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Republican Congressman Calls on Jones to Resign

PeteEU said:
Sad to know that it is still a crime to be a "communist" in the US, 50+ years after the McCarthy witch hunts. Sad to know that one can not have an opinion about things that are in contradiction with the right in the US... really sad.
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Exactly. I thought this was a free country. Oh well, not in the eyes of some I guess.
 
barack obama is entirely free to commit political suicide, van jones style

but it's tragic
 
formerroadie said:
Exactly. I thought this was a free country. Oh well, not in the eyes of some I guess.
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Being a communist is in fact not a crime in the United States.
 
formerroadie said:
Exactly. I thought this was a free country. Oh well, not in the eyes of some I guess.
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Well, let's think for a moment. This is not an elected position in the government. If Van Jones were running in an election for Director of Green Jobs with his past views and statements, do you think he would win? I doubt it. No way he wins a general election (or even gets more than 5% of the vote) with those radical views. But, because he was a presidential appointment, he was subjected to little oversight and little public knowledge is known about him. Yet, he is still a public servant who took an oath to defend the Constitution and still possesses some influence over the government. I'm not saying all appointments should now be voted for, but it would behoove a president to appoint people who are not radical pinko commies to positions as public servants. I feel very uncomfortable with a commie in that position because communism is directly opposed to republican democracy (as opposed to what Marx foolishly thought). Having a radical black-nationalist communist in this position is the same as Bush appointing a neo-Nazi to said position. It's not right, it's not fair to the majority of the American people who oppose this man's core belief system, and it should be fixed.
 
SicSemperTyrannis said:
Well, let's think for a moment. This is not an elected position in the government. If Van Jones were running in an election for Director of Green Jobs with his past views and statements, do you think he would win? I doubt it. No way he wins a general election (or even gets more than 5% of the vote) with those radical views. But, because he was a presidential appointment, he was subjected to little oversight and little public knowledge is known about him. Yet, he is still a public servant who took an oath to defend the Constitution and still possesses some influence over the government. I'm not saying all appointments should now be voted for, but it would behoove a president to appoint people who are not radical pinko commies to positions as public servants. I feel very uncomfortable with a commie in that position because communism is directly opposed to republican democracy (as opposed to what Marx foolishly thought). Having a radical black-nationalist communist in this position is the same as Bush appointing a neo-Nazi to said position. It's not right, it's not fair to the majority of the American people who oppose this man's core belief system, and it should be fixed.
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He renounced those views before being appointed, so give me a break. The party that is destroying people's lives is the Republican party right now and it's disgusting. God forbid people see facts and actually base opinion on those facts. The uproar and crazed lunacy from the conservatives is beyond anything I have ever seen. It's time to stop.
 
ScottD said:
If someone's current opinions and actions make him the perfect person for a job (Jones dropped his communist stands years ago and has since reformed himself to be a staunch supporter of green business), then past actions should not matter.
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You'd have no problem if a Republican president appointed an ex-Nazi to a position of equal importance? What if that ex-Nazi also claimed that Bill Clinton was involved in 9/11? and then said that Democrats are assholes? and then made racial comments that were iffy at best?

The real story is media bias. If this happened in a Republican administration, does anyone think that there wouldn't have been a **** storm by the media as soon as this guy was appointed?
 
formerroadie said:
He renounced those views before being appointed, so give me a break.


The party that is destroying people's lives is the Republican party right now and it's disgusting. God forbid people see facts and actually base opinion on those facts. The uproar and crazed lunacy from the conservatives is beyond anything I have ever seen. It's time to stop.
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Renouncing them isn't enough. I wouldn't want an ex-Nazi or an ex-communist in such an important position regardless of which party was in the White House. Besides, you're not being factually correct. A couple of these controversies came AFTER he was appointed.

The Republicans didn't put a gun to his head and make him resign. They just reported what he did.
 
You know what they say, though . . .

In DC, no one "quits."
 
Doesn't Pence receive quite a bit in donations from the crazy Blackwater CEO Erik Prince?
 
formerroadie said:
He renounced those views before being appointed, so give me a break. The party that is destroying people's lives is the Republican party right now and it's disgusting. God forbid people see facts and actually base opinion on those facts. The uproar and crazed lunacy from the conservatives is beyond anything I have ever seen. It's time to stop.
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Yup, you're right, the Republicans offer no solutions to modern problems. They just yell and scream and create uproar with reckless abandon. They are certainly no party to be trusted to fix the mess Washington is in. Good thing I'm not a Republican. Both parties are fundamentally flawed, neither side stands for anything but more government and spending (Republicans = military spending, Democrats = domestic spending), and both parties have created, are creating, and will continue to create a massive bureaucratic clusterf*** in Washington. This is not a conservative vs. liberal issue, this is an issue of fixing our government. And there is absolutely no reason why an avowed Marxist fundamentally opposed to Jeffersonian democracy and Lockean theory should be allowed to be part of the solution. We don't need Czars; you can't get much more fundamentally opposed to republican democracy than a Czar. Why not call them Kaisers, or Fuhrers, or Emperors, or some other name that reeks of despotism. Here's an idea, stop being a partisan hack, get your head out of the sand for 2 minutes, LOOK AT THE FACTS, and admit when you're side is wrong. Until then, your opinion can't be taken seriously. :2wave:
 
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SicSemperTyrannis said:
Yup, you're right, the Republicans offer no solutions to modern problems. They just yell and scream and create uproar with reckless abandon. They are certainly no party to be trusted to fix the mess Washington is in. Good thing I'm not a Republican. Both parties are fundamentally flawed, neither side stands for anything but more government and spending (Republicans = military spending, Democrats = domestic spending), and both parties have created, are creating, and will continue to create a massive bureaucratic clusterf*** in Washington. This is not a conservative vs. liberal issue, this is an issue of fixing our government. And there is absolutely no reason why an avowed Marxist fundamentally opposed to Jeffersonian democracy and Lockean theory should be allowed to be part of the solution. We don't need Czars; you can't get much more fundamentally opposed to republican democracy than a Czar. Why not call them Kaisers, or Fuhrers, or Emperors, or some other name that reeks of despotism. Here's an idea, stop being a partisan hack, get your head out of the sand for 2 minutes, LOOK AT THE FACTS, and admit when you're side is wrong. Until then, your opinion can't be taken seriously. :2wave:
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When you take a hard look at the, "solutions", that Dems are presenting, I'll go with no solution at all.
 
Glenn Beck statement on resignation of Van Jones
September 6, 2009 - 18:38 ET

The American people stood up and demanded answers. Instead of providing them, the Administration had Jones resign under cover of darkness. I continue to be amazed by the power of everyday Americans to initiate change in our government through honest questioning, and judging by the other radicals in the administration, I expect that questioning to continue for the foreseeable future.

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Great response!

It's obvious by the fact that Jones resigned late Saturday night, on a holiday weekend, that the Obama administration has no intention of explaining why they ever appointed this man in the first place. They want to sweep this under the rug, and I'm sure that the main stream media will be more than glad to help them do so.

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apdst said:
When you take a hard look at the, "solutions", that Dems are presenting, I'll go with no solution at all.
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That's the problem. The Dems are offering solutions, though horrible and ridiculous as they may be. But what plans have the Republicans offered for fixing the corporate medicene-funded healthcare debacle in this country? None. The problem is that the majority of the people think that the Democrats solutions are the only ones.
 
SicSemperTyrannis said:
That's the problem. The Dems are offering solutions, though horrible and ridiculous as they may be. But what plans have the Republicans offered for fixing the corporate medicene-funded healthcare debacle in this country? None. The problem is that the majority of the people think that the Democrats solutions are the only ones.
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Fortunately, the majority of people think that the Democrats' "solutions" aren't solutions.
 
mpg said:
Fortunately, the majority of people think that the Democrats' "solutions" aren't solutions.
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Touche. I just get worried that because I think the majority in this country do want healthcare reform (and I agree that it's needed), that they'll eventually just jump on the bandwagon of Obama Care because it's the only "solution" out there. I think conservatives need to let their message of free market medicene overshadow the town-hall meetings and protests. I know some are out there, but I think they need to come up with a standard, formulated position that lays out their beliefs and ways to fix the healthcare system. This may have already been done, but if it did it gets minimal press, even on FOX News. I feel like most of the time conservatives have been on the defensive bashing Obama Care and haven't been on the offensive creating an alternative that is more appealing, more feasible, and less expensive. As far as I've heard, only Ron Paul and John McCain have laid out specific ways to fix the healthcare system, and McCain's was ok but I don't think it went far enough. Republicans, in my opinion, need to use this momentum they have created and create some legislation that lowers prices and increases competition in the healthcare field, but does it using the free market and capitalist principles, not more government intervention and regulation.
 
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