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"Win One For Teddy," Say Dems

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1. A shameless politicization of the DEATH of a still quite controversial figure nationally

2. Not many except pulsating partisans will draw much inspiration from the re-baptizing of "Obamacare" as the "Teddy Kennedy Memorial Socialized Medicine Act"

3. The mere suggestion, POLITICALLY, is indication of last ditch desperation

4. Very few of our SENIOR CITIZENS are going to switch sentiments about HR3200 because its name has been changed

5. Their genuine fears and concerns will NOT be allayed by "Remembering Teddy"

6. Instead, they're sure to see the INSULT in the effort

7. Re-designating the deal does not decrease our DEFICIT a dollar

8. Indeed, the White House itself declared just last Friday that national borrowing is TWO TRILLION dollars HIGHER than the administration has so far been willing to ADMIT

9. A new APPELLATION does not alter the APPEARANCE of America, made unmistakably manifest in hundreds of townhalls across the homeland

10. It won't change the president's plummeting polls, his wholesale lack of leadership, his rapidly increasing IRRELEVANCE

11. Unmodified remain the dispositions of bluedogs, governors, freshmen, the CBO

12. Health care reform, as currently contemplated, still FINES individuals caught breathing without insurance, exactly as driving is handled in California

13. It forces folks, therefore, to finagle for themselves that which they frankly can't afford in the first place, hardly the HELP they were promised or expected

14. Obamacare as presently composed bends the COST CURVE the wrong way---SIGNIFICANTLY, said Elmendorf of CBO

15. It includes cruel and crippling CUTS to MEDICARE and MEDICAID, seriously scaring our seniors, without whom NO political progress can ever be possible

16. It looks to END OF LIFE COSTS for sinister savings, again panicking our parents

17. The townhall attendees have shown themselves to be remarkably WELL INFORMED about exactly what's going on within the legislation

18. It taxes medical benefits, ala John McCain, which cost the slightly fossilized senator expansive support last Summer

19. It taxes 8% small businesses who can't afford to offer coverage for their crews, bound to bankrupt many in TIMES like THESE

20. It slaps a several thousand dollar "surcharge" on earners over 250G, couples over 350, a prodigious problem politically

21. It effectively expands coverage to ILLEGALS since the HELLER AMENDMENT, legislation's only viable ENFORCEMENT, via E-VERIFY, was voted down in Rangel's Ways and Means, July 17

22. It changes the public funding of ABORTION, bluedog bugaboo, a still RED HOT topic in the Senate

23. The IRONY is this---THE LION, Senator Kennedy himself, picture of PRAGMATISM and COMPROMISE, would NEVER have adopted this universalist, one-size-fits-all approach employed by our IDIOT IN CHIEF

24. No, the would-be Eponymous Senator would instead have tried for and GOTTEN what was within reach---pre existing conditions, portability, the option to purchase coverage across state lines

25. The moral, however, is---why would anyone consider that this incarnation of controversy could accomplish from the crypt that which he could never carry thru when kicking?

Dems Pushing for Health Care Reform Say 'Win One for Teddy' - ABC News

Democrats are hoping that the memory of Sen. Ted Kennedy will revive the Democratic Party's flagging push for health care reform.

You've heard of 'win one for the Gipper'? There is going to be an atmosphere of 'win one for Teddy,'" Ralph G. Neas, the CEO of the liberal National Coalition on Health Care, told ABC News.

Democrats are hoping that Kennedy's influence in death may be even stronger than it was when he was alive as they push for President Obama's top domestic priority. Democratic officials hope that invoking Kennedy's passion for the issue will counter slippage in support for health care reform.

"Ted Kennedy's dream of quality health care for all Americans will be made real this year because of his leadership and his inspiration," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in a statement.

Pelosi's sentiment was echoed by former vice president Al Gore who served with Kennedy in the Senate.

To infuse Kennedy into the health-care debate, Democrats are planning to affix the former senator's name to the health-care legislation that emerges from Congress.

The idea of naming the legislation for Kennedy has been quietly circulating for months but was given a new push today by Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., the only person who served with Kennedy for all his 47 years in the Senate.

"In his honor and as a tribute to his commitment to his ideals, let us stop the shouting and name calling and have a civilized debate on health care reform which I hope, when legislation has been signed into law, will bear his name for his commitment to insuring the health of every American," Byrd said.

Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., a member of the Senate Health, Education and Labor Pensions Committee chaired by Kennedy, has been the panel's point person on health-care reform in Kennedy's absence. Today Dodd said that he hopes Kennedy's death will revive a spirit of bipartisanship.


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WTF ! This post has the lenght of War and Peace butsince I will most likley never read either one in it's entirety.
 
I know what he is talking about and I think it is crap.

Stop trying to make that dead liberal lush some kind of hero. :roll:
 
oh, boy, are you missing out

WAR AND PEACE is the single greatest piece of fiction ever written

tolstoy is sheer GENIUS

he only wrote really the two major tomes (plus ivan ilyich, which i DON'T recommend---if you read ivan, you will NEVER stop contemplating YOUR OWN death)

tolstoy makes EVERYTHING come totally REAL

ivan DIES in 100 pages, and as he does, YOU do

life, death, birth, sorrow, suffering, sadness, joy, forgetfulness...

what it FEELS LIKE to be BLOWN TO BITS

the CONSCIOUSNESS of it all

just for example

and he's an absolute BLAST, is the count

(personally, he was a jerk, and kinda nuts)

SUPREMELY entertaining writer, however

page TURNER

such a SHAME, my friend, such an UTTER loss

that you've never read W&P

The profoundly prepared Prof has perused the masterpiece in its comprehensiveness triply

that is, three times

and each time i LOVED IT the more

only if you're young, friend---it's a MUST read

if you're old, it's perhaps too late, i offer most respectfully

TOLSTOY IS THE GREATEST WRITER OF FICTION IN THE HISTORY OF LANGUAGE

he's super super FUN

100 times better than the BEST MOVIE you've ever seen

thanks, cliff

i've read it all, almost

just about everything, many times each, i'm very old

dostoevsky---THE DEVILS, alternately titled, THE POSSESSED

not as much FUN, outright

but IMAGES you'll NEVER get outta your head

READ!

victor hugo!

his hunchback!

street life of paris, 1480's---feels like berkeley in the 60's

while the spider king, louis 11, bangs his head on the closeted walls of his alchemy cell

cliff
 
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First off, Prof, please stop posting like that. It freak'n hurts the eyes.

Second, you have to be kidding me. Kennedy fought his whole life for the passage of UHC. This is the closest we have been and it would honor him to pass it with a public option.
 
WTF ! This post has the lenght of War and Peace butsince I will most likley never read either one in it's entirety.

The Prof marches to his own drummer, that's for sure.

He's got this long rambling list of what I guess are his golden talking points. Some sound oddly familiar, many are retreads from his other posts. What cracks me us is how they are all over place--I mean, try to follow him from one to the next. He starts off talking about Kennedy then around #3 or 4 he jumps the shark, the rail, and who knows what else...

Then comes the article that, I guess, inspired his grand rant list.

Question: why post your opinion or response to an article BEFORE the actual article.

Prof--no one knows what you're talking about or referring to when you do things back-asswards.

Try this: Post an article, THEN give us your 'thoughts'. Keep in mind that taking a sentence from the article and rewording is not really an original though. Neither is repeating what you heard on TV or read in Politico. Make a friggin' effort why don't you, to site your sources.:roll:
 
First off, Prof, please stop posting like that. It freak'n hurts the eyes.

Second, you have to be kidding me. Kennedy fought his whole life for the passage of UHC. This is the closest we have been and it would honor him to pass it with a public option.
And by "honoring him", we would be destroying the economy to a point where it stands no hope of ever recovering (as if there's a chance that we'll ever get out from under all this debt anyway).
 
And by "honoring him", we would be destroying the economy to a point where it stands no hope of ever recovering (as if there's a chance that we'll ever get out from under all this debt anyway).

Is this a fact or your opinion of what might happen?
 
And by "honoring him", we would be destroying the economy to a point where it stands no hope of ever recovering (as if there's a chance that we'll ever get out from under all this debt anyway).

Destroying the economy??...Isn't that the job of the GOP? (& they were damn good at it too!!)

Ah.....for the good old days again.
 

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Destroying the economy??...Isn't that the job of the GOP? (& they were damn good at it too!!)

Ah.....for the good old days again.

And, what have the Dems done to boost the economy? Let me rephrase that, what have they done to boost the economy, that has actually worked?
 
insuperable problems confronting obamacare:

1. it fines individuals who don't insure themselves

2. it forces folks to purchase that which they can't afford

3. it bends the cost curve the wrong way

4. it covers illegals, per the failure of heller

5. it funds abortion

6. it cuts medicare and medicaid

7. it looks to end of life costs for scary savings

8. it taxes benefits

9. it taxes business 8%

10. it taxes "the rich" at 250G, 350 for couples

11. the president's personal lack of comprehension of the issues

12. the bluedogs in the house

13. the freshmen in the house

14. the governors of almost every state, including MANY very prominent blues, such as bill richardson, christine gregoire...

15. at least 20 blue senators, huge names like bayh, nelson, nelson, dorgan, difi, conrad, baucus, lincoln, landrieu, feingold, mccaskill...

16. cbo

17. the TWO TRILLION dollar readjustment made by the white house last friday

18. the president's polls

19. the posture of the electorate, as exhibited at 100 town halls

20. arithmetic, gravity and physics

it will NEVER make it to the floor of senate

it is now DOUBTFUL it will even reach pelosi's carpet, too embarrassing

if it did, it would be only to appease the lefties like waters and woolsey

sorry

carry on, younguns
 
Read the headlines.

These headlines?

White House: Budget Deficit Will be $2 Trillion Higher than Projected

ABC News' Karen Travers reports:

As was reported last week, the Obama administration announced today that it has revised its 10-year cumulative budget deficit projection to around $9.051 trillion, up from its February projection of $7.1 trillion.
...
Romer also said the administration predicts the unemployment numbers will peak in the fourth quarter of 2009 and first quarter of 2010 and will hit 10 percent “for some months or some quarters” in that time period. She said the annual average of the unemployment rate for 2009 will be 9.3 percent and 9.8 percent in 2010.
 
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You're buying the bogus headlines? Really?

Yeah....Like it or not.....Since Obama has been in power the economic sky isn't falling anymore. Most economists agree it's improving. (bad news for your side but great news for America!)
 
Yeah....Like it or not.....Since Obama has been in power the economic sky isn't falling anymore. Most economists agree it's improving. (bad news for your side but great news for America!)

Really? Because I'm seeing unemployment numbers still rising. I'm still remembering all that money we threw at GM and Chrysler to prevent them from going into bankruptcy, and yet they did anyway. How much money was that again? When you look around at the news and look at all angles, it isn't always going to fit your agenda or partisan thinking process.
 
Yeah....Like it or not.....Since Obama has been in power the economic sky isn't falling anymore. Most economists agree it's improving. (bad news for your side but great news for America!)

Seriously Devil, why would you say that? Are republicans not effected by a bad economy? Do you really believe we all sit in leather wing back chairs smoking cuban cigars and laughing at the little schmucks out of work?

I am most impacted by the real estate industry, and IMO as long as prices are still falling and inventory still sits there, the economy is NOT improving. And no, that doesn't make me happy. I don't care who the president is, I want things to get better.
 
Really? Because I'm seeing unemployment numbers still rising. I'm still remembering all that money we threw at GM and Chrysler to prevent them from going into bankruptcy, and yet they did anyway. How much money was that again? When you look around at the news and look at all angles, it isn't always going to fit your agenda or partisan thinking process.

No matter how hard you pray for this country to fail, almost all economists see it improving. Keep praying though.;)
 
No matter how hard you pray for this country to fail, almost all economists see it improving. Keep praying though.;)

Please prove that P/N is praying for the country to fail.
 
Seriously Devil, why would you say that? Are republicans not effected by a bad economy? Do you really believe we all sit in leather wing back chairs smoking cuban cigars and laughing at the little schmucks out of work?

I am most impacted by the real estate industry, and IMO as long as prices are still falling and inventory still sits there, the economy is NOT improving. And no, that doesn't make me happy. I don't care who the president is, I want things to get better.

Because what I hear on the news is a slow but steady improvemtn in real estate prices & sales, auto sales, etc.
Many economists think we are now out of even a recession, let alone still on the verge of another great depression.

Unemployment changes are usually the slowest indicators.
 
No matter how hard you pray for this country to fail, almost all economists see it improving. Keep praying though.;)
You know first off, you don't know that P/N is praying for that. Secondly, what makes you think God would grant such a request?
 
You know first off, you don't know that P/N is praying for that. Secondly, what makes you think God would grant such a request?

A little hyperbole......You guys really need to lighten up & stop taking yourselves so seriously.:)

(we certainly don't take you seriously!):lol:
 
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