for 9/11) has been....:beatdeadhorse ............& we all should get back on topic here.
(I accept some blame here to):3oops:
 
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Voidwar said:
Imams and Mullahs explain to Muslims what Dar al Harb is, and why they should make war on it until it becomes Dar al Islam.
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Oh right.
How stupid.

Well change of plans TD. Guess kidnapping will have to come after i wage war on infidels :roll:
 
Oh I completely understand that some of you are sleeper cells, biding your time and accumulating wealth and education from your enemy.

I used to work with one, then they found the $40000 in his locker and forged passports, and he skipped town.

Don't think that because you are enjoying life in the West, that your religion isn't warring on the West.

Muslims in the West ? Taking advantage of the easy life, and quietly acquiring education and technology, while waiting for Islam to catch up. Doesn't mean the rest of us lose sight of the real goals of the religion or what its more devout adherents are up to.
 
Voidwar said:
I thought he (Jimmy Carter) was a great man, terrible president, but this outburst of unsubstantiated crap has thrown that regard out the window.
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Let me put it to you like this...

Rep. Wilson's outburst heard by any outsider - that is a Yankee (like myself; I only live in the south :lol: ), a Westerner, mid-Westerner or someone from the North-East - probably only heard the words, "You Lie!". But to those who know Rep. Wilson and are very much aware of how he thinks, they know the truth behind his words.

You see, like many Americans I believed Rep. Wilson was speaking directly to the flaw in H.R. 3200 as it relates to the lack of an ID requirement to validate one's U.S. citizenship status and, therefore, his eligibility to receive health care under the bill. And for the most part he was correct. But from what I'm now learning about the character of the man that is Rep. Wilson, he's as much a part of the southern "good ole boy network" as they come. So, what everyone else who know him heard was, "You Lie, you N....!"

Again, neither my ears nor my conscience heard that. But those who know him know exactly from where he truly spoke.
 
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Voidwar said:
Oh I completely understand that some of you are sleeper cells, biding your time and accumulating wealth and education from your enemy.

I used to work with one, then they found the $40000 in his locker and forged passports, and he skipped town.

Don't think that because you are enjoying life in the West, that your religion isn't warring on the West.

Muslims in the West ? Taking advantage of the easy life, and quietly acquiring education and technology, while waiting for Islam to catch up. Doesn't mean the rest of us lose sight of the real goals of the religion or what its more devout adherents are up to.
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Who are my enemy first of all

I enjoy living in the west, infact i love living in UK

Its cringing to read what you are writing. I can't believe people like you exist.
 
Objective Voice said:
But to those who know Rep. Wilson and are very much aware of how he thinks, they know the truth behind his words.
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Pure HorseHockey

I know what YOU think, and YOU think little girls are fun to fondle.

Go ahead and defend yourself from my accusation.

Nevermind that no one has seen you fondle, nor heard you express the sentiment,

I know the dirty truth about what you think . . . .

Now, I might retract my ludicrous assertion about you, but only if you will acknowledge, straight out of the gate, that if you did not hear racism or record racism, then you are an IDIOT to accuse racism.
 
Laila said:
Who are my enemy first of all
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Dar al Harb. Care to explain to the readers what that Islamic concept means ?

Laila said:
Its cringing to read what you are writing. I can't believe people like you exist.
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Did you Muslims think you had everyone fooled ?
 
Moderator's Warning:
Voidwar. Stop derailing the thread or a thread ban will occur.
 
Rgr that, we can talk about Islam somewhere else.

Further, I hope everyone understands the thought experiment above, and does not think I was actually accusing OV of nasty thoughts.
 
Devil505 said:
A sensible argument, worthy of a serious response:

I believe my ideas (as to the motives of a majority of the anti-HC movement) are far more measurable & less fanciful than any others I can think of.
Are we supposed to really believe that..after 8 years of paying for all the fiascos & wars of Bush & the GOP...with not a word about how are we gonna pay for them...That SUDDENLY the GOP is fiscally responsible???...& only when a Dem is in the WH???

That this whole dog & pony show against HC reform isn't just to protect their masters.......Big Insurance?


No...I think my ideas on motive are much more believable than yours, & racism is just an ugly weapon to achieve their goal of keeping the status quo.
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Healthcare gave Obama 1.4 million in campaign contributions.

They gave McCain 1/2 a million.

Who's protecting their master??
 
And, back in the topic . . .

Jimmy Carter is a failed President, an old fool, and the fact that he considered "Fahrenheit 911" so meritorious as to invite Michael Moore to sit in his box at the Democratic Convention tells you most of what you need to know about his take on the political scene.
 
Harshaw said:
And, back in the topic . . .

Jimmy Carter is a failed President, an old fool, and the fact that he considered "Fahrenheit 911" so meritorious as to invite Michael Moore to sit in his box at the Democratic Convention tells you most of what you need to know about his take on the political scene.
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You know, I used to have some respect for Carter. Yes, he was an awful President, but I admired his honesty, and at least he believed what he was professing. However, as he has gotten older, his positions have become, IMO, more and more anti-American, or at least anti- towards American interests, and as an ex-President, his words hold some weight. This makes comments he makes potentially dangerous, especially things like he has done in this situation.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You know, I used to have some respect for Carter. Yes, he was an awful President, but I admired his honesty, and at least he believed what he was professing. However, as he has gotten older, his positions have become, IMO, more and more anti-American, or at least anti- towards American interests, and as an ex-President, his words hold some weight. This makes comments he makes potentially dangerous, especially things like he has done in this situation.
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You see, this is why we strip our PMs of their title the second they hand in the resignation note to the Queen.
Blair can go wander off to wherever he wants.
You still call your 'ex' Presidents 'President'
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You know, I used to have some respect for Carter. Yes, he was an awful President, but I admired his honesty, and at least he believed what he was professing. However, as he has gotten older, his positions have become, IMO, more and more anti-American, or at least anti- towards American interests, and as an ex-President, his words hold some weight. This makes comments he makes potentially dangerous, especially things like he has done in this situation.
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And today Pelosi was crying over right wing rhetoric that may incite violence. What does she think of Farter's remark?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You know, I used to have some respect for Carter. Yes, he was an awful President, but I admired his honesty, and at least he believed what he was professing. However, as he has gotten older, his positions have become, IMO, more and more anti-American, or at least anti- towards American interests, and as an ex-President, his words hold some weight. This makes comments he makes potentially dangerous, especially things like he has done in this situation.
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Yes, and I've never understood the anti-Americanism.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Two things. Firstly, as to the OP, I still have seen zero evidence that what Wilson said was racially motivated. NONE.
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Pardon me, but you do not matter. What you "think" is evidence remains irrelevent.

There has plenty of submissions of Wilson's nefearious background as to his membership in the SCV and the current dynamic of that fringe organization.

Where there is smoke, there is fire.
 
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