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S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

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S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students | Recordnet.com

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Bob Tilden and his wife of 25 years, Ruth McMaster, are Democrats.

Their political affiliation, though, has nothing to do with the project they've nursed over the past seven months and are about to launch this week.

The two created a poster with Obama's image and the words, "Dropping out of school ... it's not just quitting on yourself, it's quitting on your country."

They've printed enough 11-by-17-inch copies of the poster to distribute to high school classrooms in the four-largest county districts and are working to raise the final $1,500 to provide larger, 2-by-3-foot posters for common areas in 29 public campuses.

With the poster created, they approached San Joaquin Grassroots Action for support and fundraising help to pay for the cost of printing.

The NorCal District Council of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union paid nearly $600 for the initial printing and Vision Printing kicked in a $200 discount.

Grassroots members approached other potential donors. They also made presentations to local school boards to win approval for placement in the schools.

Does anyone else find this troubling? I don't want a poster of any politician being placed throughout public schools. This is an ad created by democrats and funded by liberal advocacy groups that is being given free space in public schools. Ridiculous.


Also, this is a bit concerning:

Their goal is to have the posters distributed and up by Sept. 8 when the president will deliver a national internet address to students across the country stressing the importance of their education.

"The timing is good right now," Tilden said. "It's a perfect storm of events for us."

Schools recently opened, Obama has the planned address - the first ever by an American president directly to students

I'm not sure what this means as I can't find much information on this topic anywhere else, but what the **** is a "national address to students?" It better not be something that teachers are making kids watch during the school day.

As an aside, these idiots in this article are the most stereotypical pseudo-intellectual dbags imaginable.

Alone the night Obama made his first address to Congress on Feb. 24, Tilden couldn't wait for McMaster to return from a class so he could replay the moment Obama said, "And dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It's not just quitting on yourself, it's quitting on your country - and this country needs and values the talents of every American."

McMaster, who spent 16 years teaching in elementary classrooms in the Lodi Unified and is in her third year as a district instructional coach, got chills just as her husband had hours earlier.

"I was surprised," McMaster said. "We've never really had a president that valued education."

You got chills? Really? Get ****ed. And yea, Obama's the first one to value education - it's not like we had a university president with a PhD in office before. :doh

Basically, this is an all-around crock of ****.
 
Does anyone else find this troubling? I don't want a poster of any politician being placed throughout public schools. This is an ad created by democrats and funded by liberal advocacy groups that is being given free space in public schools. Ridiculous.

Related: today I went to the bookstore to get a required reading book. They had apparently already contacted the schools as all of the required reading books were stacked on a couple of tables. I look through it and happen to come across The Audacity of Hope.

Now I ask you, if Bush had written a book, would teachers have made it required reading?
 
I see political quotes from Politicians from both sides in High Schools all the time, I see no real reason for it to be an issue. There is nothing political about the quote either, even though if they replaced Obama's head with a book of diploma, it would be better.
 
I see political quotes from Politicians from both sides in High Schools all the time, I see no real reason for it to be an issue. There is nothing political about the quote either, even though if they replaced Obama's head with a book of diploma, it would be better.

The only quotes I ever saw were from politicians who had long been out of office.

Even if it were okay on that front, there's a difference between posting a quote and posting a gigantic poster with a picture of a current politician's face that was paid for by a political advocacy committee.
 
You obviously don't have Young Republicans at whatever school you went to. When I went to school, they painted the walls with pictures of Bush and his quotes.

I think that maybe any Young Democrat clubs in the schools should be the ones to post the signs, not the school district.
 
Does anyone else find this troubling?

No, I don't. He's the president. Historically, it's been customary to hang the president's picture on the wall in a classroom. Is that troubling too?

I don't want a poster of any politician being placed throughout public schools. This is an ad created by democrats and funded by liberal advocacy groups that is being given free space in public schools. Ridiculous.

What is ridiculous about hanging a poster in a school hallway that discourages children from dropping out of school and ruining their lives?
 
You obviously don't have Young Republicans at whatever school you went to. When I went to school, they painted the walls with pictures of Bush and his quotes.

I think that maybe any Young Democrat clubs in the schools should be the ones to post the signs, not the school district.

My school had a policy that prohibited overtly political things and limited those groups to posting on one particular billboard. That seems eminently reasonable to me, otherwise you get what you're describing.
 
I don't see a problem with this. The presidency has a certain amount of power to it, and using it for a positive message for school students I don't see a problem with. It's using the presidency for what I see as a nonpartisan positive use.
 
No, I don't. He's the president. Historically, it's been customary to hang the president's picture on the wall in a classroom. Is that troubling too?

Customary where? I've never heard of such a thing. Furthermore, don't you see a difference between a picture of the president being posted regardless of party and a campaign ad being posted for a favored official?

What is ridiculous about hanging a poster in a school hallway that discourages children from dropping out of school and ruining their lives?

If that was the only goal, they could do that without being so overtly political. Look at the ****ing thing - how is that not a campaign poster? It's all in blue to symbolize the democrats, it's got a stylized Obama face reminiscent of the campaign posters, it's even got the name of the goddamn political advocacy group that paid for it on the bottom.

The guy knows exactly what he's doing - he advertises campaign activism training seminars on his blog. He's using willing school boards to take his campaigning right into public schools.
 
I don't see a problem with this. The presidency has a certain amount of power to it, and using it for a positive message for school students I don't see a problem with. It's using the presidency for what I see as a nonpartisan positive use.

Again, if this was trying to be "non-partisan," it wouldn't look like that and it wouldn't be funded by liberal political advocacy committees.

I just don't see how you can look at this poster and not conclude that it's partisan.
 
Again, if this was trying to be "non-partisan," it wouldn't look like that and it wouldn't be funded by liberal political advocacy committees.

I just don't see how you can look at this poster and not conclude that it's partisan.
It's not partisan, it's pro-government. Which is dangerous in compulsory public schools that are...well...funded by the government.
 
President's National Address to Students

President Obama?s Address to Students Across America September 8, 2009


I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I'm glad the president is encouraging our youth. On the other hand, this man is divisive and sneaky. My kid's school is already strongly pro-democrat. If he keeps politics out of it, I'll be happy. If he doesn't, he'll have SUC to deal with. :cool:
 
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Now I ask you, if Bush had written a book, would teachers have made it required reading?

Not in my kid's school. For the first time in history, the students were required to watch the inauguration.
 
Customary where?

The United States of America

I've never heard of such a thing
.

Well, obviously it doesn't happen then...

Furthermore, don't you see a difference between a picture of the president being posted regardless of party and a campaign ad being posted for a favored official?

Of course I see a difference, but I don't see how that's relevant to this discussion.

If that was the only goal, they could do that without being so overtly political. Look at the ****ing thing - how is that not a campaign poster?

I don't know. Maybe because it's not?

It's all in blue to symbolize the democrats
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It also has the American flag. Is that a conspiracy too?

It's got a stylized Obama face reminiscent of the campaign posters,

Or maybe it's just to make it look cool.

it's even got the name of the goddamn political advocacy group that paid for it on the bottom.

Yes, well you can thank John McCain for that.

He's using willing school boards to take his campaigning right into public schools.

Kids can't vote.

I don't even like Obama. I think he's a lying sack of **** Marxist, but all I see here is you allowing partisanship to manipulate your perspective of the poster.
 
Again, if this was trying to be "non-partisan," it wouldn't look like that and it wouldn't be funded by liberal political advocacy committees.

I just don't see how you can look at this poster and not conclude that it's partisan.

I don't see it as partisan in that I would not see the difference if it was a republican president.
 
To all of you who are saying this is non-partisan: Imagine this poster, minus the website and the McCain 08 tag, and saying "There is no higher calling than serving your country" instead of the peace/wisdom line.

2008-07-23-01_large.jpg


Now imagine that a conservative political advocacy group prints up thousands of these posters and wants to put them all over public schools.

How many of you would support that?
 
To all of you who are saying this is non-partisan: Imagine this poster, minus the website and the McCain 08 tag, and saying "There is no higher calling than serving your country" instead of the peace/wisdom line.

2008-07-23-01_large.jpg


Now imagine that a conservative political advocacy group prints up thousands of these posters and wants to put them all over public schools.

How many of you would support that?

I'm glad you posted that. When I first heard about this, my knee-jerk reaction was WTF?! But then I thought if Bush had done this would I be as annoyed? That's why I decided to wait and see rather than suddenly have the boy have a dentist appt.

Seeing your example made me feel the same way. I would not like any political scum bag (and they all are) addressing my kid.
 
To all of you who are saying this is non-partisan: Imagine this poster, minus the website and the McCain 08 tag, and saying "There is no higher calling than serving your country" instead of the peace/wisdom line.

Now imagine that a conservative political advocacy group prints up thousands of these posters and wants to put them all over public schools.

How many of you would support that?

Does the Obama poster say Obama 2012??? Does it say Organizing for America | BarackObama.com Those two posters are night and day. What the hell is the matter with you?
 
To all of you who are saying this is non-partisan: Imagine this poster, minus the website and the McCain 08 tag, and saying "There is no higher calling than serving your country" instead of the peace/wisdom line.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-07-23-01_large.jpg

Now imagine that a conservative political advocacy group prints up thousands of these posters and wants to put them all over public schools.

How many of you would support that?

If McCain was president, I cannot see myself having a problem with it, especially since I strongly agree with the sentiment, and cannot think of many better to express it.
 
The United States of America

Well, obviously it doesn't happen then...

Gee, thanks for that helpful clarification. My point is that I've never heard of such a practice, so I was wondering if this was some practice that occurred in only your area or back when you went to school.

A cursory google search indicates that this is by no means common, if it even happens anymore. In fact, the folks over at DemocraticUnderground discussed this exact topic:

The President's Picture in Every Classroom - Democratic Underground

They don't seem to keen on it, nor does it seem like it's common at all.

Of course I see a difference, but I don't see how that's relevant to this discussion.

I don't know. Maybe because it's not?

It also has the American flag. Is that a conspiracy too?

Or maybe it's just to make it look cool.

Yes, well you can thank John McCain for that.

Again, you're free to see what you like. That looks blatantly partisan to me, as it would were it McCain's face up there and the ad was tinted in red.

Kids can't vote.

Brilliant point, that obviously proves that there is nothing to gain from pushing a viewpoint on them.

I don't even like Obama. I think he's a lying sack of **** Marxist, but all I see here is you allowing partisanship to manipulate your perspective of the poster.

I think such a thing is ridiculous regardless of who the candidate is.
 
President's picture in every classroom?? They're not even required to have the American flag!
 
Let me say that I do not think that these posters will change the mind of any kids who want to drop out since the vast majority probably can't read anyway.

What is bothering your booppie ? Is it the message that dropping out of school is bad that you hate ? Or is it that President Obama's message is on the poster that you hate ? Or is it that the image of President Obama is on the poster ? Or is it that the a good message is being attributed to President Obama? Would you be happier if the message was "drop out now avoid the june rush " Barack.

I won't ask if the problem you have with the poster is racial because no one stoop that low, right ? Well maybe Strom Thurman would have but he's dead.
 
If McCain was president, I cannot see myself having a problem with it, especially since I strongly agree with the sentiment, and cannot think of many better to express it.

Then I'd see nothing wrong with it.

And I would strongly oppose it in such a case. To me, at least, such an ad would seem unnecessarily partisan and downright improper for placement in a public school.

Let me say that I do not think that these posters will change the mind of any kids who want to drop out since the vast majority probably can't read anyway.

What is bothering your booppie ? Is it the message that dropping out of school is bad that you hate ? Or is it that President Obama's message is on the poster that you hate ? Or is it that the image of President Obama is on the poster ? Or is it that the a good message is being attributed to President Obama? Would you be happier if the message was "drop out now avoid the june rush " Barack.

I won't ask if the problem you have with the poster is racial because no one stoop that low, right ? Well maybe Strom Thurman would have but he's dead.

Yea bro, you got me. I'm pissed that they dared to put a black man on a poster. :roll:

Serious q: did you read the OP or any other posts in the thread? My problem with it was explained pretty clearly.
 
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