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Under Fire, Obama Shifts Strategy

The Prof

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1. The public option is officially dead

2. The White House announces YET ANOTHER new strategy

3. How long will THIS ONE last?

4. Smart odds are betting less than 24 hours

5. This one's called, "compromise health care"

6. Axelrod's the guy doing most the talking

7. Now, he's all into wanting to "synthesize and harmonize"

8. "The president is going to be very active," says the senior adviser

9. LOL!

10. What's he think the CHIN in Chief's been doing the last 6 months?

11. He's preempted every primetime TV show, summoned emergency press conferences, conducted closely choreographed town halls that looked oddly like Michael Jackson's funeral, in conspicuous contrast to what he's put party vets like Ms McCaskill, Mr Cardin and literally 100 others thru

12. "Very active," huh? Does that mean he's actually gonna WRITE his first piece of legislation?

13. Somehow, I kinda doubt it

14. He's not ABLE, which is why he's let Ms Pelosi and her partisan pals in parliament do all the details, from stimulus to cap and trade

15. Because THIS White House possesses not a person physically capable of crafting a bill

16. Obama's taken a lot of crap for ceding too much to Capitol Hill, or, as Axelrod says, for allowing "Congress to consider the whole range of options"

17. "History will judge whether it was right or wrong" to let Waxman/Rangel write the reform, Axelrod ruminates, but "we feel strongly it was right"

18. Then why change strategy?

19. The White House is still debating internally its presentation---should it stick to broad principles (the disastrous approach which has brought us HERE), or should it "send specific legislative language" to Congress?

20. Some "hybrid" is reportedly "likely"

21. LOL!

22. He hasn't learned a thing

23. What happened to the Schumer Strategy, cramming the program thru upper house via reconciliation, bypassing filibuster with 51 ayes?

24. Another fantasy of half a day's duration

25. The White House perceives that the president's popularity has plummeted but paints the plunge as a positive, in that it's produced LOWERED EXPECTATIONS

26. The admin says it looks forward to a showdown with the party's left wing---this would finally be the smart move, the first solid play in months

27. Except President Change-His-Mind can't stay focused on any single approach for more than a day (see point #4 above)

28. The ADHD administration

29. No timetable, says Axelrod---except HURRY! HURRY! is his hark

30. This isn't the fifth inning, he analogizes

31. The recess musta been his seventh inning stretch

32. Apparently, it's bottom of the ninth

33. The prez needs "a break from his August break," says a White House official

34. LOL!

35. The prez is gonna tie his new LATEST strategy to some screwball claim that he's "showing progress in Afghanistan"

36. The president plans to send Congress a report on Afghanistan by Sept 24 designed to inspire confidence after two months of the highest casualties in the Mountains on the Moon since Bush's invasion 8 years ago

37. Health care and Kabul in the same sentence---why???

38. This guy has absolutely no idea how to SELL

39. The left is gonna go livid over his DUMPING their precious option

40. Pelosi proclaimed today---any reform without her public component cannot pass

41. While her Whip, Mr Hoyer, said simultaneously---no tax hike, no deficit increase, or "I won't vote for it"

42. Public option is dead

43. The president is desperate

44. He does not have a CLUE what to do next

45. He makes up all this stupid crap as he limps along, the improvisational presidency

Under Fire, Obama Shifts Strategy | NBC New York

Aides to President Barack Obama are putting the final touches on a new strategy to help Democrats recover from a brutal August recess by specifying the components of a compromise health-care deal, and directly and publicly confronting other trouble spots.

“We’re entering a new season,” senior adviser David Axelrod said in a telephone interview. “It’s time to synthesize and harmonize these strands and get this done. We’re confident that we can do that. But obviously it is a different phase. We’re going to approach it in a different way. The president is going to be very active.”

Top officials privately concede the past six weeks have taken their toll on Obama's popularity. But they also see the new diminished expectations as an opportunity to prove their critics wrong by signing a health care law, showing progress in Afghanistan, and using this month's anniversary of the fall of Lehman Brothers to push for a crackdown on Wall Street.

“We have been saying all along that the most important part of this debate is not the public option, but rather ensuring choice and competition,” an aide said. “There are lots of different ways to get there.”

The timing, format, venue and content of Obama's presentation are still being debated in the West Wing. Aides have discussed whether to stick to broad principles, or to send specific legislative language to Capitol Hill. Some hybrid is likely, the officials said.

“I’m not going to put a date on any of this,” Axelrod said. “But I think it’s fairly obvious that we’re not in the second inning. We’re not in the fourth inning. We’re in the eighth or ninth inning here, and so there’s not a lot of time to waste.”


The Prof
 
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#'s 1, 11, 14, 15, 22, 27, 36, 43, 44, 45 - I disagree

#'s 2, 7, 8, 16, 20, 31 - I agree

#'s 3, 4, 7, 17, 23, 28, 37 - wut?

#'s 9, 21, 34 - one too many lol's
 
#'s 1, 11, 14, 15, 22, 27, 36, 43, 44, 45 - I disagree

#'s 2, 7, 8, 16, 20, 31 - I agree

what're ya tellin me for?

i couldn't care less what you think
 
Yeah, what the hell kind of post was that?
 
what're ya tellin me for?

i couldn't care less what you think

Then why post on this here INTERNET FORUM????:roll:

You do understand the concept, don't you?

And thank you for falling the BN rules--I've trained you well.:2wave:
 
for "falling" the rules?

LOLOLOL!
 
for "falling" the rules?

LOLOLOL!

Pretty sure you know what was meant. In either case they do have a point Prof. If you didn't care why post it on an internet forum? AND could you PLEASE start using paragraphs? Your way of writing just makes me want to close the thread.
 
close it, then, for all i care

the stuff i write is too complex to be put forth any other way

each point IS a paragraph, you silly, a deliciously full, yet concise thought

a teacher of calculus is not interested in the opinions of his students who can't find, for example, a local max

or point of inflection

you understand

take care, cliff
 
close it, then, for all i care

the stuff i write is too complex to be put forth any other way

each point IS a paragraph, you silly, a deliciously full, yet concise thought

a teacher of calculus is not interested in the opinions of his students who can't find, for example, a local max

or point of inflection

you understand

take care, cliff

Unwarranted Self-Importance - Encyclopedia Dramatica
 
Obama is giving up on the only actuary solution that can bring cost down, a government alternative (it need not be manditory) to private insurance.

Every other solution is just government funding the want of private insurance, only if there is a mass public alternative will private insurance actually have to try to provide a good service rather than just turn down claims in an attempt to provide easy returns to their investors.
 
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ironically, right of center, you're the one making ME an issue

all i'm doing is breaking a news story (a BIG one) and explaining its political meanings and signficance

grow up
 
This past month (July) I've gone from "Ok Obama step it up a little bit" to "Come on Obama! F*cking follow through with your policies.

I genuinely thought he was different from many politicians, damn I was wrong. He's just a regular politician.

Man, if I can't trust Obama, I can't trust anyone in gov't now. The GOP is not any better, in fact a lot worse, than Obama.

I voted for him so he can ram bills up the asses of the GOP, like the dead health care plan. I can't believe he killed that thing.

F*ck that I'm voting for Kinky Freidman.
 
Pretty sure you know what was meant. In either case they do have a point Prof. If you didn't care why post it on an internet forum? AND could you PLEASE start using paragraphs? Your way of writing just makes me want to close the thread.
To be fair though, there are some posters here that do nothing but blather on and on with no actual merit, so why care what they think, or, whatever their loose conglomeration of unorganized brain waves(to be more accurate) can produce.?
 
If he changes because the voice of America asks for something else it's weak? If he forces what America doesn't want he's a dictator. Thank you for making the health care debate a serious non partisan issue everyone.
 
your posts are impossibly disorganized.
 
My use of exaggeration is often overdone. I will give you that.

I suppose what I am dictating is the impossibility of Obama getting anything done if he is accused of "flip flopping" when he is simply adjusting to the political discourse of the status quo.
 
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My use of exaggeration is often overdone. I will give you that.

I suppose what I am dictating is the impossibility of Obama getting anything done if he is accused of "flip flopping" when he is simply adjusting to the political discourse of the status quo.

In other words..... flip flopping.

1. To move back and forth between two conditions or circumstances, sometimes repeatedly:

2. To reverse a stand or position:

3. To execute a backward somersault or handspring.

Flip-Flopped - definition of Flip-Flopped by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Sounds like a #1, but he could be taking a #2. :shock:
 
If he changes because the voice of America asks for something else it's weak? If he forces what America doesn't want he's a dictator. Thank you for making the health care debate a serious non partisan issue everyone.

But when he tries to make it seem as though he hasn't changed position at all, which he frequently does, that's simply crass -- and lying. If he acknowledged the change as being a matter of hearing the people speak, then that's different. But he doesn't.
 
close it, then, for all i care

the stuff i write is too complex to be put forth any other way

each point IS a paragraph, you silly, a deliciously full, yet concise thought

a teacher of calculus is not interested in the opinions of his students who can't find, for example, a local max

Prof, I don't know you from jack, but your posts do come off like the deranged ramblings of a mental patient. I'm sure that's not you, but that's how your posts sound.

Your posts are a list of thin, vapid, vaguely related talking points. In fact, 'vaguely' is generous. Most do not connect in any logical or meaningful way. Just a shotgun blast of half-facts and opinions. By number 3 or 4, you usually derail from you original idea and go off into god knows where.

What's even more bizarre is how the articles you post often contradict your concise 'points' or 'thoughts'--it's almost as if you don't fully understand the information in the article. You're reading or hearing something that is just not there.

IMO--you're just taking trolling to a new level. You ditch your own threads as soon as people start calling you out on your inaccurate facts and unsubstantiated opinions. That's called being a troll.
 
close it, then, for all i care

the stuff i write is too complex to be put forth any other way

each point IS a paragraph, you silly, a deliciously full, yet concise thought

a teacher of calculus is not interested in the opinions of his students who can't find, for example, a local max

or point of inflection

you understand

take care, cliff

How much would you want to bet that I could make it more concise and readable and still retain your points?
 
How much would you want to bet that I could make it more concise and readable and still retain your points?

how much would i want to bet?

why would i want to bet?

if you want to take my posts and make them more concise and readable, by all means...

whatever floats your boat
 
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