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Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

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1. Every time Holder/Obama bring up the CIA, which is about once a month, periodically, Dick the Darth comes back out of his cave to kick a little more Rushmore butt

2. This weekend he's going on FNS (Gibbs should never have declared war on the cable giant) to denigrate the deleterious POLITICAL motives of this crass administration in seeking to PROSECUTE those the rest of the nation, far less partisan than this petty minded president, are more inclined to THANK

3. In other words, CHENEY WANTS THIS, he's been trying to get these documents before the public since he left office

4. BRING IT ON!

5. Because, bottom line, when it comes to NATIONAL SECURITY, whatever the last White House did WORKED

6. Not a single large scale act of terror, not even a little bombing of a Straw Hat pizza parlor

7. And there's no DEBATE about that

8. Which, considering the WILL of our wild-eyed enemies, as well as the relative ease with which those who would KILL can cravenly attack, any time, anywhere, compared to the far more demanding job of PROTECTING every American every day, is really rather miraculously impressive

9. According to the VERY DOCUMENTS Holder intends to use to make his ridiculous charges, the techniques employed by the Bush administration were across the board effective

10. The controversy, reserved only to the purely partisan, is that our methods were too extreme

11. And the instances this tiny, tinny team of tattlers point to as the WORST examples of abuse are---THREATS never acted upon, POWER TOOLS never employed, the BLOWING of second hand cigarette smoke...

12. LOLOL!

13. I mean, POLITICALLY---LOL!

14. Carville's consummately correct---totally "terrible politics"

15. ALL these charges have ALREADY been investigated by Virginia prosectuors, most of them more than once

16. NONE active were found to warrant action

17. AMERICA herself has been down this dusty old road ad tedium

18. More and more, this silly sally by Holder/Obama can be seen as a sop to the sullen LEFT which is still all pissy about the loss of its precious public option

19. The president tries to forestall revolt with this half-step measure, leaning only on Langley's lowest

20. Which, that's not gonna work either

21. When health care is canned in Pelosi's Place in the Autumn, except all hell to come howling

22. Now that the White House has acted, it wont want to discuss this question anymore

23. Cheney and HIS friends, in contrast, are gonna be talking non stop about THIS special prosecutor, people like The profoundly experienced Prof will put up POINTS

24. Because this issue for Obama is a LOSER

25. Cheney claims Enhanced Interrogation prevented attacks

26. It's also known that the waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah led to the arrest of Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, mastermind of 9-11

27. Normal Americans outside this really weird White House have no sympathy for Al Qaeda leadership

28. The most INCOMPETENT politician at the national level America has ever seen gets his skinny ass spanked over his signature health care, so changes the subject to another LOSER just as large

Cheney: Obama Team Should Be Debriefing CIA Interrogators, Not Investigating Them - Political News - FOXNews.com

Former Vice President Dick Cheney on Friday said the Obama administration should be debriefing CIA interrogators about keeping the country safe rather than trying to punish them for doing their jobs.

In an exclusive interview taped to air this weekend on "FOX News Sunday," Cheney called the Justice Department probe of interrogators an "outrageous political act" that will do long-term damage to the United States' capacity to protect the country.

"We had a track record now of eight years of defending the nation against any further mass casualty attacks from al Qaeda. The approach of the Obama administration should be to come to those people who were involved in that policy and say, 'How did you do it? What were the keys to keeping this country safe over that period of time?'" Cheney said.

"Instead, they're out there now threatening to disbar the lawyers who gave us the legal opinions -- threatening contrary to what the president originally said. They're going to go out and investigate the CIA personnel who carried out those investigations," Cheney added.

Last week, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said he was appointing a special prosecutor to look at data obtained about enhanced interrogation techniques to determine whether criminal acts were committed. The data are the same previously reviewed by career prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia, where the CIA is headquartered. The data led to one arrest and conviction.

The former vice president for months has demanded the CIA release materials to show the effectiveness of harsh tactics in enabling interrogators to get information used to thwart planned attacks.

This week, the CIA's inspector general released a declassified report on the use of enhanced interrogation tactics. The report said that CIA agents got valuable information but critics insist the results did not justify the methods.

Watch the entire interview with former Vice President Dick Cheney on "FOX News Sunday," airing at 2 p.m. and 6 p.m. ET on FOX News Channel. Check local listings for "FOX News Sunday" airing on FOX networks.


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It will be pretty obvious in the coming days that one side of this is purely political and one side of this is purely about the security of this country. Dick Cheney is a patriot of the highest order.

This administration doesn't have a clue who lives in this country. It has become apparent that they hold the people of this country in contempt. This political maneuver, like all the others they have tried, will backfire on them and erode the confidence of the american people in this administration. Personally, I think it is purely in retaliation for resistance to UHC. As such, it is in retaliation against the people the results of which I can only hope will converge in November 2010.

Hey Prof, work on that verbosity a little huh?
 
I think that those who have broken the law should be prosecuted. Cheney is one of those people. The memos that were released make this apparent. I'm curious why justice is not something people want on both sides. I know, you conservatives will tar and feather me, but it seems disingenuous after the whole Clinton thing to cry foul against people who have obviously broken the law.

Prof, please learn to post in paragraphs.
 
Killing everyone in the world but Americans would make America safer. Should we launch our nukes? No.

Morals are something that seem to fly over your head Prof.
 
saving little girls and their grammas is the apogee of goodness

killing them is bad

the dangers of second hand smoke are, shall we say, overblown
 
the prez has treated panetta like a poodle

after appointing the vet apparatchik to his postion, despite his complete lack of experience in the spy field, the president has sapped him at every turn

obama has infuriated the left by reversing himself on RENDITION, by failing to close GITMO, but mostly by surrendering on the public option

so he attempts to appease the piqued by spanking panetta purple

he's stood by as the cia's been called a cabal of prevaricators by the speakeress, the agents panetta was appointed to represent, to lead

the white house offered no help vs pelosi's palsied pronouncements, despite a stack of documents which unequivocally contradict her

obama promised after releasing classified documents in march, that would be the end of his assaults against langley

just this week, he yanked interrogation away from panetta's agency, creating some extra-legal panel under direct white house control

panetta's now clearly on record---you are compromising american security by your political manipulations, he apprises his prez

morale within the agency is assuredly shot, no will take a risk, why should he or she?

which all means that poor panetta can't SUCCEED in his job

what's a director to do?

cuss out higher ups

and/or quit

oh well

obama is the most INEPT politician at the national level america has ever produced

he's turned LEON PANETTA against him

Kimberley Strassel: The Fall Guy - WSJ.com
 
" The former vice president for months has demanded the CIA release materials to show the effectiveness of harsh tactics in enabling interrogators to get information used to thwart planned attacks. "

It's effective to kill a man if he plays his music too loud upstairs, but it doesn't make it legal!
 
too theoretical

america is more interested in results than abstractions

that is, you're right about killing the upstairs rocker

and you may even be as well concerning khalid sheikh mohammad

(tho i kinda doubt it)

but, either way, POLITICALLY it's a LOSER

outside moveon, it goes NOWHERE

indeed, it rather creates BACKLASH

put it this way---if obama really wanted to score this POINT, he needed to do it a long time ago

after all this VACILLATING, his purely political purpose becomes transparent

gosh, even in chatrooms, the ENTHUSIASM over this issue is GONE

once more, the prez misplayed it

listen

sorry
 
too theoretical

america is more interested in results than abstractions

that is, you're right about killing the upstairs rocker

and you may even be as well concerning khalid sheikh mohammad

(tho i kinda doubt it)

but, either way, POLITICALLY it's a LOSER

outside moveon, it goes NOWHERE

indeed, it rather creates BACKLASH

put it this way---if obama really wanted to score this POINT, he needed to do it a long time ago

after all this VACILLATING, his purely political purpose becomes transparent

gosh, even in chatrooms, the ENTHUSIASM over this issue is GONE

once more, the prez misplayed it

listen

sorry

Ok, "Ignore torture allegation, investigate blow jobs." The right should run on that platform in 2012.
 
that's absurd, jake

you obviously don't work for the gop

LOL!
 
I guess my argument (favoring an investigation) boils down to two points:

1. For those who believe that an investigation was already performed & no charges were brought, I'd remind you that said "Investigation" was performed by the very same administration that is accused of committing the crimes & is therefore meaningless. (we don't trust the accused defendant to perform the criminal investigation, of his own crimes... in this country)

2. For those who think it unpatriotic/wrong to investigate employees who may have committed heinous crimes, in our country's name.....Doesn't the same thinking excuse the worst criminal regimes of all time, for the very same reason? (ie Nazi's, North Koreans, Japanese atrocities in WWII, etc)

For Cheney to be railing against an investigation is no surprise since he will undoubtedly be named in any prosecution as at least a co-conspirator.
 
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I can't believe we are even debating over whether or not the issue at hand is debatable. Let them investigate. Unless, your scared of something.
 
if it's crooked for investigations to be in the hands of reds, it's crooked done by blues

cheney named---LOL!

someone hasn't spent 5 minutes, it appears, in washington

you sound like a cartoon

they won't even be able to get the flashlight

and don't forget---PANETTA disagrees with you

quite STRONGLY, in fact

enough so to QUIT

do you know who PANETTA's friends are, with whom he talks?

so does carville, by the way, serpent head, he disagrees with you

if matalin's husband is saying something like that, he's sure not speaking just for himself

look around

you know, brains, we're really talking past each other

you're talking about rights and wrongs

i'm talking about WINNING and LOSING

the prez is (as always) on the wrong side

political problems all over the place

sorry
 
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The thing that always amazes me is that the proponents of torture always say that if we stop torturing people that terrorists are going to kill tens of thousands of people and also win the war on terrorism.

Fear-mongering much?


The real reason Al-Queda hasn't attacked us since 9-11 is simple, thanks to the Bush Administration fear-mongering, we are still afraid of them, and we are willing to throw our morals out the window to not die at their hands. They know that attacking us won't be worth it. They won't try to attack us till we aren't afraid of them. So thank you Bush, not for torture, or Iraq, but for the true thing that made us safer, us being **** scared of Osama.
 
The thing that always amazes me is that the proponents of torture always say that if we stop torturing people that terrorists are going to kill tens of thousands of people and also win the war on terrorism.

Fear-mongering much?


The real reason Al-Queda hasn't attacked us since 9-11 is simple, thanks to the Bush Administration fear-mongering, we are still afraid of them, and we are willing to throw our morals out the window to not die at their hands. They know that attacking us won't be worth it. They won't try to attack us till we aren't afraid of them. So thank you Bush, not for torture, or Iraq, but for the true thing that made us safer, us being **** scared of Osama.

I would disagree with you in that I don't think Bush did anything but make another attack MORE LIKELY by creating thousands of more anti-U.S. suicide bombers who will eventually, unfortunately...... attack us again.
GW Bush made this country vastly less safe than it was b4 9/11/2001 & deserves most of the blame for that attack being successful, imo.
 
I would disagree with you in that I don't think Bush did anything but make another attack MORE LIKELY by creating thousands of more anti-U.S. suicide bombers who will eventually, unfortunately...... attack us again.
GW Bush made this country vastly less safe than it was b4 9/11/2001 & deserves most of the blame for that attack being successful, imo.

I think though that they will be taking more of a "revenge is a dish best served cold" attitude to attacking the US again. Bush did horribly make us unsafe by motivating our enemies, but they will have the dish cold, for more "effect".
 
The thing that always amazes me is that the proponents of torture always say that if we stop torturing people that terrorists are going to kill tens of thousands of people and also win the war on terrorism.

Fear-mongering much?


The real reason Al-Queda hasn't attacked us since 9-11 is simple, thanks to the Bush Administration fear-mongering, we are still afraid of them, and we are willing to throw our morals out the window to not die at their hands. They know that attacking us won't be worth it. They won't try to attack us till we aren't afraid of them. So thank you Bush, not for torture, or Iraq, but for the true thing that made us safer, us being **** scared of Osama.

proponents of torture---LOL!

and you're right, that panetta and mr carville

they really need to quit all the FEAR MONGERING
 
I think though that they will be taking more of a "revenge is a dish best served cold" attitude to attacking the US again. Bush did horribly make us unsafe by motivating our enemies, but they will have the dish cold, for more "effect".

I don't disagree with that. let's not forget, Al Quieda has their own time table. They waited 8 full years between their first WTC attack in 1993 & their final one on 9/11/2001,

For all those who wrongly claim GW Bush kept us safe, he was President almost a full year b4 the 9/11 attack & his incompetence (not heeding his own FBI's & CIA warnings) led to the deaths of over 3,000 innocent Americans & the loss of the WTC towers.
I'll bet a mediocre atty could win a "Wrongful Death" civil suit against GW.
 
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no one cares about bush anymore

obama's president

and he's blowing it

ask panetta

ask bluedogs

ask baucus

ask bill clinton

ask cbo

ask claire mccaskill

especially, ask claire mccaskill

she must just HATE him

sending her out there to get TORN TO SHREDS like that

bush is history

history has its place

carry on
 
I care about Bush....& won't be really happy until I have an autographed license plate made by him on my family room wall.;)


with all due respect, sir, no one cares about you

nor me

few care about bush, just historians and partisans

i understand

EVERYONE cares about obama

carry on
 
I care about Bush....& won't be really happy until I have an autographed license plate made by him on my family room wall.;)

Judging by the pic in your avatar, it would fit right in with the decor (along with a plastic, singing fish).

ZING!
 
too theoretical

america is more interested in results than abstractions

that is, you're right about killing the upstairs rocker

and you may even be as well concerning khalid sheikh mohammad

(tho i kinda doubt it)

but, either way, POLITICALLY it's a LOSER

outside moveon, it goes NOWHERE

indeed, it rather creates BACKLASH

put it this way---if obama really wanted to score this POINT, he needed to do it a long time ago

after all this VACILLATING, his purely political purpose becomes transparent

gosh, even in chatrooms, the ENTHUSIASM over this issue is GONE

once more, the prez misplayed it

listen

sorry

Prof. if you are aspiring to be a poet, these poems need some work. Plus you might get more feedback on the actual craft in a different forum. I, for one, can't give you too much advice on this endeavor. However, best of luck in your pursuit!!
 
Prof. if you are aspiring to be a poet, these poems need some work. Plus you might get more feedback on the actual craft in a different forum. I, for one, can't give you too much advice on this endeavor. However, best of luck in your pursuit!!

thanks, but i'm not here for feedback, i already know all this stuff
 
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