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House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over insult

Even the British Parliament - obnoxious as it is - has rules of order. The US Congress has always had rules of order since its inception, so I really have no idea what you're talking about. And I don't know anything about the Japanese Diet, but given your other two flawed examples I think it's highly likely you're mistaken about that one as well.

No governing body can operate without them. It's simply impossible. To claim that they violate the First Amendment (especially when the power to establish these rules is enshrined in the Constitution) is absurd.

They might have Rule of Order but hey can speech there mind any bloody time they wish with out worring about being censored over it. Yes Article 1 Section 5 does give Congress power to set there rules but that doesn't mean that they follow them, guess you don't know much about History of Congress thru early 18th up to early 20th Century.

As for the Diet you recall these folks the one you see always having fist fights.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

From the linked 'Hill' article:

"It is against House rules to impugn the integrity of the president when speaking on the floor or in committee meetings."


Wilson SHOULD apologize on the floor of the House. Failing that, a vote is completely appropriate.

Don't you think that if you guys do this even the good Republicans will turn in sympathy for the "jerk."
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

Nevermind that Wilson was factually correct and the Dem Congress had voted the "SAVE" provisions off the bill so there was no legal way to determine residency prior to delivering care.

Why are you compounding Wilson dirt bag act with these lies?
 
They might have Rule of Order but hey can speech there mind any bloody time they wish with out worring about being censored over it.

The whole concept of having rules of order is to maintain order. I agree that they shouldn't censure this guy and should probably just let it drop, but having such rules are necessary and in no way unconstitutional.

Scorpion89 said:
Yes Article 1 Section 5 does give Congress power to set there rules but that doesn't mean that they follow them, guess you don't know much about History of Congress thru early 18th up to early 20th Century.

And this has what to do with it being unconstitutional or violating free speech or whatever? You seem to be confusing the occasional breach of decorum with not having any rules of order. :roll:

Scorpion89 said:
As for the Diet you recall these folks the one you see always having fist fights.

I think you're thinking of the Korean National Assembly. But the same thing applies to them: breaches of decorum are not synonymous with lack of rules of order.
 
No it's not...

It will successfully keep people focused on that incident, so they don't focus on what the president actually said about the health care plan.

I mean when have our representatives in Washington ever put the issues above partisan politics?

Yeh, Wilson became the poster child for partisan politics when he expelled that disgusting phrase against the President.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

Why are you compounding Wilson dirt bag act with these lies?
I already explained this to you twice. Either your reading comprehension is lacking, or you know you have been refuted and are just repeating a position you know to be refuted, which is, in essence, lying.
Already explained.

Do you know what the SAVE program is ?

USCIS - SAVE

If there is no legal way to determine residency prior to the delivery of care / benefits, then illegals will get them.

The fact that the bill "claims" they won't, is a lie, because the provision to enforce that claim has been voted out.

No Enforcement Provision = No Denial of Care
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

Nevermind that Wilson was factually correct and the Dem Congress had voted the "SAVE" provisions off the bill so there was no legal way to determine residency prior to delivering care.

NO!! Wilson was the liar on this one factcheck right from the bill " a generic nondiscrimination clause that said insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services."
 
Refuted above for the bajillionth time.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

NO!! Wilson was the liar on this one factcheck right from the bill " a generic nondiscrimination clause that said insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services."

First off what the **** folks don't any of you use proper grammar it's either Mr. Wilson or Rep. Wilson so let try to use the proper titles for our elected officials.

Next Mr. Wilson didn't lie the one who lied was President Obama and he knew he lied answer this question why did the Gang of Six go and remove the two Adm. that Mr. Wilson called the President on.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

He already apologized, a lot better than any of the democrats did during the Bush Administration.

Which Democratic Congressman/Woman or Senator called Bush a liar during a speech to both houses of the congress ? I know that a female congresswomanperson from Georgia had ran her mouth in an inapproprite manner but she did her dirty deeds outside on Congress. So tell us who or forever SYM ?
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxmEGG71PM"]YouTube - Democrats Boo Bush During 2005 SOTU[/ame]
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

I already explained this to you twice. Either your reading comprehension is lacking, or you know you have been refuted and are just repeating a position you know to be refuted, which is, in essence, lying.

My reading comprehension is perfect but one should be vary of yours. "factcheck right from the bill " a generic nondiscrimination clause that said insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services."
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

My reading comprehension is perfect but one should be vary of yours. "factcheck right from the bill " a generic nondiscrimination clause that said insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services."

You repeat this like it means something in this debate. It does not.

As I have tried to pound into your skull . . .

Do you know what the SAVE program is ?

USCIS - SAVE

If there is no legal way to determine residency prior to the delivery of care / benefits, then illegals will get them.

The fact that the bill "claims" they won't, is a lie, because the provision to enforce that claim has been voted out.

No Enforcement Provision = No Denial of Care
 
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Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

Which Democratic Congressman/Woman or Senator called Bush a liar during a speech to both houses of the congress ? I know that a female congresswomanperson from Georgia had ran her mouth in an inapproprite manner but she did her dirty deeds outside on Congress. So tell us who or forever SYM ?

Feb 2 2005 State of the Union Speech Mr. Bush was Boo not once nut many time's by the Democrats from both side of Congress. Hell Ted Kopple even called them out on this right after words on Nightline.

So where was the call for an Apolgie to Mr. Bush and a threat of censor by the House and Senate then. Oh that's right it was the Left so they can do this type of stuff never mind I'm going ot be the only one who is going to say good for them they were with-in there 1st Adm Right to do this.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

You repeat this like it means something in this debate. It does not.

As I have tried to pound into your skull . . .

What you guys who are bent upon waging a parisan nuclear war is that President Obama has no intent or plan to have illegals covered. Illegals get services even today and they got them during the Bush administration why didn't you screem at Bush. Oh, he's from you own party so it's ok !!! I see hypocrit much !!!
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

Feb 2 2005 State of the Union Speech Mr. Bush was Boo not once nut many time's by the Democrats from both side of Congress. Hell Ted Kopple even called them out on this right after words on Nightline.

So where was the call for an Apolgie to Mr. Bush and a threat of censor by the House and Senate then. Oh that's right it was the Left so they can do this type of stuff never mind I'm going ot be the only one who is going to say good for them they were with-in there 1st Adm Right to do this.

What I said was which Democrats called Bush a liar. I did not say anything about boos. Booing is un-nice but it does not sink to the low level that the dispicable Wilson of South CAROLINA sank.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

What you guys who are bent upon waging a parisan nuclear war is that President Obama has no intent or plan to have illegals covered.

His administration and his party voted the SAVE provisions off of the bill so you are simply factually incorrect.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

Don't you think that if you guys do this even the good Republicans will turn in sympathy for the "jerk."

Maybe, but it's not about the politics to me.
 
A complete waste of time and taxpayer money but at least they are not actually doing anything dangerous to us if they focus on this nonissue.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

You repeat this like it means something in this debate. It does not.

As I have tried to pound into your skull . . .

I see that truth is not something that you like in a debate you seem to rather talk unsubstantiated ninsense and hate. So be it.
 
Re: Wilson Faces House Vote House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "has agreed the House s

I already explained this to you twice. Either your reading comprehension is lacking, or you know you have been refuted and are just repeating a position you know to be refuted, which is, in essence, lying.

before you go and run your mouth al la Joe The Buffoon Wilson why don't you read the bill

"Bills bar illegal immigrants from receiving subsidies
The House bill states that those "not lawfully present" may not receive subsidies to purchase insurance. Media Matters for America has debunked the myth that the health care reform bills under consideration would cover undocumented immigrants. From the "Individual Affordability Credits" section of the America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009:

SEC. 242. AFFORDABLE CREDIT ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUAL.

(a) DEFINITION. --

(1) IN GENERAL. -- For purposes of this division, the term ''affordable credit eligible individual'' means, subject to subsection (b), an individual who is lawfully present in a State in the United States (other than as a nonimmigrant described in a subparagraph (excluding subparagraphs (K), (T), (U), and (V)) of section 101(a)(15) of the Immigration and Nationality Act) --"
 
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