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Rep. Jenkins: GOP looking for "great white hope"

Laila said:
A few links wouldn't hurt you know ....
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I'm not going to do your homework for you.

A simple google search will yield abundant results on the subject.
 
Laila said:
What history is this?
Does anyone know a period where the word 'Communist' was used as a substitute for 'Nigger' .... anyone?
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It wasn't. He's doing what a lot of New Black Panthers do. They ignore the fact that the black civil rights movement came to full circle at the height of the Cold War. When we were engaged in Vietnam, the Angolan Civil War other significant conflicts in Asia and Africa it was perfectly normal to use the words 'Communist' and 'Socialist' as euphemism regardless of your race. Just 10 years before McCarthy had led a witch hunt on American liberals by wrongfully labeling thousands as communists regardless of whether or not they were.
 
Hatuey said:
He's doing what a lot of New Black Panthers do. They ignore the fact that the black civil rights movement came to full circle at the height of the Cold War. When we were engaged in Vietnam, the Angolan Civil War other significant conflicts in Asia and Africa it was perfectly normal to use the words 'Communist' and 'Socialist' as euphemism regardless of your race. Just 10 years before McCarthy had led a witch hunt on American liberals by wrongfully labeling thousands as communists regardless of whether or not they were.
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Complete and total nonsense.
 
The_Limt said:
And another poster who has failed to read the entirety of this thread makes another unjustified opinion.
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What you apparently do not understand or just purposly ignore is that there is not basis for calling President Obama's policies socialist since they do not meet the definition of economic socialist policies. I do believe that calling President Obama a "soclialist" is a code word and I will go back to the campaign for an example. Sometime during the of one of the presidentials debates there was a picture in the media of a house in the South somewhere that had Palin posters festooned all over but there was a hand written sign that said something such as " vote for xxxxxx a reeal American not Obama the "SOCIALEST" . Yes the idiots spelled socialist the way that they pronounce it , "socialest". Yes they were rednecks and yes I believe that they were racists.

yes there are those who are just plain ignorant and really think that President Obama is a "socialist" but that term is just coming up to often to be coming from people who actually know what a socialist is.
 
Zyphlin said:
Then please, document this record. Lets see some credible links.

I'd love to see some things PROVING that people calling a black politician a "communist", "Socialist", or something of the like is unequivically them actually secretly calling them a "nigger"
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I'm not going to do your homework for you.
 
American said:
Actually he caused those bus drivers to desert their jobs and leave New Orleans residents strainded in a stinky stadium and on rooftops.
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And, blew up the levees.
 
Ikari said:
Your opinion hardly matters in the face of facts and reality. As I said, claiming that those who call Obama socialist or communist or fascist mean to call him the N word is stupid.
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I never said everyone who calls Obama is a socialist or fascist means to call him a N word. You said that, and once again, are falsely attributing it to me.

I cannot be more clear as I have stated many times it is a judgment call to make upon the more vocal elements of the population.

You have a problem with it, not me.
 
The_Limt said:
I'm not going to do your homework for you.
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I always love this predictable line. You presented the argument. The onus is on you to support it. That would be doing your homework.
 
Dav said:
I've encountered this argument from you in another thread.

"Did you read the article?"

"Yes, I did."

"I don't believe you."

Your debate skills are... lacking....
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That's SOP for elitist Libbos. We're all supposed to just shut-up and believe what they say, just because they said it and they're all smarter than the rest of us.
 
Alright, you REPEATEDLY through the first two pages framed it that those calling him a fascist, socilaist, and communist are really calling him a nigger in secret.

Then, when called on that, you go "No no no, I didn't say EVERYONE that says it".

So please, how about this.

What general percentage do you think of those that call him a socilaist or a communist or a fascist or a nazi are "really" meaning he's a nigger? How much of this group do you think it is?

And, further on that, what quantifiable things actually determine if someone is saying it because they really think he's a socialist or because they really want to call him a nigger? Or are we just supposed to take your OPINION of it as some kind of credible knowledgable source based on ZERO FACTS that you've chosen to present?
 
The_Limt said:
You have a problem with it, not me.
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And I said it's stupid. You're the one with the problem, you're getting pissed off because people are saying that calling Obama a socialist or whatever is the same as calling him the N word is stupid and not true. You keep trying to say it's not your point, but it is. Maybe just maybe it isn't everyone else in this thread who is confused by your argument; maybe you made a muddled and unclear argument based on assumption and personal bias. You're saying that the more "vocal" population means to call Obama the N word when they use socialist or whatever. I say that's stupid and dishonest and a cheap way to avoid debate.
 
apdst said:
That's SOP for elitist Libbos. We're all supposed to just shut-up and believe what they say, just because they said it and they're all smarter than the rest of us.
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You realize there are Idiot Con's who also do the same ignorant thing of saying shut-up and believe what I say, just because I say it, because I'm smarter than you.

This isn't a liberal conservative thing, its a full of themselves poor debater thing.
 
F107HyperSabr said:
What you apparently do not understand or just purposly ignore is that there is not basis for calling President Obama's policies socialist since they do not meet the definition of economic socialist policies. I do believe that calling President Obama a "soclialist" is a code word and I will go back to the campaign for an example. Sometime during the of one of the presidentials debates there was a picture in the media of a house in the South somewhere that had Palin posters festooned all over but there was a hand written sign that said something such as " vote for xxxxxx a reeal American not Obama the "SOCIALEST" . Yes the idiots spelled socialist the way that they pronounce it , "socialest". Yes they were rednecks and yes I believe that they were racists.

yes there are those who are just plain ignorant and really think that President Obama is a "socialist" but that term is just coming up to often to be coming from people who actually know what a socialist is.
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Of course it is code langauge. It is beyond obvious and fools no one with an inkling for politics, and their eye on the ball.

During the campaign, Obama was "palling around with terrorists." Code words for he is a secret muslim out to destroy America.

I can go on and on.

Shall I?
 
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Zyphlin said:
You realize there are Idiot Con's who also do the same ignorant thing of saying shut-up and believe what I say, just because I say it, because I'm smarter than you.

This isn't a liberal conservative thing, its a full of themselves poor debater thing.
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Yeah, but not near as many.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Your argument is ridiculous. That's the problem most people have with it. Maybe your well-connected friends can help you fabricate a better one.
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Not ridiculous at all.

In fact, it is quite obvious.
 
apdst said:
Yeah, but not near as many.
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Care to provide proof for that in some kind of quantifiable way or am I supposed to just take your opinion as credible because you say its so and you're so knowledgable and smart about it? ;)
 
The_Limt said:
Not ridiculous at all.

In fact, it is quite obvious.
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Yes. So obvious that you have....

Whites, Blacks, Muslims, Christians, Liberals, conservatives, centrists, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians ALL Disagreeing with you.

let me guess, its because they're all secretly black and muslim hating hyper partisan conservative idiots.

:roll:
 
The_Limt said:
Of course it is code langauge. It is beyond obvious and fools no one with an inkling for politics, and their eye on the ball.

During the campaign, Obama was "palling around with terrorists." Code words for he is a secret muslim out to destroy America.

I can go on and on.

Shall I?
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Or, cigar is just a cigar and "paling around with terrorists" meant "hanging out with Bill Ayers, a terrorist". :shrug:

But yeah, do go on. This is...morbidly fascinating.
 
jallman said:
I always love this predictable line. You presented the argument. The onus is on you to support it. That would be doing your homework.
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It is so obvious that code language in politics exists I do not need to prove anything with links.

It is a judgement call to make, and one I will make when called upon to make it.

As for civil rights history and the use of code language, well it is in the record, and yes, predictable as it is, Im not going to do your homework for you.

Educating you is not my job.

Either you believe me, or you do not.

You can check the record and find out for yourself.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Care to provide proof for that in some kind of quantifiable way or am I supposed to just take your opinion as credible because you say its so and you're so knowledgable and smart about it? ;)
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How about you show us some numbers, instead of retreating to the, "prove it", cave? You made the claim.
 
The_Limt said:
It is so obvious that code language in politics exists I do not need to prove anything with links.
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You are on a politics forum.
You should provide proof for your assertions and wild claims.

I'll be nice. I'll even accept a wiki link.
 
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