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Presidential Address

jallman said:
No they were not and you know better. You are simply trying to vilify those who disagree with you by comparing them to Nazis.

It is shameful and has been reported as yet another personal attack by you.
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No personal attack at all & not aimed at any member in particular. Simply an observation of what these ideas can lead too.
 
Devil505 said:
No personal attack at all & not aimed at any member in particular. Simply an observation of what these ideas can lead too.
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Well how about before we start indulging your Godwin's slope fantasy, we talk about what's actually being proposed?
 
Devil505 said:
You're so flustered you can' even type anymore!:lol::lol:

Go defend your bordes.:2wave:
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you can' type no more neither, foo'
 
well, it's 48 hours after obama's address to the joint session HE summoned, and the dem party STILL does not know:

1. who's gonna write the bill, congress or the white house

2. whether it will have a public option or not

3. whether to do the trigger

4. whether to go co ops

5. how to pay for all this

6. whether 30 million CITIZENS or 47 million AMERICANS are gonna receive extended coverage

7. whether to tax benefits

8. whether to use the nuclear option, reconciliation, in the senate

9. whether we're gonna see tort reform

10. a single republican in the nation who will smudge a red fingerprint on this political pig of an improvised explosive device

11. whether to go with 3200 or start over

12. whether to go left or right

13. how to ensure illegals are excluded

14. what to tell america about what they're doing

15. what exactly to do next, tactics

16. what to do in the long run, strategy

and more

the party has actually gone BACKWARDS

wow

the signals coming out of the house, the senate and 1600 penn in the 2 days since that supreme examplar of incompetence wed nite are OPENLY all over the place

hoyer contradicts pelosi who unsays what gibbs just explained

baucus gives the 6 til 10 am on thursday but they're still working

the white house leaks that next week the prez will push prodigiously for co ops

etc

etc

etc

every hour, the story changes

with each spokesperson, confusion mounts

nice job, mr president

that performance on wednesday was the solely WORST attempt to wrest back a debate i have EVER seen

worse than carter, not even close

unbelievable
 
repeter said:
Punishable by death, decided by a jury of soldiers.
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How about after we treat them and deport them we name them "persona non grata". I'm not sure of the legal ramifications but I don't think they would include firing squad. That would be in their home country.
 
LowRevs said:
How about after we treat them and deport them we name them "persona non grata". I'm not sure of the legal ramifications but I don't think they would include firing squad. That would be in their home country.
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Make illegal immigration a capital offense. God knows it would please enough people for the votes, and that would be an act of deterrence as well.
 
LowRevs said:
Only if it is made a serious criminal offense to reenter the country.
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Say...what a good idea!

If we send them to prison for a long time we U.S. taxpayers get to pay for:

1. Their housing
2. Their Food (3 meal a day)
3. Their clothing
4. Their dental needs
5. Their physical fitness equipment
6. Their total HEALTH CARE


&....They are living..tax free....IN the United States.......... amongst all their relatives!

Hey wait a minute!!!!:doh

(wouldn't it be cheaper to just let them continue to mow Mitt Romney's lawn????)
 
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Devil505 said:
Say...what a good idea!

If we send them to prison for a long time we U.S. taxpayers get to pay for:

1. Their housing
2. Their Food (3 meal a day)
3. Their clothing
4. Their dental needs
5. Their physical fitness equipment
6. Their total HEALTH CARE


&....They are living..tax free....IN the United States.......... amongst all their relatives!

Hey wait a minute!!!!:doh

(wouldn't it be cheaper to just let them continue to mow Mitt Romney's lawn????)
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If they were voting Republican you probably want to have them rounded up and drop them out of a plane over Mexico, but since they tend to vote Democrat, oh it's all okay right?
 
American said:
If they were voting Republican you probably want to have them rounded up and drop them out of a plane over Mexico, but since they tend to vote Democrat, oh it's all okay right?
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I don't like the idea of illegals getting into this country anymore than you do & could care less how they vote. (not that illegals tend to vote much anyway)
BUT...What I won't do is buy into a ridiculous, simple-minded idea that we can seal our borders & prevent illegal immigration from happening.
To me, that's as silly to try to end (through legislation) as Prohibition was to stop alcohol drinking, criminalizing prostitution & the war on drugs is to stop recreational drug use.
Since most people in this country are vastly overweight, why don't we address that problem by making GRAVITY illegal....& then try to enforce that law!
 
Then let's get rid of our border patrol and place "You're invited" signs along the border?
 
American said:
Then let's get rid of our border patrol and place "You're invited" signs along the border?
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Tell you what........If you did both those things...it would not affect illegal border crossings 1%. (& I think you know I'm right)
 
Devil505 said:
Tell you what........If you did both those things...it would not affect illegal border crossings 1%. (& I think you know I'm right)
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It would get worse.
 
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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American said:
It would get worse.
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How??....Would Americans start crossing illegally into Mexico??:lol:

(there are no Mexicans left in Mexico....They're all in LA or on Mitt Romney's property mowing his lawn!!)
 
Devil505 said:
Tell you what........If you did both those things...it would not affect illegal border crossings 1%. (& I think you know I'm right)
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No, you are not correct. Our border patrols do make some impact. The issue is that no one has the stomach to implement major deterrents such as heavy penalties and/or jail time for business owners who hire illegals here, jail time and immediate deportation for repeat offending border hoppers, and possible labor camps along the border doing something productive with them like building immigrations stations along with a wall.

I mean, if they're coming here to work...put them to work.
 
jallman said:
No, you are not correct. Our border patrols do make some impact. The issue is that no one has the stomach to implement major deterrents such as heavy penalties and/or jail time for business owners who hire illegals here, jail time and immediate deportation for repeat offending border hoppers, and possible labor camps along the border doing something productive with them like building immigrations stations along with a wall.

I mean, if they're coming here to work...put them to work.
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Reprint from above that I guess you chose to ignore. It's a bit tongue in cheek but......Mainly true!



Devil505 said:
Say...what a good idea!

If we send them to prison for a long time we U.S. taxpayers get to pay for:

1. Their housing
2. Their Food (3 meal a day)
3. Their clothing
4. Their dental needs
5. Their physical fitness equipment
6. Their total HEALTH CARE


&....They are living..tax free....IN the United States.......... amongst all their relatives!

Hey wait a minute!!!!:doh

(wouldn't it be cheaper to just let them continue to mow Mitt Romney's lawn????)
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Devil505 said:
Reprint from above that I guess you chose to ignore. It's a bit tongue in cheek but......Mainly true!
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I read it. I just didn't think it was all that insightful or worthy of attention because it states the obvious without bothering to go into any meaningful analysis. :shrug:
 
jallman said:
I read it. I just didn't think it was all that insightful or worthy of attention because it states the obvious without bothering to go into any meaningful analysis. :shrug:
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I guess you're right......My points are pretty obvious.

If we send them to prison for a long time we U.S. taxpayers get to pay for:

1. Their housing
2. Their Food (3 meal a day)
3. Their clothing
4. Their dental needs
5. Their physical fitness equipment
6. Their total HEALTH CARE


&....They are living..tax free....IN the United States.......... amongst all their relatives!
 
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