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Obama's approval rating at 45%

Grateful Heart said:
True. Last year was the first election in which I wrote in a candidate. I held my nose and voted before. Never again.

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I understand how you feel; but you, in effect, helped to elect Obama by so doing. I hope you are still okay with that.

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PBO's going to need a 9/11 to ever see an accent in his poll numbers.
disneydude said:
Like GWB? Funny how the public perception rewards incompetence.
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How amusing that you continue to illustrate such ignorance regarding the facts. Bush didn't need 9-11 to have a high opinion rating, it was already high.

But not to worry, the caterwauling and insults from the Liberal Left and media began a few short months after 9-11 and eventually, after Bush made the POPULAR and highly Bipartisan decision to go into Iraq to enforce the UN resolutions Saddam defied for over a decade, the media finally achieved their desire to drag Bush's poll numbers down and the American people eventually proved Osama's rhetoric correct; that he would win the battle of public opinion because Americans have the collective memory of a lemming (my words) and lack the stomach for a protracted war.

I am amazed when people like you so desperately want to prove the likes of Osama right every day if for only purely hyper partisan purposes.
 
75Greeno said:
it will be that low at this rate but don't assume that palin is what we all want she is just better than obama that doesn't make her presidential:roll:
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Ok....this post deserves a big :doh

C'mon Greeno....Palin is about all you guys have....or do you wanna nominate Huckabee? :2funny:
 
Truth Detector said:
Quote:Originally Posted by apdst

PBO's going to need a 9/11 to ever see an accent in his poll numbers.


How amusing that you continue to illustrate such ignorance regarding the facts. Bush didn't need 9-11 to have a high opinion rating, it was already high.

But not to worry, the caterwauling and insults from the Liberal Left and media began a few short months after 9-11 and eventually, after Bush made the POPULAR and highly Bipartisan decision to go into Iraq to enforce the UN resolutions Saddam defied for over a decade, the media finally achieved their desire to drag Bush's poll numbers down and the American people eventually proved Osama's rhetoric correct; that he would win the battle of public opinion because Americans have the collective memory of a lemming (my words) and lack the stomach for a protracted war.

I am amazed when people like you so desperately want to prove the likes of Osama right every day if for only purely hyper partisan purposes.
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That's right...be a good Bushie and keep trying to make that 911/Osama/Iraq connection.

You might want to check your facts though....Bush's ratings were not high prior to 911.
 
Truth Detector said:
Yet even GWB, who some was hated by the Left, did as good or better in the polls than Obama at this stage of the game.

GWB first 100 days = 62%

Obama = 63%
Gallup poll: Obama approval at 63% - First Read - msnbc.com

In fact, all but Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter had higher approval ratings about 100 days after taking office. That is why the early months of new presidencies are commonly known as "the honeymoon period."

What History Foretells for Obama?s First Job Approval Rating

Obama's HIGHEST approval ratings place him in 10 place against the last 12 US Presidents beating only Nixon and Reagan. I don't see how anyone can spin this any other way than he is heading down faster than almost all the previous 11 Presidents.

Once Tax payers get the BILL for the Democrat largess and once they see the economy is getting worse not better, it is likely he will serve as another one term President and have disastrous consequences for the Democrat Party which will last only as long as the Republicans avoid being as stupid as they were from 2004 to 2006.

United States presidential approval rating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Dude...your links and numbers don't support your arguments and contentions. You may want to read a little more carefully.
 
disneydude said:
C'mon Greeno....Palin is about all you guys have....or do you wanna nominate Huckabee? :2funny:
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So, beside your president standing in quick sand, you want to brag about Pelosi, Reid, Biden, and who exactly?

That's your inherent problem. Liberals elect politicians like they select American Idol winners. Conservatives elect politicians based on principles, which never waver even with their chosen politicians do.
 
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The only polls I trust are:

Gallup

North Pole (Santa Clause...my daughter still believes :) )

And that stripper pole at the gentleman's club where Barbie loves to do her one-legged wrapped spiral. :thumbs:
 
Glinda said:
Which hype, exactly, stated (or even implied) that "The government is going to fix all your problems?" Do you have links?
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Some apparently believed it:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI"]YouTube - Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!![/ame]

You'll also note that the news media didn't immediately rush to print stories about how this person represents all dems, how wrong she is, how crazy these people are, etc.
 
Glinda said:
I'm just curious, when did you tell us so?

And what exactly did you tell us; that Obama's approval rating would drop below its election-night high?

Is this actually breaking news? Because it seems to me that simple logic would dictate that the President's approval rating would fluctuate throughout the course of his term. Sometimes it goes down; sometimes it goes up; sometimes it just sits and hovers somewhere for awhile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Did someone insist to you that it was going to stay at 65% (or whatever it was) for all time and eternity?
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It seems to be fluctuating in a steady downward direction... but we all know this is a statistical fluke.... he is the smartest President ever!!!!!
 
winston53660 said:
Reagan traded arms with terrorists Carter stood up to them.
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Carter.... he stood up to the terrorists for 444 days.... yippy!!!

Reagan.... he defeated the USSR, brought the Wall down, freed Eastern Europe... Oh, and brought the hostages home after Carter standing up to the terrorists... did I mention the 444 days?
 
Erod said:
So, beside your president standing in quick sand, you want to brag about Pelosi, Reid, Biden, and who exactly?

That's your inherent problem. Liberals elect politicians like they select American Idol winners. Conservatives elect politicians based on principles, which never waver even with their chosen politicians do.
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Right....that's how we ended up with H.W. and G.W.....thanks but .....no thanks!

BTW....I wouldn't vote for Pelosi or Reid for President....unless of course the choice was them or Palin/Huckabee.
 
disneydude said:
Ok....this post deserves a big :doh

C'mon Greeno....Palin is about all you guys have....or do you wanna nominate Huckabee? :2funny:
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Seven months in and Obama's decline is almost ballistic, and the Dem congress has the lowest approval rating in history.

I expect that all the Republican need do is nominate an actual republican (an Anti-McCain, if you will,) who is not Barak Obama, and they'll be in.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Zogby's polls are not even used by major outlets anymore because they have been so inaccurate the last couple of years. He uses only published numbers for his telephone polls and self selected participants for his online polls.

I think its ridiculous for either side to pick and choose the polls they want. Why not just go to Real Clear Politics and look at the rolling average between all of them.
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Why would anyone assume that an average is valid?
 
disneydude said:
That's right...be a good Bushie and keep trying to make that 911/Osama/Iraq connection.

You might want to check your facts though....Bush's ratings were not high prior to 911.
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You may want to actually deal in facts instead of your constant hyperbolic highly partisan rhetoric.

The facts have been posted right in this thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/55499-obamas-approval-rating-45-a-5.html#post1058228649

As for being a "good Bushie;" how typical for someone like you to engage in hyperbolic blather in a vacuum of anything that could be remotely construed as a fact or reality.

Carry on; there’s nothing more amusing than watching Liberals like you twist and spin in your desperate efforts to avoid facts and reality.
 
disneydude said:
Dude...your links and numbers don't support your arguments and contentions. You may want to read a little more carefully.
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Really, because rather than you just saying it is so, why don't you get more specific and show the fallacy of my data and arguments?

But alas, that would require some honesty and effort; I am not sure you are capable of that. :rofl
 
1. rasmussen, creator of espn, is rated #1 pollster in the nation, he pegged 04, 06 and 08

http://www.fordham.edu/images/acade...ccuracy in the 2008 presidential election.pdf

2. it's mostly cuz he questions likely voters, not just registered folks or all adults, like his competition

3. he also uses automated polling with a pre-recorded voice, as opposed to more traditonal phone-banking methodologies

4. either way, RCP's poll of polls is devastating to the white house

5. only 52% positive is poison

6. and conventional wisdom for a lifetime has said that negatives exceeding 40% are doom

7. the truth is worse, cuz those most animated against the president are our seniors

8. seniors run this country, they have all the money, they always vote, they know exactly what's going on...

9. also, their powerful antipathies against this president are NEVER gonna change

10. they PERCEIVED the idiot as telling them to SHUT UP when they expressed genuine and generally very well informed concerns about his horribly vague health care reform

11. they BELIEVE he asked their neighbors to RAT THEM OUT for expressing "fishy" worries

12. that is, they were LEANING opposed until points 10 and 11 went down

13. obama will NEVER get them back

14. his numbers have been shrinking in EVERY poll since

15. the polls are very meaningful cuz bluedogs, for example, congressional freshmen, others, must heed them before sticking their necks out for obamacare, cap and trade, etc

16. double digit drops in every poll shouldn't be pooh pooh'd, politics is a MOMENTUM business

17. health care is dead

18. so is this entire presidency

sorry
 
Oftencold said:
At the rate he's going, the reanimated corpse of Richard Nixon would have a very good shot in 2012.
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If they can get some dna they can just make a fresh one.

cloned animals


I wonder if he would still want to keep tapes this time....


The lower numbers are only due to people recognizing what is...is...
There are still plenty of people flying around neverneverland to promote dear leader.
 
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Oftencold said:
Seven months in and Obama's decline is almost ballistic, and the Dem congress has the lowest approval rating in history.

I expect that all the Republican need do is nominate an actual republican (an Anti-McCain, if you will,) who is not Barak Obama, and they'll be in.
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Yes....that's right. The GOP nominee should definitely be someone from the far right. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 
Truth Detector said:
Really, because rather than you just saying it is so, why don't you get more specific and show the fallacy of my data and arguments?

But alas, that would require some honesty and effort; I am not sure you are capable of that. :rofl
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Look at your link and your numbers. They don't correspond with your argument. Clue: The numbers you cite are actually completely opposite of what your attempted to argue. Go back and look at the numbers yourself and you will see.
 
I'd like to see a fiscal conservative, might actually vote for them
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
I'd like to see a fiscal conservative, might actually vote for them
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The problem is....what GOP candidate is a classic fiscal conservative in the vein of Goldwater? There isn't one....because "Conservatism" to the GOP has become synonomous with little more than anti-abortion/anti-gay evangelical social agenda.

The closest there is to a fiscal conservative in the GOP is Romney.
 
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