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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

I'm still waiting for the evidence that shows Joe Wilson is racist.

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I'm still waiting for the evidence that shows Joe Wilson is racist.

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I doubt if it'll be forthcoming. Hopefully this will all die down, it's ridiculous really that we are even wasting time ruminating over it like this.
 
dang, 150 posts about personalities, parameters, non-empirical viewpoints and prejudiced pundits

LOLOLOL!

for those more mature members of this forum (the majority, thankfully), let's get back to the topic at hand:

press secty gibbs decidedly DISAGREES with carter the vacillator

but then gibbs says he "does not see a large national conversation going on" on this topic

the press secty must be blind, unfortunately

and/or deaf

the topic was the leader for chrissy's hardball this afternoon and the finale on baier's special report on fox

if opposition to obama over reform is RACIST (LOLOL!), then why did, how could SEVENTY PERCENT of americans once have APPROVED of our excitingly FIRST african american president?

rasmussen, the most accurate pollster in the nation in 04, 06 and 08, has only TWELVE % (today) agreeing with the hammer holding homes-for-humanity herald

while SIXTY SEVEN % beg to differ with the worst president america has suffered since ww2

12% Say Most Opponents of Obama Health Care Plan Are Racist - Rasmussen Reports

http://www.fordham.edu/images/acade...ccuracy in the 2008 presidential election.pdf

another point---if joe wilson IS indeed a racist, then it is a BIGOT who just beat obama's bruised behind on the issue of illegals

WH on health care, illegal immigrants - First Read - msnbc.com

indeed, just like obama, GATEKEEPER baucus felt compelled to go out of his way to PUT IN enforcement mechanisms currently nonexistent in the house bill to ensure our illegal neighbors and friends are NOT included in expanded coverage

washingtonpost.com

congressman emanuel cleaver of missouri, a black dem, said today that his party "couldn't make a bigger mistake" than to impose race as an issue into these debates

he's right

leaders are always foolish who ATTACK their critics

and labeling racist all the people pictured below, in today's social/political context, is about as bad as calling them all a bunch of child molesters

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it's suicide politics to assail concerned citizens as racist who simply scruple to question their president over the specifics of his piece

to do so would be to include jay rockefeller, ron wyden, diane feinstein, charlie rangel (the most corrupt man in washington) and dozens of other prominent dems from both wings of the party as HATERS

oh well, carry on

the dems struggle mightily with the fundamental difference between LEADERSHIP and cheap, ordinary opposition politics

health care is in ICU
 
It's such a stupid thing.

Is it really a good idea for the Democrats to be beating this preposterous drumbeat that everyone opposed to this health care bill is racist (among a whole of other nasty things)? Opposition is, by most polls, the majority position, and the Democrats are going to alienate more and more people the shriller they get.

We've got the usual suspects running around this board squealing about how the Republican "scare tactics," et al., against Democrats are going to turn voters off. Well, the Republicans are attacking Democrats. With all of this stuff, Democrats are attacking the voters, with vile, nasty bilge.

They keep it up, they could be routed next year. "You think I'm a racist, huh? See ya."
 
It's such a stupid thing.

Is it really a good idea for the Democrats to be beating this preposterous drumbeat that everyone opposed to this health care bill is racist "

7 times out of 10 when I hear this racist crapola it is coming from the right wing not the left wing. Granted there is Al Sharpton and comments from Jimmy Carter but just listen to AM radio and it is all they can talk about!
 
It's not the "right wing" saying opposition is racist.
 
April 12, 2008
THE RACISM: Kentucky Congressman Geoff Davis referred to 46-year-old adult man Barack Obama as "that boy" at a Lincoln Day dinner, as in, "That boy's finger does not need to be on the button."

April 28, 2008
THE RACISM: On sale at the Republican Party's booth at the Evergreen State Fair in Washington State around the time of the Pennsylvania primary was a three-dollar bill showing Obama wearing a Muslim headdress.
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June 2008
THE RACISM: At the Texas state GOP convention last June, one vendor sold this button asking, "If Obama is President will we still call it the White House?" Get it? Because he's black.

October 16, 2008
THE RACISM: The classy October newsletter of the Chaffey Community Republican Women of San Bernadino, California, contained a food stamp depicting Obama as a donkey surrounded by things black people are supposed to enjoy eating.
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November 5, 2008
THE RACISM: South Carolina political consultant, and co-owner of the political website SC Hotline, Jeffrey Sewell, made an insightful Obama-Curious George comparison on Twitter the day after the election.

December 2008
THE RACISM: As a Christmas present, Tennessee RNC chairman Chip Saltsman sent out a CD of political parody songs, including one called "Barack the Magic Negro," which was based on the title of a Los Angeles Times article of the same name.

January 2009
THE RACISM: Salvatore Ballarino, an appointed member of Staten Island's Community Education Council District 31, forwarded numerous, supposedly humorous, photo strips comparing black people to monkeys or excrement.

January 30, 2009
THE RACISM: After President Obama's inauguration, Carol Carter, a Republican state committeewoman in Florida, sent out an e-mail quipping "How can 2,000,000 blacks get into Washington, DC in 1 day in sub zero temps when 200,000 couldn't get out of New Orleans in 85 degree temps with four days notice?" The subject line, providing a truly dishonest assessment of the contents within, read, "Amazing!"

Feb 25, 2009
THE RACISM: Dean Grose, the mayor of Los Alamitos, California, thought a "small group of friends" -- including a black woman, not incidentally -- would get a kick out of an e-mail showing a watermelon patch growing on the White House lawn, and the caption, "No Easter egg hunt this year."
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March 9, 2009
THE RACISM: The mayor of Dallas, Georgia, posted an esoteric message on his Facebook page, seen here, that is believed by the Internet-commenter hive-mind to refer to Schlitz beer and Camel cigarettes -- you know, things Obama might reasonably be expected to offer Gordon Brown as a gift.

April 27, 2009
THE RACISM: On their website, the Republican Women of Clifton joked that Baskin Robbins had created a new ice-cream flavor named Barocky Road, which was half vanilla and half chocolate. But, this extended metaphor continues, the "vanilla portion of the mix is not openly advertised and usually denied as an ingredient," which doesn't even make any sense. Does "white woman from Kansas" ring any bells? It should.
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May 28, 2009
THE RACISM: Sherri Goforth, an executive assistant for Tennessee state senator Diane Black, e-mailed a photo collage of America's presidents that portrays President Obama as a set of eyes in the darkness.
racistphotocollage.jpg


June 12, 2009
THE RACISM: Longtime GOP activist and former South Carolina State Senate candidate Rusty Depass wrote on Facebook that an escaped gorilla was "just one of Michelle's ancestors -- probably harmless."

June 12, 2009
THE RACISM: Another South Carolina GOP activist, Mike Green, tweeted the alleged joke, "JUST HEARD OBAMA IS GOING TO IMPOSE A 40% TAX ON ASPIRIN BECAUSE IT'S WHITE AND IT WORKS." And yes, it was, obnoxiously, entirely capitalized.

July 1, 2009
THE RACISM: After a friend elegantly declared, "obama bin lauden is the new terrorist....muslim is on there side...need to take this country back from all of these mad coons........and illegals" on the Facebook wall of Young Republican vice-chairman Audra Shay, Shay responded, eight minutes later, "You tell em Eric! lol."


but Jimmy, what republican racism are you possibly referring to? [/s]

All you have proven is that racism exists. I never said it did not. You did NOT address the issue of whether what Joe Wilson said was because of racism. Therefore, your post is irrelevant.
 
All you have proven is that racism exists. I never said it did not. You did NOT address the issue of whether what Joe Wilson said was because of racism. Therefore, your post is irrelevant.
Hey I didn't see any chickens running around in that watermelon patch. Where are the cotton fields?
 
All you have proven is that racism exists. I never said it did not.

It wasn't really necessary for you to PROVE his point which you were evidently proud to prove (below).:thumbdown

Hey I didn't see any chickens running around in that watermelon patch. Where are the cotton fields?
 
"Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst to President Barack Obama during a speech to Congress last week was an act 'based on racism' and rooted in fears of a black president."

"'I think it's based on racism,' Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. 'There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.'"

I am failing to see how Wilson's outburst was in any way a racist one. Every comment made against an ethnic minority is not racist, there should be real reason to believe it is before making the accusation. Otherwise, it just makes the issue worse by adding more situations it can used in, even though there is no justification to do so.

What exactly was racist about it? Are people going to get tired of being accused of racism with it eventually backfiring on people like Carter who use it to explain something it is not related to?

Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism' - Yahoo! News

And people oppose death panels for the elderly. :lol:

What are we going to do about Granpa? :2razz:
 
OK, feel free to respond when you have a sensible answer. Your one-liners are tedious.

He's a 'good ol boy', his district is all white and just happens to be next door to a black majority district. IF you think there aren't racial divisions in that area of the country you're sadly mistaken. He supports flying the Confederate flag at the state capitol.

I think Carter had a point. Race is playing a role in the money that Wilson is raising. It's blacklash. Wilson is a neo-confederate.
 
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He's a 'good ol boy', his district is all white and just happens to be next door to a black majority district. IF you think there aren't racial divisions in that area of the country you're sadly mistaken. He supports flying the Confederate flag at the state capitol.

I think Carter had a point. Race is playing a role in the money that Wilson is raising. It's blacklash.

It's not all white. It's 26% black, which is about the same as the entire state.

You could also say that the money his future opponent is raising is race based.

Carter should take his own advise to Wilson and shut up. He ignores decorum by constantly criticizing the Presidents that followed him. Other presidents have refrained from that nasty practice, but Carter can't keep his mouth shut. It almost as if he is trying to make people forget that he was one of the worst presidents in history.
 
It's not all white. It's 26% black, which is about the same as the entire state.

You could also say that the money his future opponent is raising is race based.

Carter should take his own advise to Wilson and shut up. He ignores decorum by constantly criticizing the Presidents that followed him. Other presidents have refrained from that nasty practice, but Carter can't keep his mouth shut. It almost as if he is trying to make people forget that he was one of the worst presidents in history.

Is Joe Wilson still a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans?

If so, does he condone the activities of the "Lunatic" faction that now controls the SCV?

Does Joe Wilson consider the Republican Party "the Party of Lincoln"?

Does Joe Wilson support secession?
 
Who's lying?



Wilson is a major recipient of contributions from the health care industry.

In fact, over his entire congressional career, health professionals represent Wilson’s top industry contributors, donating a total of $244,196 to his campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics OpenSecrets.org database. He received another $86,150 from pharmaceutical companies, $73,050 from insurance companies and $68,000 from hospitals and nursing homes.

Among Wilson’s top contributors are the American Hospital Association, a lobby group that represents the interests of hospitals and health networks, and the American Medical Association, which represents physicians.
Raw Story Obama speech disrupter a health industry darling
 
Who's lying?



Wilson is a major recipient of contributions from the health care industry.

In fact, over his entire congressional career, health professionals represent Wilson’s top industry contributors, donating a total of $244,196 to his campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics OpenSecrets.org database. He received another $86,150 from pharmaceutical companies, $73,050 from insurance companies and $68,000 from hospitals and nursing homes.

Among Wilson’s top contributors are the American Hospital Association, a lobby group that represents the interests of hospitals and health networks, and the American Medical Association, which represents physicians.
Raw Story Obama speech disrupter a health industry darling

That's the main reason for the anti-HC Reform crap that has been bought & paid for by millions of dollars from the insurance & HC industry.
IMO,...what we have been seeing all summer is the HC industry fighting desperately to maintain it's choke hold on the American people & protect their obscene profits.

Now.....add to that recipe :a good helping of right wing...anti Democrat sentiment, anger at losing power in this country, Evangelical dogma & add a touch of ...good old racism &...what do you have??.......The hysterical town hall meetings, the Tea parties & an insurance company undercover agent/ U.S. Congressman yelling at the POTUS ............& all this have been bought & paid for through our insurance company premiums!

That's what this fight is really all about.......Simple Greed!..& racism is merely one of the arrows in their quiver.

(the really sad part about this is that many honest people in this country are being used as unwitting dupes by the HC industry to actually work against their own interests by protecting the profits of the very corporations who are ripping them off through the high premiums they charge!)
 
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You have a predominantly white district represented by Joe Wilson right next to a predominantly black district. There is division and tension along racial lines in that area.



What percentage of the US population is black? hint its less than "26%", that would make it a more than average represented district.


You people seem a but racist to me over this nonsense.:shrug:
 
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