kaya'08
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It is my view that society should be arranged to help man fulfill his needs and potential. The economy is very much part of society. Just about everyone believes similar, even you. Don't pretend you view of man is neutral nor that pretending people should simply be allowed to choose in an economy that is part of a society, full of power relationships and state intervention is neutral either.
It is not community work and please try and not be offensive to my religious views. Have you ever read Lord Northbourne? I recommend his work.
I have my views on society. It is pretty much excepted most people have higher needs, hence Maslow's place in psychology. Again don't pretend your view of man is neutral nor that our society is.
You have a naive view of the economy, as if it isn't very much part of society and as if there isn't very much a massive load of state intervention in our economy anyway. Corporations for instance are creatures of state fiat which separate ownership from control, in contradiction to common law ownership, and encourage irresponsibility and consolidation.
Do I have a right as a 12 year old to work done a mine-shaft and not go to school? Or is the fuller development of my intellectual faculties more important?
The economy is part of society. I believe in making it better for man in a libertarian and decentralist fashion like replacing most taxes with a locally collected land value tax and encouraging mutual banking.
If I followed your advise I pretty much had better give up on my social views and my wish to decentralise gov't as these are based partly on my views of man which are in contradiction to crass materialism. Perhaps I should just become a Thatcherite? Maybe there is no such thing as society? And why shouldn't I embrace the EU? Nations don't matter, the sooner we have world gov't the better.
Of course I'd still actually be trying to enact my view of man, it would just be the prevailing consumerist, corporate-capitalist one.
These moral boundaries are based on a view of man as is my idea of spirituality. If you believe in these rules then you go beyond the Thatcherism you are espousing.
I don't think Kirkpatrick Sale or Lewis Mumford could be said to be and Peter Kropotkin was an anarchist. There are many more.
Im not pretending anything. Our society SHOULD be neutral and is. The people should make there own choices. This ideology is great, for the fascist religious whack job who intends to create a society based off Christian fundamentals. It is religious baloney. Its no better than Iran's theocracy. Thanks for sharing it anyway.