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Obama Fast Losing White Voters' Support

:hitsfan:

Seems like daily someone posts how Obama is "sinking like a rock" in the polls,
and yet everytime I go look he's still right around 53% approval.


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Nate Silver just posted an article on this LA Times headline:


Dep't of Stupid Headlines: L.A. Times Edition
by Nate Silver @ 12:02 PM
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Today, there's an article in the Los Angeles Times entitled:

"Obama is fast losing white voters' support".

A reasonable person might expect the punchline to be either that the manifest decline in Obama's approval ratings is particularly steep among white voters, or that race-related issues are responsible for Obama's current slump. A reasonable person would then click on the chart accompanying the article and discover...

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... that they're much smarter than the people who wrote and edited the article. Obama's approval rating has declined by 10 percent overall since April. It's also declined by 9 points among white independents, 9 points among while college graduates, 11 points among whites non-Democrats, 11 points among White Democrats, and 12 points among white (is there any other kind?) Republicans. In other words, Obama's approval ratings have declined exactly as much, but no more, among white voters as it has among nonwhite voters.

So what in the hell does the decline in Obama's approval rating has to do with race? It doesn't -- or maybe it does, but if so, this article is evidence to the contrary.

The best part of a story like this is that it spawns its own series of sequels:

"Obama is fast losing Hispanic voters' support!".

"Obama is fast losing Inuit-Eskimos' support!".

"Obama is fast losing support among Scots-Irish women named Vanessa in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania!".​

I'm not one to take some schadenfreudic pleasure in the decline of the mainstream media; the Los Angeles Times was once, and sometimes still is, a great paper. But articles like these are approximately as fresh as the latest Garfield comic strip, and have approximately as much news value.

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Dep't of Stupid Headlines: L.A. Times Edition
 
It's my patriotic duty to question my government.

Noooo it is un-American liberal communism Muslim terrorism to be critical of the US government.. it was under Bush, so why not now? You are not telling me that you are a typical right wing hypocrite that I despise?
 
Noooo it is un-American liberal communism Muslim terrorism to be critical of the US government.. it was under Bush, so why not now? You are not telling me that you are a typical right wing hypocrite that I despise?

We just need a one party government over here and then maybe the right wing would be happy
 
The OP actually cited a credible article by a liberal leaning newspaper, so I wouldn't so eagerly discount the thread.
 
Noooo it is un-American liberal communism Muslim terrorism to be critical of the US government.. it was under Bush, so why not now? You are not telling me that you are a typical right wing hypocrite that I despise?

I never made any of those comments and you know it.
 
We just need a one party government over here and then maybe the right wing would be happy

A one party system is the last thing we need. That would be a disaster.
 
First of all, it's the white middle class worker losing his or her job.

Secondly, Foxnews' demographic is white people. And I don't hear MSNBC seriously contempating "outrage" regarding Obama talking to students about staying in school.

Thirdly, he's losing numbers in ALL demographics. He's lost TEN points in approval rating according to Rasmussen since his 100th day.

If he lost 9% of white democrats, that's better than his total numbers. Basically what I am saying, is how does "white" play into any of these numbers.

And why must you keep telling me how high unemployment is. How the hell is that Obama's fault. A lot of people are working that would not have had the opportunity thanks to than stimulus plan you hate so much.

In my own state (WI) $500m has been pumped into our schools to save teachers' jobs. FBO.gov currently shows more than 3,600 recovery jobs currently looking for work.

Insurance groups are cutting jobs as are banks, manufacturers, automakers, and even profitable corporations looking to bank more profit in an opportune time. How is Obama to blame for the economy.

Blame him for the indoctrination of our youth.
Blame him for turning the US into Soviet Russia.
Blame him for being a baby killer.
Blame him for being a Muslim.
Blame him for being a non-citizen.
Blame him for being a crooked Chicago politician.
Blame him for being an "elitist."
Blame him for being soft on terrorists.

Just please DON'T blame him for an economic mess he inherited and is doing his best at fixing. He passed the stimulus. In roughly the same amount of dollars that Bush passed. We didn't see ANY of Bush's stimulus money unless you were on a corporate board.

Obama's economic plan has been passed. The money is being spent. There is nothing you can do about it. Quit whining about it, and help make it work.

You want wasted money? Many of the people I am talking to on this very site are wasting thier bosses money, spending time on here while on the clock. Who the hell can possibly say they are "hard working" Americans who "earn" their money when they have 10k+ posts, most of which are posted 9-5 Mon-Fri.
 
A one party system is the last thing we need. That would be a disaster.

Yeah, we learned that the first six years of the Bush Administration. (Democrats are at fault too, and the Clinton administration as well, so don't even bother)
 
Considering he has nearly all the black and latino vote, then he dont need many whites to win again :) :2wave:

If we are going to break it down according to race, the White vote is still needed in a big way. Blacks and Latinos are a small portion of the country.

Blacks: 13%
Latinos: 15%
Whites: 80%

The overlap is due to the fact that the census does not have a separate category for Latino, only "Non-Hispanic [Whites or African American]", or "Hispanic [Whites or African American]."

United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, Obama is losing ground in all major demographics, including Blacks and Latinos. In the month of August alone, he lost 10 points in Black support (from 86% to 96%), and 10 points in Latino support (from 77% to 67%). He has kept White support relatively well, falling only 4 points (47% to 43%).

Obama Weekly Job Approval by Demographic Groups
 
Gee...I never saw the prof as a racist. Until now.

I guess someone should welcome him to the far-right white pride fold.

But I think they'll find he's more trouble than he's worth.
 
A one party system is the last thing we need. That would be a disaster.

It seems to be what some on the far right latently desire when they are accusing a good portion of the population as being unAmerican un patriotic etc.
 
It seems to be what some on the far right latently desire when they are accusing a good portion of the population as being unAmerican un patriotic etc.

You're right, just like there are some on the far Left that want to see the same thing. Both are wrong.
 
First of all, it's the white middle class worker losing his or her job.

Secondly, Foxnews' demographic is white people. And I don't hear MSNBC seriously contempating "outrage" regarding Obama talking to students about staying in school.

Thirdly, he's losing numbers in ALL demographics. He's lost TEN points in approval rating according to Rasmussen since his 100th day.

If he lost 9% of white democrats, that's better than his total numbers. Basically what I am saying, is how does "white" play into any of these numbers.

And why must you keep telling me how high unemployment is. How the hell is that Obama's fault. A lot of people are working that would not have had the opportunity thanks to than stimulus plan you hate so much.

In my own state (WI) $500m has been pumped into our schools to save teachers' jobs. FBO.gov currently shows more than 3,600 recovery jobs currently looking for work.

Insurance groups are cutting jobs as are banks, manufacturers, automakers, and even profitable corporations looking to bank more profit in an opportune time. How is Obama to blame for the economy.

Blame him for the indoctrination of our youth.
Blame him for turning the US into Soviet Russia.
Blame him for being a baby killer.
Blame him for being a Muslim.
Blame him for being a non-citizen.
Blame him for being a crooked Chicago politician.
Blame him for being an "elitist."
Blame him for being soft on terrorists.

Just please DON'T blame him for an economic mess he inherited and is doing his best at fixing. He passed the stimulus. In roughly the same amount of dollars that Bush passed. We didn't see ANY of Bush's stimulus money unless you were on a corporate board.

Obama's economic plan has been passed. The money is being spent. There is nothing you can do about it. Quit whining about it, and help make it work.

You want wasted money? Many of the people I am talking to on this very site are wasting thier bosses money, spending time on here while on the clock. Who the hell can possibly say they are "hard working" Americans who "earn" their money when they have 10k+ posts, most of which are posted 9-5 Mon-Fri.

They would have demonstrations if the man put the toilet paper role on the holder wrong.... You know, it doesn't fold over the front but rather hangs in the back. They would be like... He's a commie pinko socialist fascist who causes all people who have diarrhea to have diarrhea! Oh yeah, and constipation too! And the medicines for these issues are also government owned and tampered with so don't take them! That would be socialism and and....
 
If we are going to break it down according to race, the White vote is still needed in a big way. Blacks and Latinos are a small portion of the country.

Blacks: 13%
Latinos: 15%
Whites: 80%

The overlap is due to the fact that the census does not have a separate category for Latino, only "Non-Hispanic [Whites or African American]", or "Hispanic [Whites or African American]."

United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, Obama is losing ground in all major demographics, including Blacks and Latinos. In the month of August alone, he lost 10 points in Black support (from 86% to 96%), and 10 points in Latino support (from 77% to 67%). He has kept White support relatively well, falling only 4 points (47% to 43%).

Obama Weekly Job Approval by Demographic Groups

EDIT: "...he lost 10 points in Black support (from 96% to 86%)"
 
EDIT: "...he lost 10 points in Black support (from 96% to 86%)"

You might want to edit this also...

Blacks: 13%
Latinos: 15%
Whites: 80%

= 108% :mrgreen: (or is this extra 8% the illegal alien vote?)
 
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You might want to edit this also...



= 108% :mrgreen: (or is this extra 8% the illegal alien vote?)

I explained that in my original post, #34.

The overlap is due to the fact that the census does not have a separate category for Latino, only "Non-Hispanic [Whites or African American]", or "Hispanic [Whites or African American]."
 
How goes it on prof's first racial thread?

I'm afraid to look at any rhymes he's cooked up for this topic.



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the LA Times is racist

LOLOLOL!

good "thinking," h-nut
 
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