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Obama's approval rating at 45%

formerroadie said:
And another conservative sites Rasmussen. Why am I not surprised.
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Because Rasmussan has been the most accurate throughout 4 elections. Oh, and by the way, goodluck trying to say Rasmussen has conservative bias when they endorse the left-wing.

eat it.
 
disneydude said:
The problem is....what GOP candidate is a classic fiscal conservative in the vein of Goldwater? There isn't one....because "Conservatism" to the GOP has become synonomous with little more than anti-abortion/anti-gay evangelical social agenda.

The closest there is to a fiscal conservative in the GOP is Romney.
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be nice if we could get both. ^_^

Romney? pfft, he installed national healthcare in Mass. Yea, I'm sure you would LOOOOVE to have another democrat in the WH. :roll:
 
disneydude said:
The problem is....what GOP candidate is a classic fiscal conservative in the vein of Goldwater? There isn't one....because "Conservatism" to the GOP has become synonomous with little more than anti-abortion/anti-gay evangelical social agenda.

The closest there is to a fiscal conservative in the GOP is Romney.
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That's the main reason why I left the party
 
Truth Detector said:
I understand how you feel; but you, in effect, helped to elect Obama by so doing. I hope you are still okay with that.

:2wave:
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Garbage. I live in a solid Red state. My vote changed nothing one way or the other. It certainly did not 'help elect' Obama. The electoral votes from my state went to his opponent. So no, I had zero role in electing Obama.

And yes... I'm perfectly okay with my vote.

:2wave:
 
theangryamerican said:
What policies were those? He consistently changes his stance, still has no idea what he stands for and has broken quite a few of his campaign promises already...
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I admit he's been too spineless and caves to Republicans too often, but he advocated as a candidate a drawdown from Iraq, reforming health care, a stimulus package, a more diplomatic foreign policy, etc. He had policies, and many people agreed with them.

75Greeno said:
people elected him because they are stupid the media played him up and he can talk well it is just like bill clinton and jimmy carter and look how well those idiots turned out:lol:
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This is one of my biggest pet peeves in politics. When their side loses, they blame the voters. If you have that much scorn for the American People, get the **** out of here. The American People are smarter than people like you give them credit for, and if you have that much contempt, you have no place trying to help choose their leader.

Erod said:
So, beside your president standing in quick sand, you want to brag about Pelosi, Reid, Biden, and who exactly?

That's your inherent problem. Liberals elect politicians like they select American Idol winners. Conservatives elect politicians based on principles, which never waver even with their chosen politicians do.
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If Conservatives elect their politicians based on principles, how did you end up with Bush Jr and McCain as your most recent candidates?

And I disagree, Liberals do elect politicians based on principles too, we just have different principles.
 
Here's a great statistic.

At this rate, trends indicate in 3 1/2 years his approval rating will be at 0%. Start telling everyone that Obama is guaranteed not to get reelected because he will have 0% of the vote.

It's also important to note that people NEVER change thier minds when presented facts and results (ie Iraq, wiretapping, enhanced interrogation.)
 
disneydude said:
Off topic.....this isn't about congress.
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How do you assume this isn't about the topic, since the ratings of a one party majority in the legislative and executive tend to tie into each other currently, also since the president is trying to sell congressional bills to the american voting public and vice versa, considering the congress is in rubber stamp nirvana right now, and also considering that idiot in the white house will essentially be a first term lame duck if enough (D) seats turn over in the congress.
 
apdst said:
Even Zogby has PBO's approval rating at 42%. Ya can't call John Zogby a Right Wing crazy.

Zogby International
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what do you mean 'even'?
Zogby is *the worst* pollster out there, just about (particularly if it's an 'interactive' one).

Fivethirtyeight.com has some great articles from time to time re: reliability of various pollsters.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Zogby's polls are not even used by major outlets anymore because they have been so inaccurate the last couple of years. He uses only published numbers for his telephone polls and self selected participants for his online polls.

I think its ridiculous for either side to pick and choose the polls they want. Why not just go to Real Clear Politics and look at the rolling average between all of them.
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Or Pollster.com.
 
apdst said:
I bet when Ramussen, Gallop and Zogby were putting GB at 28%, the Libbos were hailing those numbers as the most accurate in history. Now, when things are going against their boy, it's all BS.
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You would lose your nickels on that bet.

But, ps, I watch the gallup polls.
 
Truth Detector said:
Isn't it fascinating watching the irony of Liberal talking points about Bush smack them back?

Here's another interesting fact, Obama's represents the third largest drop of approval from any President including Bush, since I believe before WWII.

What does this all mean? Americans are temporarily returning to reality and recovering their sanity perhaps?

:2wave:
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I think it's the second, except for Clinton.
It has just underlined basic conservative intolerance, for me.

The left is more willing to support presidents from the right, than the right is willing to support presidents from the left.

The right is not very tolerant.
AND, they don't like not getting their own way.

*shrug*
 
the makeout hobo said:
People elected him because the majority agreed with his policies.
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*thumbs up*

AND ... he got elected by the largest margin for a first term pres in decades!
Kind of a wipeout, actually.
 
Obama job approval 55% today on Gallup.

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval


Rasmussen looks like even more of an outlier today.
Gallup - 55%
CNN - 53%
CBS - 56%
Ipsos/McClatchy - 56%
Pew - 52%


.... Rasmussen - not even in the ballpark :lol:
 
Wow, now maybe it's because I have been busy at 6pm for the past week (that's when The News Hour With Jim Lerher is on), but I have no idea what is causing the sudden rise in Obama's polls. Are people actually starting to look at the facts instead of anti-Obama scare tactics?

Also, I would like to know how Rasmussen determines whether someone is likely to vote or not. Do they include people under 18 who are politically active and can vote in 2010/1012?
 
ScottD said:
Wow, now maybe it's because I have been busy at 6pm for the past week (that's when The News Hour With Jim Lerher is on), but I have no idea what is causing the sudden rise in Obama's polls. Are people actually starting to look at the facts instead of anti-Obama scare tactics?

Also, I would like to know how Rasmussen determines whether someone is likely to vote or not. Do they include people under 18 who are politically active and can vote in 2010/1012?
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In what alternate universe are you seeing a rise?

obama_approval_index_september_3_2009.jpg


Looks pretty ****ty to me
 
I live in the Universe of truth, where we look at polls that don't select their own polling groups to make Obama look worse.

I was looking at Gallup, which had him at 5 more points then about a week ago.
 
ScottD said:
I live in the Universe of truth, where we look at polls that don't select their own polling groups to make Obama look worse.
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WOW, if you mean the universe of putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and going "LALALALALALALA I Can't Hear You,LALALALALALALALALA" Then I might agree with your statement. Okay, let's take it from the top, Zogby, Ipsos, and Rasmussen all have Barack Obama at 45% as of this period of time, they had him at 85% approval at the beginning of his presidency less than a year ago, this is the FASTEST drop in approval ratings since political polling began. Even CBS, NBC, CNN, CNBC, and all other friendly polls are showing decreases in popularity and these are weighted more heavily towards his voting block.

I was looking at Gallup, which had him at 5 more points then about a week ago.
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Their 52 week high was 69%, now it is 55% and you call that an increase? Oh, btw, look at the new demographic numbers, from your own site:
Obama Weekly Job Approval by Demographic Groups
I'd suggest you actually read the data, you would see he is losing every single demographic.
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