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Rep. Jenkins: GOP looking for "great white hope"

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I have been posting all through the thread

So to make things clear.
People can attack Bush and it is fine, but with Obama it must be racism?

Again, you have failed to read my posts in this thread.

I do not know how much clearer I can be.

So I will, this one time, subsidize laziness.

A clue: Post #59.
 
I've encountered this argument from you in another thread.

"Did you read the article?"

"Yes, I did."

"I don't believe you."

Your debate skills are... lacking....

Hahahaha. I'm starting to like you.
 
Laila, Hautey...you all really need to stop.

I mean, its absolutely positively clear to everyone here what you're doing.

You're defending those criticizing Obama as not necessarily automatically being racists.

This is of course just a secret and code way for you to call Obama a Nigger. Why do you two hate black people so much?

;)
 
I've encountered this argument from you in another thread.

"Did you read the article?"

"Yes, I did."

"I don't believe you."

Your debate skills are... lacking....

Very interesting that you still don't get it.

Mr. Chapman was trying desperately to change the metrics in which IMR is measured.

He failed, miserably.
 
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I'm confused, whose this Shrub character? Did we have a plant of some sort voted into the presidency? Did the Knights that say Ni have something to do with this?

Please, I'm a bit lost. Who is this "Shrub" gentleman?

Well I guess that we are even in our not knowing who the other is refering to since I have no idea what "Knights that say Ni " means. Yet since I am a very cooperative person by nature I will give you a clue and I do not do this for just anyone but you are basically a reasonable civil guy so I will help you out. Think about a diminuative version of a bush. It's conceptual not visual so some people get it right a way others work on it for a while. I am sure that you got the deal since you are a urbane intelligent guy. ;)
 
Laila, Hautey...you all really need to stop.

I mean, its absolutely positively clear to everyone here what you're doing.

You're defending those criticizing Obama as not necessarily automatically being racists.

This is of course just a secret and code way for you to call Obama a Nigger. Why do you two hate black people so much?

;)

I love being half white and half black. My credit is awesome and so is my penis size. Yay for interracial relationships!
 
Calling Obama a socialist or whatever is not the same as calling him the N word. That's ridiculous. Quit playing the race card.
 
Laila, Hautey...you all really need to stop.

I mean, its absolutely positively clear to everyone here what you're doing.

You're defending those criticizing Obama as not necessarily automatically being racists.

This is of course just a secret and code way for you to call Obama a Nigger. Why do you two hate black people so much?

;)

:rofl

What can i say?
I am a self hating black person.
 
Calling Obama a communist instead of a nigger is pretty stupid. I mean I don't know how racist people would go about making that sort of decision. But I'm sure it would be something like :

David Duke : Alright guys. We can't call him a nigger anymore. I know. I know! Trust me. I know. We need to come up with something that we'd call a leftist anyways. Oh I know! Communist! Nobody would ever think of calling a liberal a communist! YEAH! That's it. From now on instead of calling Obama a nigger. We'll call him a commie!
 
Calling Obama a socialist or whatever is not the same as calling him the N word. That's ridiculous. Quit playing the race card.

You're right it is not, for the most part.

It is a judgement call to make, and I have made it with some of the more vocal elements of the population.

It is my call to make, not yours.
 
You're right it is not, for the most part.

It is a judgement call to make, and I have made it with some of the more vocal elements of the population.

It is my call to make, not yours.

I'm not saying it's not your call, I'm saying it's stupid to equate the two.
 
Calling Obama a communist instead of a nigger is pretty stupid. I mean I don't know how racist people would go about making that sort of decision. But I'm sure it would be something like :

David Duke : Alright guys. We can't call him a nigger anymore. I know. I know! Trust me. I know. We need to come up with something that we'd call a leftist anyways. Oh I know! Communist! Nobody would ever think of calling a liberal a communist! YEAH! That's it. From now on instead of calling Obama a nigger. We'll call him a commie!

Always interesting to encounter a poster who fails desperately in familiarizing themselves with the history of labeling black civil rights leaders, and black politicians with code language words such as "communist," "socialist," and "fascist."

It is nothing new.

Like I said, recycled garbage.
 
Well I guess that we are even in our not knowing who the other is refering to since I have no idea what "Knights that say Ni " means.

KnightsWhoSayNi.jpg


Monty Python and the Holy Grail. They're demands were to Bring Them.........A SHRUBBERY

Yet since I am a very cooperative person by nature I will give you a clue and I do not do this for just anyone but you are basically a reasonable civil guy so I will help you out. Think about a diminuative version of a bush. It's conceptual not visual so some people get it right a way others work on it for a while. I am sure that you got the deal since you are a urbane intelligent guy. ;)

Oh.

OHHHHH.

So it was a childish and ridiculous name calling of a President for no other reason than to try to degrade, something akin to what you see 3rd graders do when they'd call a classmate named "Bart" fart or when a kid with the last name of "morehead" as "Dumbhead".

I get it now.

Wow, phew. My bad there. Been a while since I was back in Elementry School. ;)

Seriously, what's the point in that? Its no better...actually worse because its just degrading and not at least trying to prove a political point....as CelticLords idiotic constant "Dear Leader". You sit here saying that people who dare to compare Obama to a socialist are really just horrible bigoted racists that are wanting to call him a nigger, yet you're going to sit there and act like a 3rd grader calling a former President "Shrub" for no other reason than to be derogatory and insulting. It diminishes your entire point and your standing as someone actually worth discussing anything with, as it shows you're more concerned with degrading and insulting the other side than having an actual conversation based on facts, reasoned opinions, and principles.
 
I'm not saying it's not your call, I'm saying it's stupid to equate the two.

History stubbornly disagrees with your claim.

In fact, the two have been equated, countless times in different decades.

Your opinion hardly matters in the face of the public record.
 
Always interesting to encounter a poster who fails desperately in familiarizing themselves with the history of labeling black civil rights leaders, and black politicians with code language words such as "communist," "socialist," and "fascist."

Did you just say I don't know my black civil rights history? Please tell me you didn't?
 
You're right it is not, for the most part.

It is a judgement call to make, and I have made it with some of the more vocal elements of the population.

It is my call to make, not yours.

What record? You keep talking about some historical record. Can you show us some kind of actual proof...and I mean actual proof not just you stating something and expecting us to take your word for it cause you've shown in short order you're not worthy of that benefit of the doubt....that people have been called communists or socialists or fascists and its unquestionablly really meaning "nigger"?

The sad pathetic thing about this is that if you came in here and simply complained about idiots calling Obama a nazi, or calling him a communist, or something like that I'd actually have agreed with you. Its as idiotic to do that with Obama as it was to call Bush a Nazi or a Fascist.

However, to say a sizable majority of those saying it are doing it to "secretly call him a nigger" is baseless, useless, unfounded, unverifable, assumption backed opinion. An opinion that, frankly, based on the fact few here actually have any history with you to know the quality of your opinions save for what you've posted thus far, has absolutely no credibility to make people actually care to take your opinion as worth while.
 
History stubbornly disagrees with your claim.

In fact, the two have been equated, countless times in different decades.

Your opinion hardly matters in the face of the public record.

What history is this?
Does anyone know a period where the word 'Communist' was used as a substitute for 'Nigger' .... anyone?
 
You sit here saying that people who dare to compare Obama to a socialist are really just horrible bigoted racists that are wanting to call him a nigger,.



Most people do not mean to call him a "N" word.

But for the more vocal and crazy elements...absolutely.

It is a judgement call.

Code language for civil rights leaders and minority politicians is nothing new.

The record is more than clear.
 
What history is this?
Does anyone know a period where the word 'Communist' was used as a substitute for 'Nigger' .... anyone?

The civil rights era.

Plenty of books have been published on this very subject.
 
Most people do not mean to call him a "N" word.

But for the more vocal and crazy elements...absolutely.

It is a judgement call.

Code language for civil rights leaders and minority politicians is nothing new.

The record is more than clear.

Then please, document this record. Lets see some credible links.

I'd love to see some things PROVING that people calling a black politician a "communist", "Socialist", or something of the like is unequivically them actually secretly calling them a "nigger"
 
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History stubbornly disagrees with your claim.

In fact, the two have been equated, countless times in different decades.

Your opinion hardly matters in the face of the public record.

Past isn't present. In the past people may have been called socialist or commies because they were socialist and commies. I think that maybe you're taking coincidence, like someone being black and being called socialist, as applying value to the coincidence when it is nothing more than coincidence.

Your opinion hardly matters in the face of facts and reality. As I said, claiming that those who call Obama socialist or communist or fascist mean to call him the N word is stupid. It's intellectually sloppy propaganda to try to create an ad hominem attack. It's stupid, and that's the plain truth about it.
 
However, to say a sizable majority of those saying .

The classic strawman fallacy.

I never said a "sizeable majority" of people are saying that.

You said that and falsely attributed it to me.

I was clear that code language is sometimes used by the more vocal elements of the population.

It is my decision to make on whom I choose to make this call, not yours.
 
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